Off-Topic Thread...

what year 951 was it, becuase the later models had like 280/290 horse, but the earlier models had like 230...


ohh and Jared, those pants would look better on my bedroom floor... :icon16:


j/k, is that your lady friend btw???
i think the 89's had 250hp, no?

i obviously didnt have the oppurtunity to drive an 89 because they are rare and VERY costly.

and those pants are very nice, my GF works at a woman's fitness center so i get to see those almost everyday.

^yea I made a mistake, it's like 250 or 260 at most.

the 89 951 may have been tested in that article that LLZ read now that i think about it. i bet the 89 would be an even run for the Z32TT either beating each other out by a very minimal margin.

It was an 89. They were comparing the last year of the 944 to the first year of the Z32. They said neither won the drag race or on the track. They were both just different. DAMN I wish I could find that article.

It was an 89. They were comparing the last year of the 944 to the first year of the Z32. They said neither won the drag race or on the track. They were both just different. DAMN I wish I could find that article.
yeah that sounds right...i would expect the porsche to handle better in tighter turns.

Ok...does anyone else have this happen?

Every once in a while (every couple DAYS), I stop getting my e-mail notifications. When I look at my in box more than once or twice a day and don't see any notifications from AF, I know either A) the site's down...again...or B) the thing's fucked up my subscriptions again.

Anyone else have this problem?

Ok...does anyone else have this happen?

Every once in a while (every couple DAYS), I stop getting my e-mail notifications. When I look at my in box more than once or twice a day and don't see any notifications from AF, I know either A) the site's down...again...or B) the thing's fucked up my subscriptions again.

Anyone else have this problem?
i havent had any problem like that...i get all my notifications. :dunno:

It's a pain in the ass. I'll notice I'm not getting any notifs so I'll come in here, make some replies on my own, then I'll start getting notifs again for a couple days and round and round we go...

i dont subscribe to any threads...i just check the forums regularly.

See...Freakaness replied and nooooooooooooooooooooooooooo notification for me. What the FUCK is up with this forum. Who knows what other threads have gotten replies that I don't even remember...that pisses me off.

^^^ hahahah.

http://www.thekansascitychannel. c...948/detail.html (http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/news/6605948/detail.html)

i dont know if any of you guys have heard this yet, but i thought it was pretty interesting because that plane flew out of my work. i remember the passengers walking by me and laughing and everything, its weird to think about that just a few hours ago, the same people that i saw laughing are now dead. and this is nothing new to me, a year ago from this month, a plane that took off out of my work crashed and killed 3-4 people (cant remember exact number). and right before they took off, i talked to the pilot and everything. thought i would share this, it kind of freaks me out.

That is really bizarre. Having any experience like that is gunna be odd....kinda eery....

man that'd be tooooootally weird...it'd freak me out for sure!

^^^ hahahah.

http://www.thekansascitychannel. c...948/detail.html (http://www.thekansascitychannel.com/news/6605948/detail.html)

i dont know if any of you guys have heard this yet, but i thought it was pretty interesting because that plane flew out of my work. i remember the passengers walking by me and laughing and everything, its weird to think about that just a few hours ago, the same people that i saw laughing are now dead. and this is nothing new to me, a year ago from this month, a plane that took off out of my work crashed and killed 3-4 people (cant remember exact number). and right before they took off, i talked to the pilot and everything. thought i would share this, it kind of freaks me out.
thats insane...that would definitely get me thinking.

Sick as it is to say, it's something you eventually get used to if you are around it long enough.

Sick as it is to say, it's something you eventually get used to if you are around it long enough.

yeah, i have a buddy that is a paramedic and he see's some pretty sick shit but it doesnt bother him anymore because he has seen so much sickening and cruel things in his life. he said the craziest thing to watch/listen to is showing up to a car accident where the car is on fire and all you can do is listen to the screams of the person that is burning alive...

i work with a guy that is a liscenced mortician that he does on the side and we are bored we all sit down and listen to stories of his. now he has some sick and twisted stories and that is definitely a job i could never do. totally insane the things he has seen and done...but he talks about it like it is nothing and it doesnt bother him. pretty freaky stuff....from people that have been dead for a while lifting stright up from the waist when he is trying to sow their lips and eyes shut. or someone flinching a toe while he is putting socks on them....absolutely freaky. horror movie type shit as he states.

