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Yaggus
10-22-2005, 08:39 AM
you know wes i think we've collectively agreed that if we had the power we'd ban you from the pzc forum lol
Hahahaha thats a bit harsh... revoke his modship maybe :p jj
im with delerious...guns are for losers that like to over power things that are defensless because it makes themselves feel like more of a man.
i am not a animal rights activist or anything but some shit shouldnt be done. and i dont want to hear about that whole, well you eat meat that is butchered and killed by someone else so whats the difference. i find it a big difference...
*Appaudes*
I dont condone hunting unless it it for a legitimate reason, like culling a pest. We shoot hundreds of kangaroos over here but thats cuz they have reached pest proportions in some of the farming sectors. Same goes for rabbits. Rabbits cause millions of dollars worth of damage each year to farmlands. In these circumstances, I think its ok to shoot them. But going out for the fun of killing animals, well, its just not for me. I really dont like the idea of game hunting... It doenst sit well with me.
Hahahaha thats a bit harsh... revoke his modship maybe :p jj
im with delerious...guns are for losers that like to over power things that are defensless because it makes themselves feel like more of a man.
i am not a animal rights activist or anything but some shit shouldnt be done. and i dont want to hear about that whole, well you eat meat that is butchered and killed by someone else so whats the difference. i find it a big difference...
*Appaudes*
I dont condone hunting unless it it for a legitimate reason, like culling a pest. We shoot hundreds of kangaroos over here but thats cuz they have reached pest proportions in some of the farming sectors. Same goes for rabbits. Rabbits cause millions of dollars worth of damage each year to farmlands. In these circumstances, I think its ok to shoot them. But going out for the fun of killing animals, well, its just not for me. I really dont like the idea of game hunting... It doenst sit well with me.
longlivetheZ
10-22-2005, 10:51 AM
See...I'm weird when it comes to guns. I own a gun. This gun, in fact (https://www.gilbertsguns.com/store/products/category142/718.html?ck_SID=7222666cf4061c833d4da69e3bf). But I don't like to hunt. It be kinda fun to go shoot at little shit with my gun, but I'm not a person that wants to go blow deer away or shoot bears or whatever. No need. But on the other hand, in the words of Ted Nugent, "Ya gotta KILL it before ya GRILL it". The Nuge rules. Some people go way overboard with the whole hunting thing...go get yourself a deer to eat over the winter and be done with it...why go get...like...10? No need.
My gun is more of a "toy" than anything else. I'm going to get my concealed carry permit cuz I work in one of the hardest-core ghetto parts of Cincinnati. It's more just for target shooting than anything else. That, plus I got a GREAT deal on it (230 for the special black and gold one is an AMAZING price...there are places by me that sell the other normal ones for over 300!) and I've always wanted a gun. This (https://www.gilbertsguns.com/store/products/category9/775.html?ck_SID=7222666cf4061c833d4da69e3bf) is going to be the next gun I buy. Not real expensive and it's a great gun to shoot. I'm also going to get the barrel extender to make the barrel from a 3.4" to a 5" one which improves accuracy. This is going to be solely a target gun, or "plinker". I got the .380 first cuz it's fun to shoot at targets but it will also put someone down in a hurry should the need arise...a .22 isn't very useful for this.
I'd love to see the Mausers or the sniper rifle...very cool. Royally sucks what happened to them, though. Ever consider starting over with a gun safe?
Why anyone would hate guns is beyond me. Hate stupid people with guns...that would make much more sense. It's just another hobby.
I want some venison, DAMMIT! lol
About the 10 sec Z32, I have firmly inserted my foot in my mouth and now I am hurridly retreating to my Z31 world now...lol Really didn't think that amount of hp would do that on a car of that size and weight...the Z32 really is a pretty heavy car.
My gun is more of a "toy" than anything else. I'm going to get my concealed carry permit cuz I work in one of the hardest-core ghetto parts of Cincinnati. It's more just for target shooting than anything else. That, plus I got a GREAT deal on it (230 for the special black and gold one is an AMAZING price...there are places by me that sell the other normal ones for over 300!) and I've always wanted a gun. This (https://www.gilbertsguns.com/store/products/category9/775.html?ck_SID=7222666cf4061c833d4da69e3bf) is going to be the next gun I buy. Not real expensive and it's a great gun to shoot. I'm also going to get the barrel extender to make the barrel from a 3.4" to a 5" one which improves accuracy. This is going to be solely a target gun, or "plinker". I got the .380 first cuz it's fun to shoot at targets but it will also put someone down in a hurry should the need arise...a .22 isn't very useful for this.
I'd love to see the Mausers or the sniper rifle...very cool. Royally sucks what happened to them, though. Ever consider starting over with a gun safe?
