Off-Topic Thread...

Ugh... Ooooook. :rolleyes:

-Wes

Ugh... Ooooook. :rolleyes:

-Wes
can't argue with simple logic...

Hey... any of you guy have a stock fascia you want to donate to me? NA or TT... doesn't matter.

Hey... any of you guy have a stock fascia you want to donate to me? NA or TT... doesn't matter.

i have a N/A...

you have to come pick it up.

^ I'll pay for shipping? ^

Pretty please with a turbo on top?

^ I'll pay for shipping? ^

Pretty please with a turbo on top?

its cracked at the bottom but could easily be fixed. still want it?

If it's not a huge crack... then YEAH! It's gonna have to get painted anyway so it could be repaired by the shop.

yo i gots a ford zx3 n i wanna put a custom bumpa on 4 da sho comin up........will dis nA 3000z facial fit??/?

pease out yo.










... Ahem... Whore-Hey, what happened to your bumper? Didn't the bottom portion get knocked off or something?

-Wes

^ LoL ^

Yer Crazy. Ese!

Yeah... don't you remember? I cracked that fucker in two peices! Just getting tired of looking at like that. Plus the sleeper look will look cool for the meantime.

If it's not a huge crack... then YEAH! It's gonna have to get painted anyway so it could be repaired by the shop.

why not get a TT front bumper with a stillen III lip. that looks great together. the N/A bumper looks like garbage.

but if you still want it...i will see if i can find a box big enough or whatever i need to do. maybe just wrap it in plastic.

Nah! I still want it... just need something for the mean-time.

Maybe I'll get the GRACER or ESCORT fascia in a few...

this has nothing to do with anything, but i found it on another forum and thought you would like it.

apparently the turbo is from a boat of some kind.
http://www.bullseyepower.com/95mmsupra.wmv

:screwy:

Pretty crazy... Those JZA80s are pretty insane, a friend of mine had a '97 Automatic with a GT42, FMIC, and supporting modifications, and made 750whp or so on stock internals... That's some balls right there.

-Wes

yeah that's the thing about the honda's... they're way too f'n easy to make quick and cheap as hell when you want to... if they were rwd i would own one

Honda civic del sol PWNZ JOO... I'm pretty sure they're mid engine/RWD... wes, what's the deal on those???

Honda civic del sol PWNZ JOO... I'm pretty sure they're mid engine/RWD... wes, what's the deal on those???

wtf...go home!

wtf dude... front engine fwd... and they're fucking weak unless you swap something into them or turbo the little d series... a few came with a b16a3 vtec, but those were weaker than the ctr's b16's i believe...

anyway, yeah not rwd... just the s2k and nsx

No, they're FWD... However, take a peak at these projects. :evillol:

LS1 powered BB4 1994 Honda Prelude... This project is INSANE! (http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=1645997&page=1)

H22A4 Mid-Engine powered 1994 Acura Integra GSR... Not to mention, with Air Conditioning, Power Steering, Cruise Control, all daily comforts. The fabrication work here is amazing. I've had the chance to speak with this guy once at an Auto Cross, and man, he knows his Shit, haha. (http://honda-tech.com/zerothread?id=981613&page=1)

It's not hard to make a Honda RWD... Just a lot of fabrication work, and a lot of time.

-Wes

And don't underestimate the D-Series... My friend Louis has broken into the 11s on a stock D15B3 (One of the weakest D-Series ever produced)... Incredible driving skills, a VERY large Turbocharger, and VERY good tuning. He's had it running on 15psi, driving it daily, and racing it twice a week, for 3 months, and it's still running... I can't believe it either, but it's very true.

I think his last time at the track was 11.7... I can't imagine what he's going to run once he builds it, and cranks the boost up to 25psi. Should be 10s no problem... The little D-Series that could, hahaha.

-Wes

Here's a video of the H22 running in the GSR... (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v424/RaceCity_USA/?action=view&current=MVI_1097AVI.flv)

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v424/RaceCity_USA/P7030601.jpg

God... That looks so crazy.

-Wes

motherfucker



that is some serious fucking fab work... those guys are amazing

heh... too bad it sounds like ass

I was thinking the same thing. :rofl:

But yeah, those guys are crazy... It makes our little swaps and builds look like child's play.

-Wes

no kidding.. just finished the whole thread for the prelude... that's most definitely the highest level of fabrication i've seen from a backyard mechanic for sure...

fuck em all....wait till i get the funds and passion to build my 240Z. shits gonna get crazy! :evillol:

pfttt....hondas.

Spoken like a true Automotive Enthusiast, Jason. :rolleyes:

Just because it's a Honda, doesn't change the fact that it's amazing fabrication work. I saw a Dodge Neon with twin engines, busting everyone's Ass at the track... Just because it was a Neon, does that change the fact that it was an amazing car? No. It doesn't.