HEY GEORGY! where at in california do you life? i might be coming to san diego between march 14th-16th.

HEY GEORGY! where at in california do you life? i might be coming to san diego between march 14th-16th.
San Diego is BEAUTIFUL!!! I absolutely loved it, do not bring a girlfriend if you plan to hang out on the beach. that would be a bad idea...:D

BTW: Georgy lives in northern cali.

also, LLZ: when you post, it asks you if you would like an "instant email notification". is your's set-up like that?

man, wtf, I get a $45 gift certificate to abercrombie (I don't even wear their clothing) from my aunt for christmas... well I go to redeem it and get a polo shirt... the damn thing with tax was $55... what kinda f'd stuff is that, I was expecting like 35 most... ohh and yea it was on sale :(

man, wtf, I get a $45 gift certificate to abercrombie (I don't even wear their clothing) from my aunt for christmas... well I go to redeem it and get a polo shirt... the damn thing with tax was $55... what kinda f'd stuff is that, I was expecting like 35 most... ohh and yea it was on sale :(
were you born yesterday?

i hate abercrombrie for that reason, they are way to fucking expensive. i mainly shop at aeropostale, and sometimes hollister.

I don't live in Nor.Cal! I dn't even live close to Cen.Cal! I do indeed live in So.Cal... I live about 70 miles East of LA in the Desert... I live in Applevalley of the 15 FWY going towards Las Vegas. Let me know when you are in town. maybe we can hang out and you can come to one of my meets. Hopefully my Z is put together by then.


Well, I passed on that 280Z since the guy never brought it around... He said the battery died and after a cuple of days of him procastinating (sp?) i just said forget about it. I'll find another someday. My Z32 is out of commission... i think i need new plugs... I hope. Won't start.

hell yeah george, we will meet up. i wont have my Z though, cuz i will most likley fly there. i will most likely fly in march 14th and fly out march 16th, and the 15th, we are going to the mudvayne/korn concert in san diego. but we might stay an extra day, we dont know yet, i will keep you updated.

i mainly shop at aeropostale, and sometimes hollister.

Ha ha ha...I bet you buy jeans that look dirty and hats that come pre-tattered...I pity you...:p

One of my favorite shirts is a black one that says in big, bold, white letters "fuck subtlety". Kinda amusing little play on words that gets a loooooooot of weird looks...lol.

I don't live in Nor.Cal! I dn't even live close to Cen.Cal! I do indeed live in So.Cal... I live about 70 miles East of LA in the Desert... I live in Applevalley of the 15 FWY going towards Las Vegas. Let me know when you are in town. maybe we can hang out and you can come to one of my meets. Hopefully my Z is put together by then.


Well, I passed on that 280Z since the guy never brought it around... He said the battery died and after a cuple of days of him procastinating (sp?) i just said forget about it. I'll find another someday. My Z32 is out of commission... i think i need new plugs... I hope. Won't start.
my bad...PTU been changed?


One of my favorite shirts is a black one that says in big, bold, white letters "fuck subtlety". Kinda amusing little play on words that gets a loooooooot of weird looks...lol.

i dont think thats the shirt. :rofl:

Ha ha ha...I bet you buy jeans that look dirty and hats that come pre-tattered...I pity you...:p

all i buy is shirts from there thank you very much. i get my jeans from kohls and i wear beanies.

yeah, i have a buddy that is a paramedic and he see's some pretty sick shit but it doesnt bother him anymore because he has seen so much sickening and cruel things in his life. he said the craziest thing to watch/listen to is showing up to a car accident where the car is on fire and all you can do is listen to the screams of the person that is burning alive...

that is some seriously fucked up stuff man... that shit would haunt me forever...

that is some seriously fucked up stuff man... that shit would haunt me forever...
yeah, its pretty nuts hearing some of the stories. that guy that is a paramedic has lived an amazing life and i dont know how he does it...its amazing to see how fucked up people can be and how people's life can be so fucked up. this guys life has been fucked up...i feel bas for him

PTU been changed?



Not since I had it... I pulled the plugs after I smelt gas and sure enough my plugs were kinda black. I'm going to change the plugs this weekend and hopefully she starts up. Otherwise it's gonaa be something like the PTU or whatever... sigh.