Why anyone would hate guns is beyond me. Hate stupid people with guns...that would make much more sense. It's just another hobby.
I want some venison, DAMMIT! lol
About the 10 sec Z32, I have firmly inserted my foot in my mouth and now I am hurridly retreating to my Z31 world now...lol Really didn't think that amount of hp would do that on a car of that size and weight...the Z32 really is a pretty heavy car.
1viadrft
10-22-2005, 02:36 PM
yeah? go wrestle me an Komodo Dragon Jeff Corwin!!! :loser:
wes... :eek7:
MmMmMmMmmm. Komodo Dragon.... the other white meat! :iceslolan
wes... :eek7:
MmMmMmMmmm. Komodo Dragon.... the other white meat! :iceslolan
ZedEx
10-22-2005, 02:45 PM
And running 12's.
:rofl:
I'm just messing with you dude. And come on Delerious, it wouldn't be the same without me around... You guys would have no one to pick on.
-Wes
:rofl:
I'm just messing with you dude. And come on Delerious, it wouldn't be the same without me around... You guys would have no one to pick on.
-Wes
DeleriousZ
10-22-2005, 04:01 PM
i'm sure we could find some newbies to pick on lol
probehtr300
10-22-2005, 05:09 PM
So i finally got some pics of car up. Nothin special just sharing, although maybe you guys seing one of the only 4 or so odd Z32s that run around here is special.
http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/6369/rearend7po.th.jpg (http://img470.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rearend7po.jpg)
http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/6302/sideview6xb.th.jpg (http://img470.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sideview6xb.jpg)
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2703/front349dn.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=front349dn.jpg)
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3280/interior7nz.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=interior7nz.jpg)
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/5071/shifter6ti.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shifter6ti.jpg)
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8305/pict00948ms.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict00948ms.jpg)
http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/6369/rearend7po.th.jpg (http://img470.imageshack.us/my.php?image=rearend7po.jpg)
http://img470.imageshack.us/img470/6302/sideview6xb.th.jpg (http://img470.imageshack.us/my.php?image=sideview6xb.jpg)
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/2703/front349dn.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=front349dn.jpg)
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/3280/interior7nz.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=interior7nz.jpg)
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/5071/shifter6ti.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=shifter6ti.jpg)
http://img401.imageshack.us/img401/8305/pict00948ms.th.jpg (http://img401.imageshack.us/my.php?image=pict00948ms.jpg)
DeleriousZ
10-22-2005, 05:19 PM
looks good dude... lovin the clear corners
longlivetheZ
10-22-2005, 05:41 PM
Tis good shit, man.
k3smostwanted
10-22-2005, 07:25 PM
About the 10 sec Z32, I have firmly inserted my foot in my mouth and now I am hurridly retreating to my Z31 world now...lol Really didn't think that amount of hp would do that on a car of that size and weight...the Z32 really is a pretty heavy car.
well...things like gearing and aerodynamics play a huge role in its quickness. and if you really look at the weight in comparison to other cars, it isnt that bad. they say for every 200lbs you lose .1 seconds off of the 1/4 mile. so saying that the Z32 weighs 400lbs heavier than the Z31 it would technically be about .2 seconds slower if gearing, aerodynamics, suspension were not included. .2 seconds isnt life or death...
anyways, for people who assume that the Z32 is an overweight pig usually have never driven the Z32TT or are completely biased against it and do not obtain basic reasoning skills. it carries its weight exceptionally well and i will never complain. plus the weight helps it reach higher speeds....it is a GT car, not a autoX car.
my :2cents:
probe: nice car!!!
well...things like gearing and aerodynamics play a huge role in its quickness. and if you really look at the weight in comparison to other cars, it isnt that bad. they say for every 200lbs you lose .1 seconds off of the 1/4 mile. so saying that the Z32 weighs 400lbs heavier than the Z31 it would technically be about .2 seconds slower if gearing, aerodynamics, suspension were not included. .2 seconds isnt life or death...
anyways, for people who assume that the Z32 is an overweight pig usually have never driven the Z32TT or are completely biased against it and do not obtain basic reasoning skills. it carries its weight exceptionally well and i will never complain. plus the weight helps it reach higher speeds....it is a GT car, not a autoX car.
my :2cents:
probe: nice car!!!
freakonaleash1187
10-23-2005, 01:27 AM
that is a good looking Z probe. the little molding down the side of the car is kinda weird lookin.
longlivetheZ
10-23-2005, 10:01 AM
I know they are very balanced cars. I've read that in many, many articals. "They're heavy, but you'd never know it by driving it" is a common thing I saw. But...in the 1/4...weight hurts.
I did a bit of research in the past regarding this and, did you know that a Z32TT weighs as much as an Anniversary Edition CONVERTABLE, V8 Camaro? This surprised me.