-Wes

fuck em all....wait till i get the funds and passion to build my 240Z. shits gonna get crazy! :evillol:

pfttt....hondas.


Passion comes before funds... I have no funds (for the moment), yet I still drive a 240z. :wink:

And I hate you for it. :)

There was one for sale in my town a few weeks ago... I went and looked at it anxously... Only to find the guy wanted $10,000 for it. I mean, it was in good shape, but not $10,000 good... Meh... I'll get one someday.

-Wes

Spoken like a true Automotive Enthusiast, Jason. :rolleyes:

Just because it's a Honda, doesn't change the fact that it's amazing fabrication work. I saw a Dodge Neon with twin engines, busting everyone's Ass at the track... Just because it was a Neon, does that change the fact that it was an amazing car? No. It doesn't.

-Wes

:lol: you take my deliberate honda bashing as gospel. wesley, i do respect the fabrication work and the guy is very good at it. he gets a thumbs up from me...hondas can be fast, this undoubtedly true. i respect hondas...everytime one pulls up next time i always pray that it isnt one that has a huge motor build under the hood and 99% of the time it ends up having a body kit half assed and intake.

i just dont have a passion for cars that werent made to do what people are building them for. do i respect what they can do...yes. am i enthusiastic about it? no...

Passion comes before funds... I have no funds (for the moment), yet I still drive a 240z. :wink:

well...thats how my Z32 is. i better not go on passion again until i get my head above sea level again as far as finances go.

my plan is to build an uber tyte jdm R33 GTR drivetrained widened fendered 240Z...yeah holmes. but yeah, you get the idea. huge fender flares, amazingly deep dished old school works, RB26DETT dreivtrain w/ AWD. should make for a nice snowmobile for winter. :D

:lol: you take my deliberate honda bashing as gospel. wesley, i do respect the fabrication work and the guy is very good at it. he gets a thumbs up from me...hondas can be fast, this undoubtedly true. i respect hondas...everytime one pulls up next time i always pray that it isnt one that has a huge motor build under the hood and 99% of the time it ends up having a body kit half assed and intake.

i just dont have a passion for cars that werent made to do what people are building them for. do i respect what they can do...yes. am i enthusiastic about it? no...

Got ya'... That's cool, it just sounded like you were bashing anything with an H on it, no matter how amazing it is.

Funny story though... My buddy and I were cruising around in his '99 Civic EX Coupe. H22 Engine, Pro-Speed Header, VERY fast car, the Type-R will stay right beside it though, haha. Silver, black lip, black housing headlights (It's a DIY thing, easy to do with Hondas) flat black 15" Rota Slipstreams, full suspension lower about 2 inches, really clean, not ricey.

Anyway, we were cruising around, and a Z28 Camaro comes flying up on us, and switches lanes real quick, trying to do a ricer flyby. Scott drops down to second and right away is side by side with him, I look over and see the driver of the Camaro break his neck looking over, in complete disbelief. Scott goes into third, and starts pulling on him hard, 3 car lengths. We let off and come up to the stop light. The Camaro driver puts down his window and yells "What the Hell is that thing?!" Scott leans over and says "Inconspicuous? Hahahaha" the Camaro driver then goes on to explain that he had never seen a Honda pull that hard, that quick. He gave us props for building a nice car, and drove away slowly. :rofl:

That's the most fun thing about driving beasted out Hondas... No on expects it.

Then again, I'd rather drive a sleek, beautiful RWD true sports car with 600whp that everyone expects to be fast... But that's for another time in life, haha.

-Wes

Then again, I'd rather drive a sleek, beautiful RWD true sports car with 600whp that everyone expects to be fast... But that's for another time in life, haha.

-Wes

my point exactly...:D

sorry about the misinfo on the del sol's, someone told me they were mid engine, rwd *bangs head*. Jason man, do you have any idea how much and AWD 240z would cost!???

ahhhh it couldn't be THAT bad, just need an r32 gtr front clip, then drop the entire front subframe into the z.. :p

The front end fabrication wouldn't be hard at all, the engine bay is huge, and there's plenty of room for custom mounts. I'm pretty sure there would have to be quite a bit of fabrication to get the frontal suspension/control arms to mount up. Some custom axels, and that would be about the extent of it. The wiring would simple, just swap the wiring from the Skyline into the 240Z, instead of slicing into the stock wiring, just run the Skyline's electronics.

If I had gangs of money, I'd probably give it a try.

-Wes

:lol:

Um guys, it's been done, but to get the awd system to fit you have to have the motor sit so far forward in the engine bay you have to have the radiator on the other side of the core support. And the AWD makes the front wheels stick out past the fenders.