Buddy of mine was a nurse-y-type-of-thing for a while and he used to tell me some funny ass stories. "Man...people used to come in with all kinds of crazy shit stuck in their ass. I don't know what the hell is wrong with people." LOL! I mean nun-chucks!...Baseball bats!...Grapefruits!...Bottles of varying sizes! (I think I recollect a story involving a FUCKING TWO LITER!!!)...All kinds of weird stuff!

http://autos.aol.com/article?id=20060126172809990001

I sense a rebellion coming on. First thing that came to mind when I read that..."I bet I could break that."

Buddy of mine was a nurse-y-type-of-thing for a while and he used to tell me some funny ass stories. "Man...people used to come in with all kinds of crazy shit stuck in their ass. I don't know what the hell is wrong with people." LOL! I mean nun-chucks!...Baseball bats!...Grapefruits!...Bottles of varying sizes! (I think I recollect a story involving a FUCKING TWO LITER!!!)...All kinds of weird stuff!

thats just fucked up.

Buddy of mine was a nurse-y-type-of-thing for a while and he used to tell me some funny ass stories. "Man...people used to come in with all kinds of crazy shit stuck in their ass. I don't know what the hell is wrong with people." LOL! I mean nun-chucks!...Baseball bats!...Grapefruits!...Bottles of varying sizes! (I think I recollect a story involving a FUCKING TWO LITER!!!)...All kinds of weird stuff!
those are some sick fucking people...

^ as for the abercrombie thing, I never shop there and when I saw that it was on sale my friend who was with me said it should only be like 30 bucks, and she shops there all the time.

That GPS stuff is just f'd up, that makes me feel better that I don't drive a car with GPS.

The Canadians are testing out a system that combines onboard Global Positioning Satellite (GPS) technology with a digital speed limit map.

Leave it flippin' canadians to do something stupid like that. and who the hell would pass a law to not allow new cars to have a speedometer to read over 85mph. wtf?

bite me bitch

Hahahaha

LoL

You guys...

HAHAHAHAHA...I love you still, D...

You never noticed how most domestic cars from the 80s only registered...like...90? I used to wonder what the fuck was up with that. Buddy of mine had a little 89-or-so, heap-a-shit, lx, 4 banger mustang with an auto trans and it only registered 85, I think, even though it would do 90. It's like people thought "well...they won't go over 85 if they don't now how fast they're going once they go past that! Yea! That'll work!!" Dumb fucks.

I kinda wish they'd do that GPS thing just so I could figure out a way to fuck it up so it doesn't work any more. I already know how to disable the governor on the MkiV Supra TT...:naughty:...my uncle works for Toyota...

Well most cars in general from the 80s couldn't do more than 85ish so it really wasn't that much of an issue. If you wish to remember back to that terrible time, it was one of little mainstream interest in sports cars, the beginings of the the minivan/SUV upswing and infantile fuel injection technology being forced in by sadistic environmental standards. Big power output wasn't really a marketable trait back then.

Life is much better now.

Anyway, as for the GPS bit, it's a bit forward for now but things like it are coming. They are just disguised as useful bits, and to their credit often are. Like OnStar. It can summon roadside aid, remote start a car, perform limited diagnostics via satelite and track and remote shut down stolen vehicles. All handy things. However, all require a certain amount of freedom to be given up. Right now, I still have the choice and I choose a car I have total control over. But as the next generation of non-gas power cars and auto-drive corridors come in, we may find that we have no say in the matter.

That's how I see it, too: "What a great time to like older cars."

bite me bitch

LMAO!!!!

dude, you know i think Canada rocks. little too goody goody, but till seems like a peaceful place to live. :thumbsup:

I just want to hunt there...

Anyway, as for the GPS bit, it's a bit forward for now but things like it are coming. They are just disguised as useful bits, and to their credit often are. Like OnStar. It can summon roadside aid, remote start a car, perform limited diagnostics via satelite and track and remote shut down stolen vehicles. All handy things. However, all require a certain amount of freedom to be given up. Right now, I still have the choice and I choose a car I have total control over. But as the next generation of non-gas power cars and auto-drive corridors come in, we may find that we have no say in the matter.
i agree it will be a sad day...

they are actually really working on the auto-drive systems. they already have the auto-slow down feature in a couple jaguars that actually slow your car down when in cruise control when approaching another car or object. we have the systems that keep your car from moving over the lines in Lexus and Infiniti (problem more but thats all i know about).

its amazing technology but like you say...it will come to hinder is in the long run. there will be no running from the police which might not be bad...there will be no speeding...it will more than likely be like grade school where every class had to follow in a single file line when moving from place to place. there will be no passing...it will be like a zombie world in cars.

can you buy a high end GM and have the "OnStar" disabled or maybe not enable it? i dont even think you have to pay for it anymore, do you?

BROKE: you may want to do some research on turbos, i dont know where your at on your project or whatever but some pretty good new technology is available on TT.net. the GT28RS with the .64A/R trim has similar spool up to the 530BB's when used in conjunction with exhaust manifolds and headwork but it doesnt sacrifice flat lining on top end. its an amazing turbo, similar top end to the JWT 700BB with the .8? A/R but with the spool up of the HKS 2530's that are only capable of mid 500rwhp numbers. thought you might like to know since you already had exhaust manifolds in your planned build. you can find more info and dyno charts at TT.net. do a search for Bernie's post.

Man, I've fucking had it with stupid ass dealerships and private party morons not knowing jack shit about cars, and charging 3-4000 dollars over KBB value... yea I don't mind paying maybe 500 to 1000 bucks more but 3 is just fucking insane... I don't know if I'll ever have a new z at this rate...

Now I hate to say this too, but I hate it when people say "well the price is this way becuase I just put in a new clutch, and injectors blah blah blah and it ended up costing me 50 dollars and a blowjob." Yea, that's what you do when cars get fucked up... you fix them. That's normal for a used car, parts are gonna' go and they're gonna' have to be replaced, and when people act like the car's gonna' run forever like it came from the factory that pisses me off. I do understand that they're trying to get back some of the money they put into the car, but that's normal maintenance that comes with the car... That's why when kbb gives a value, they factor in all of that crap... WHY CAN'T I JUST GET A Z!!!???

Man, I've fucking had it with stupid ass dealerships and private party morons not knowing jack shit about cars, and charging 3-4000 dollars over KBB value... yea I don't mind paying maybe 500 to 1000 bucks more but 3 is just fucking insane... I don't know if I'll ever have a new z at this rate...

Now I hate to say this too, but I hate it when people say "well the price is this way becuase I just put in a new clutch, and injectors blah blah blah and it ended up costing me 50 dollars and a blowjob." Yea, that's what you do when cars get fucked up... you fix them. That's normal for a used car, parts are gonna' go and they're gonna' have to be replaced, and when people act like the car's gonna' run forever like it came from the factory that pisses me off. I do understand that they're trying to get back some of the money they put into the car, but that's normal maintenance that comes with the car... That's why when kbb gives a value, they factor in all of that crap... WHY CAN'T I JUST GET A Z!!!???

dude...PM me your Zip Code. i will find you a Z. you want a Z32 2+2, airbag equipped, 5-speed, correct?

any colors you dont like? mods or no mods? mileage? price?

^ Jason man, I really appreciate it, but I just found a z31T for 3 grand with 88K... if teh carfax comes up clean, and I like it when I check it out, than I might just buy it...
I'll PM ya anyways though.

What year Z31? Lemme know what's up with it, man!!!

Did I miss something? I thought you had a Silver Z31........

I still want that fucking '89!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP ME, SOMEONE!!!

Man, I've fucking had it with stupid ass dealerships and private party morons not knowing jack shit about cars, and charging 3-4000 dollars over KBB value... yea I don't mind paying maybe 500 to 1000 bucks more but 3 is just fucking insane... I don't know if I'll ever have a new z at this rate...

Now I hate to say this too, but I hate it when people say "well the price is this way becuase I just put in a new clutch, and injectors blah blah blah and it ended up costing me 50 dollars and a blowjob." Yea, that's what you do when cars get fucked up... you fix them. That's normal for a used car, parts are gonna' go and they're gonna' have to be replaced, and when people act like the car's gonna' run forever like it came from the factory that pisses me off. I do understand that they're trying to get back some of the money they put into the car, but that's normal maintenance that comes with the car... That's why when kbb gives a value, they factor in all of that crap... WHY CAN'T I JUST GET A Z!!!???

get used to it. KBB completly underestimate our cars. most Z's do sell for $2k-$3k over what KBB values it at. KBB dont know what they are talking about when it comes to Z's.