I've seen it on one drag 240z. It looked horrid. Stick to RWD, it's simple.


I'll look up the picture, one of my friends has it I believe... I'll post it up.

you know, come to think of it i think i've seen that pic too, a while back it was tho

sorry about the misinfo on the del sol's, someone told me they were mid engine, rwd *bangs head*. Jason man, do you have any idea how much and AWD 240z would cost!???

pftt...money is the least of my concerns...

it shouldnt be that bad at all...just strip the 240Z down to basics and then weld in the whole GTR drivetrain/suspension/everything.

considering the way cars were built back in the 70's, welding in all the new subframes really shouldnt be that difficult of a task.

need to do more research on the subject. if the R32 isn't a unibody, it would make this project a breeze. but im almost positive it is...as were most cars from mid 80s on.

matty: im sure with a little more time it could be done correctly. my 240Z will have huge fender flares on it anyways so sticking out may not be that bad. we will see...i dont see how custom axles would not fix the widened front. maybe possibly, because it was a drag car they didnt care how it looked. i dont see it being that insane of a project...quality welder and some well thought out fabrication could make it work easy.

It's not the axel that decides width... It's the hub. The control arms extend the assembly out. It would take quite a bit of fabrication to tuck them back in.

But why not just get some wide wheels/tires in the back to match? That would look mean! :evillol:

-Wes

Or why not just buy a R32 GTR and save the hassle? I mean the amount of fabrication you're talking about would most likey require most of a R32 for donor parts.

It's not the axel that decides width... It's the hub. The control arms extend the assembly out. It would take quite a bit of fabrication to tuck them back in.

But why not just get some wide wheels/tires in the back to match? That would look mean! :evillol:

-Wes

i mean...the whole suspension is gonna be welded in anyways. i should be able to just weld the brackets in a little further. basically just re-do the entire inner fender.

we will see...this is definitely a later in life project. trust me...
Or why not just buy a R32 GTR and save the hassle? I mean the amount of fabrication you're talking about would most likey require most of a R32 for donor parts.

i mean...i am a little drunk right now, but even i know that, that would be way too easy and thus not a project. but yeah..S30>R32 when it comes to looks, lets be honest. :D

Hmm, I don't know... GT-R's are just sexy all around. I'd pimp a Skyline over a Z... in a perfect world, I'd have both.

move to canada, good friend, you could have both.. and at a reasonable price too... without the sinking ship economy as well ;)

move to canada, good friend, you could have both.. and at a reasonable price too... without the sinking ship economy as well ;)

HAHAHAHAHA

so true...

move to canada, good friend, you could have both.. and at a reasonable price too... without the sinking ship economy as well ;)

yeah, when the name of your ship is named George W, your bound to run into a few problems. its all ok... democrat will get elected next and he will spend his 8 years cleaning up Bush's mess, just to elect another republican to destroy it.

its the never ending cycle of the american way.

as for skylines...they arent the best looking cars, R33s being the best. in a perfect world i could have a skyline drivetrain in a Black 240Z. hence my project...:D

LOL @ "democrats will fix things".

This thread smells of a basic misunderstanding of politics and economics.

LOL @ "democrats will fix things".

This thread smells of a basic misunderstanding of politics and economics.

ok?

You can have Skylines here in California, there are quite a few here. Mostly R33's and a handful of R32's. Almost all the R34's are show cars only, some use them for track days but not much, mostly SEMA/HIN whores.

And lets not turn this into a political debate. We have a Politics forum (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=980) for that.

You can have Skylines here in California, there are quite a few here. Mostly R33's and a handful of R32's. Almost all the R34's are show cars only, some use them for track days but not much, mostly SEMA/HIN whores.

And lets not turn this into a political debate. We have a Politics forum (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/forumdisplay.php?f=980) for that.

guy that owns topspeed owns a R34 GTR with some major bucks sunk into it, but he drives his on a daily basis. bought it from someone in washington...

i would own an R33 if i had some extra cash laying around i suppose, but i still think Z's look better than skylines. :D

Skyline > Z


GT-R FTW!

:lol:

Sorry homie, but you may get yourself 500whp, but will you be able to reliably put it down to some use?

AWD GT-R FTW x 2!!!

If you refer to stock engine power capacity then consider Wagz running 744 rwhp, Zo making 643 rwhp, a whole shit load of Zs in the 500rwhp range, Greg Dupree running low tens for two years and Fitos Nicol making 688rwhp (with stock cams).

All on stock bottom ends and all still running today with the exception of Greg who did an engine build on his way to 9s.

And thats off the top of my head.