What year Z31? Lemme know what's up with it, man!!!

Did I miss something? I thought you had a Silver Z31........

I still want that fucking '89!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! HELP ME, SOMEONE!!!

yeah, you miss alot....

he got t-boned by some chick driver or something.

Check this out guys, this is my buddy Kurt's Twin Turbo 350Z... Spitting flames on the Dyno, of course. (http://videos.streetfire.net/Player.aspx?fileid=C0AEFC09-73A6-4794-8BD5-224D73AE3E43&p=0) :D

-Wes

BROKE: you may want to do some research on turbos, i dont know where your at on your project or whatever but some pretty good new technology is available on TT.net. the GT28RS with the .64A/R trim has similar spool up to the 530BB's when used in conjunction with exhaust manifolds and headwork but it doesnt sacrifice flat lining on top end. its an amazing turbo, similar top end to the JWT 700BB with the .8? A/R but with the spool up of the HKS 2530's that are only capable of mid 500rwhp numbers. thought you might like to know since you already had exhaust manifolds in your planned build. you can find more info and dyno charts at TT.net. do a search for Bernie's post.

Well to my knowledge, the 530BB doesn't really flat line, the GT28RS is just has more boost potential. I think Ash or Seb or someone did some math and figured the the GT28RS could get up to 30-32psi if you really spanked it hard. The most I've ever seen a 530 set dynoed at was 24 or 25. That and 700BB = GT28RS adapted to bolt on directly.

Anyway, I saw that post that you refer to and read through it all. I tried looking up the post history of Shawn300zTT GT28R MD becuase something he posted started a big debate back and forth a while ago over the GT28R-GT28RS issue. Essentially it boils down to the fact that the GT28RS is just a newer turbo with better design. Slightly altered trim and housing specs give it a bit of a spooling edge over the GT28R at the top end and it is listed as being capable of 27+ psi while the most anyone has seen on a GT28R was 23.5, if I remember correctly. However it does not have a significant spooling advantage, or really any at all (depending on who you talk to it may even lag behind the GT28R), until you get over 20 psi of boost. 20 psi with larger intercoolers and water/alcohol injection should be pretty safe on the 92 octane I can get at the pump. So at 20 psi with trick manifolds, 400+ cams and all the other parts lumped together, I'll hopefully be at around 500rwhp with barely any lag. Thats more than I'll ever need for street/light track use. And think of this. If the GT28RS can spool like a 530/GT28R with head work and/or manifolds then imagine the GT28R set on manifolds. The final selling point, for me anyway, is that you can source GT28Rs for at least $500 less, almost $1000 less at some places, than the GT28RS. Seems like the right choice for my project.

I'M IN HAWAII!!!!!!

Wow this place is awesome. Im staying in Wakiki atm and its brillient!! Pretty fucking pricey though.

The beaches here are insanely good. They water is so god damm clean! Its so strange to finally do/try/see all this American stuff ive heard so much about.

I tried Taco Bell the other nite and fuck that shit is foul. That sort of spray on cheese that the put on the nachos is feral. Not having that shit again. Jack in the box is fucking cheap though and not too bad either! $1.28 for a burger is gold!

oooo... ooo...ooooo.... I SAW AN ECLIPSE TODAY!!!!!!! YAY!!!!! I was so happy. Ive now seen 4 3rd gens and 2 2nd gens. They are fucking great loking cars. I ve seen a lot of Pontiacs too. Im quite partial to them too. shit cafe time about out.

ill keep you updated!!!

-Anthony

I tried Taco Bell the other nite and fuck that shit is foul. That sort of spray on cheese that the put on the nachos is feral. Not having that shit again. Jack in the box is fucking cheap though and not too bad either! $1.28 for a burger is gold!

Could have warned you about TacoBell. Tell you what, post a list of things you're thinking about eating/trying/sleeping with and we'll steer you in the right direction.

oooo... ooo...ooooo.... I SAW AN ECLIPSE TODAY!!!!!!! YAY!!!!! I was so happy. Ive now seen 4 3rd gens and 2 2nd gens. They are fucking great loking cars.

I see the TacoBell biohazard burrito has done some serious brain damage.

oooo... ooo...ooooo.... I SAW AN ECLIPSE TODAY!!!!!!! YAY!!!!! I was so happy. Ive now seen 4 3rd gens and 2 2nd gens. They are fucking great loking cars. I ve seen a lot of Pontiacs too. Im quite partial to them too. shit cafe time about out.

i cant believe you are excited to seing eclipse's, i hate seeing them stupid things. its even worst to be excited to see ponitac's, they are pieces of crap.

Come now Freak perhaps we go too far, such words are not needed, lest we be automotively racist.

Hahaha Yaggus, you feeling ok man? :lol:

-Wes

Well to my knowledge, the 530BB doesn't really flat line, the GT28RS is just has more boost potential. I think Ash or Seb or someone did some math and figured the the GT28RS could get up to 30-32psi if you really spanked it hard. The most I've ever seen a 530 set dynoed at was 24 or 25. That and 700BB = GT28RS adapted to bolt on directly.

Anyway, I saw that post that you refer to and read through it all. I tried looking up the post history of Shawn300zTT GT28R MD becuase something he posted started a big debate back and forth a while ago over the GT28R-GT28RS issue. Essentially it boils down to the fact that the GT28RS is just a newer turbo with better design. Slightly altered trim and housing specs give it a bit of a spooling edge over the GT28R at the top end and it is listed as being capable of 27+ psi while the most anyone has seen on a GT28R was 23.5, if I remember correctly. However it does not have a significant spooling advantage, or really any at all (depending on who you talk to it may even lag behind the GT28R), until you get over 20 psi of boost. 20 psi with larger intercoolers and water/alcohol injection should be pretty safe on the 92 octane I can get at the pump. So at 20 psi with trick manifolds, 400+ cams and all the other parts lumped together, I'll hopefully be at around 500rwhp with barely any lag. Thats more than I'll ever need for street/light track use. And think of this. If the GT28RS can spool like a 530/GT28R with head work and/or manifolds then imagine the GT28R set on manifolds. The final selling point, for me anyway, is that you can source GT28Rs for at least $500 less, almost $1000 less at some places, than the GT28RS. Seems like the right choice for my project.

sounds good, i was just making you aware if you werent already.

research and dyno sheets are shown by bernie in a post he compiled showing that the GT28RS with the .64 A/R w/ headwork and manis spools up at almost the exact same rates as the HKS GT2530's or the GT28R's without significant headwork or manis. yes this doesnt mean that the 2530's and 28r's will not spool up faster with the same headwork and manis. there is no doubt in my mind...but for me, with the higher top end capabilities and similar spool-up (which is damn good) it is a great turbo. and yes he GT28RS's re the same as 700BB from JWT and now you can specify from JWT if you want the .64 A/R or the much laggier .8? A/R.

anyways, good luck with your project broke. i wasnt trying to convince you of anything, just making you aware if you werent already and it seems you were. and yes, those GT28R's are damn impressive and i have seen sites selling them for $850 each. thats a bargain...

its even worst to be excited to see ponitac's, they are pieces of crap.
hey hey hey...i wouldnt go that far. their cars are quite impressive and alot more stylish than their GM counterpart. calling the GTO a piece of crap is like saying a C6 corvette is a piece of crap.

Yaggus, i am glad to see you are having fun. and i could have warned you about taco bell also. "taco john's" is 10 times better food but still not good.

I tried Taco Bell the other nite and fuck that shit is foul. That sort of spray on cheese that the put on the nachos is feral. Not having that shit again. Jack in the box is fucking cheap though and not too bad either! $1.28 for a burger is gold!

AH HA HAAAAAAAAAAAAAAAA HA HA HA...dude...that's fuckin hillarious! Taco Hell is definately pretty rough at times. It'll make ya shit good, though! lol

Jack in the Box is good, but they serve pure junk food. It's kinda like McDonald's with slightly better food.

Could have warned you about TacoBell. Tell you what, post a list of things you're thinking about eating/trying/sleeping with and we'll steer you in the right direction.

:rofl: LMFAO!!:rofl:

Sonic's is ok...

Steak'n'Shake is a 24 restaurant. Great burgers...