Consider also that at it's peak the lolskylame was pushing damn near twice the price of a Z and only a bit ahead on any test of performance.

The Skyline: The most overrated car to exist, EVER.

Skyline > Z


GT-R FTW!

:lol:

Sorry homie, but you may get yourself 500whp, but will you be able to reliably put it down to some use?

AWD GT-R FTW x 2!!!
i plan on my car being quite reliably actually. basic maitenance should take care of me for a few years to come. c'mon matty...what problems does the Z have? usually electrical problems due to heat after 100k miles of heat under the bonnet. my Z will basically have everything brand new under the bonnet so i dont plan on worrying too much. its all about the tune...

the Z is quite reliable when staying under 600rwhp...and even then it is usually quite reliable because they can only run that much power on race fuel.

plus ill take my power curve from my VG over an RB if want 500rwhp.

The Skyline: The most overrated car to exist, EVER.

2nd!

JZA80 too!

Nice cars... but c'mon!

You know I did forget about the Supra. That might knock the lolskylame down to the Second Most Overrated Car, EVER.

You know I did forget about the Supra. That might knock the lolskylame down to the Second Most Overrated Car, EVER.

yeah supra bumps the skyline down to number 2. people think the supra is the best at everything. its handling isnt that great, its heavy eventhough i never hear it called a heavy pig, it weighs in at 100lbs+ more than the "hefty" Z32....the only thing it really does well is dyno and drag. atleast the skyline can be an awesome competitor at anything you throw at it...

Jesus Christ Jason... I thought you were smarter than that. :rolleyes:

Hey, why not just kill all republicans and save America the headache.

-Wes

Jesus Christ Jason... I thought you were smarter than that. :rolleyes:

Hey, why not just kill all republicans and save America the headache.

-Wes

:lol: would if i could, but i cant so i wont!

but i guess...when i save up $1500 for a M&P issue M16, i suppose it could be a possible solution.

im sorry but, in my lifetime, nothing good has came from a republican being in presidency. atleast when a democrat was there we had a nice little scandal to point and laugh at. i also remember life being much better...can i blame this all on republicans, you bet your as i can...but i wont, because its not true. someone as small as us cant care and must live with it. we have very minimal say, as in, one vote every 4 years, in a very corrupt world. who knows what is really going on in the government...honestly.

You know I did forget about the Supra. That might knock the lolskylame down to the Second Most Overrated Car, EVER.

You say that, but when BMI tested the R32 GT-R against all the cars out at the time, including the Z32 TT it wiped the floor with them all.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-161835318145170246&q=R32+GTR
Over rated? I don't think so, they do actually perform... Over priced? In Japan, not really, it is after all Nissan's Flagship (used Skylines aren't all that expensive especially R32s ranging from $7200 to $10000 and R33s still run roughly $15000 to $25000, R34s go for $30000 to $70000 still). But here in the States they're WAY over priced. I agree with that.


Also... a lovely video with both cars... Z32 and R32 having fun on the highways of Japan.

http://youtube.com/watch?v=MDjWICGItDU&search=R32%20GTR

i can get a minty r32 for 15-20 grand... that's under 50k km, perfect interior, great paint, lightly modified, etc etc...

btw for a car to be overrated it has to be not amazing and one of the best made in its class ever... :rolleyes:

You say that, but when BMI tested the R32 GT-R against all the cars out at the time, including the Z32 TT it wiped the floor with them all.

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=-161835318145170246&q=R32+GTR

14.3 1/4 mile in a TT Z? Who did they have driving it? There is plenty of people that have gotten dead stock TTs into the mid-13s. Slip the clutch a bit in first so you don't spin the tires through the first sixty feet and there you go. Incompetence or bias, it's one of the two.

At the track the Z was in front and the lolskylame wasn't really making up ground on it until about the two minute mark when the Zs driver takes a right hander ridiculously wide and the lolskylame goes around on the inside. And frankly if you call getting beat by 1 1/2 seconds a "wiping of the floor" then your views on racing are very distorted.

Over rated?

Absofuckinlutely.

I don't think so, they do actually perform...

When did I say they didn't?

Over priced? In Japan, not really, it is after all Nissan's Flagship (used Skylines aren't all that expensive especially R32s ranging from $7200 to $10000 and R33s still run roughly $15000 to $25000, R34s go for $30000 to $70000 still). But here in the States they're WAY over priced. I agree with that.

Thank you for proving my point that lolskylames cost more than Zs even today.

btw for a car to be overrated it has to be not amazing and one of the best made in its class ever...

Incorrect. A car could legitmately be the best at everything and still be overrated.

i can't wait for you to get old man, you're going to be the most fucking bitter old man ever... right now you're just fucking bitter...