I did a bit of research in the past regarding this and, did you know that a Z32TT weighs as much as an Anniversary Edition CONVERTABLE, V8 Camaro? This surprised me.
ZedEx
10-23-2005, 01:36 PM
Hell yeah Probe, love your Zed! :thumbsup:
-Wes
-Wes
probehtr300
10-23-2005, 02:04 PM
yeah ive always thought the little moulding strip that goes down the side of my car was a lil odd too. But ive seen it on other Zeds, just not often. I wouldnt mind taking it off but then id have to get a good body shop to cover the little holes left and then paint and all that BS, so im just gunna leave em for the time being.
ZedEx
10-23-2005, 04:37 PM
No, that molding is awfully rare! I'd leave it on, seriously.
-Wes
-Wes
DeleriousZ
10-23-2005, 04:51 PM
meh, looks weird to me... i'd take it off if i had the time and money, which i probably wouldn't, so i'd most likely end up leaving it on lol
craigcully
10-23-2005, 05:00 PM
I'd leave the molding on... looks good on the z's. Maybe I'm biased because my 240 has similar molding.
k3smostwanted
10-23-2005, 05:22 PM
leave it on until you need a new paint job...then get it all taken care of.
I did a bit of research in the past regarding this and, did you know that a Z32TT weighs as much as an Anniversary Edition CONVERTABLE, V8 Camaro? This surprised me.
maybe...but i find it amusing that some people call one car overweight and then praise another car but that other car is only 100lbs lighter, not saying this pertains to you, just saying. it just seems like people have to find something to complain about and with the 300zx it is always its weight...because everything else is good or is it because that is just because that is all these people think matters.
let my give an example...
Mitsubishi EVOVIII = 3263lbs
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/spec_Exterior.aspx?year=2005&make=Mitsubishi&model=Lancer&trimid=-1&src=VIP&tab=2&sub=4
Nissan 300zx Twin Turbo = 3414
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/spec_Exterior.aspx?year=1990&make=Nissan&model=300ZX&trimid=-1&src=VIP&tab=2&sub=4
thats 150lbs difference but the 300zx also has 20+ extra ponies. I mean come on...i get tired of hearing about the Z32 being overweight.
point is: i have never heard anywhere ever complain about the weight of the EVO or other cars but this is all people have to say about the 300zx.
I did a bit of research in the past regarding this and, did you know that a Z32TT weighs as much as an Anniversary Edition CONVERTABLE, V8 Camaro? This surprised me.
maybe...but i find it amusing that some people call one car overweight and then praise another car but that other car is only 100lbs lighter, not saying this pertains to you, just saying. it just seems like people have to find something to complain about and with the 300zx it is always its weight...because everything else is good or is it because that is just because that is all these people think matters.
let my give an example...
Mitsubishi EVOVIII = 3263lbs
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/spec_Exterior.aspx?year=2005&make=Mitsubishi&model=Lancer&trimid=-1&src=VIP&tab=2&sub=4
Nissan 300zx Twin Turbo = 3414
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/spec_Exterior.aspx?year=1990&make=Nissan&model=300ZX&trimid=-1&src=VIP&tab=2&sub=4
thats 150lbs difference but the 300zx also has 20+ extra ponies. I mean come on...i get tired of hearing about the Z32 being overweight.
point is: i have never heard anywhere ever complain about the weight of the EVO or other cars but this is all people have to say about the 300zx.
DeleriousZ
10-23-2005, 07:17 PM
the best form of weight reduction is GET OFF YOUR FAT ASS AND LOSE A FEW LBS
:D
:D
xXxRocker5150
10-23-2005, 07:19 PM
^hmm yea I never knew evo's were above 3000 lbs, I always assumed they were lighter b/c I've heard people call em' light cars or somthing... but I mean come on now Jason, very few cars come close to looking as good as a z32, and the fact that you have a z32tt proves that you pretty much IMO have a japanese ferarri.
xXxRocker5150
10-23-2005, 07:40 PM
Also, what are some sure fire signs of my clutch/flywheel going??? What about the tranny??? Thanks for the input
DeleriousZ
10-23-2005, 08:05 PM
well if your clutch is on its way out (like mine is $*&(%^&$#) the first way of telling it's slipping is to take the car up to about 3000 rpm in 3rd and hammer the throttle, if the revs go up faster than it normally accelerates then the clutch is on its way out... can do this at 2000 rpm in 4th as well
if it's chattering when you're enguaging it that means the previous owner liked to ride that thing like a mofo and it probably has dead spots on it (like mine too... fucking guy didn't know how to drive stick worth beans i'm guessing) that could also mean the flywheel needs resurfacing...
if the tranny's on her way out... it's usually the synchro's that go first... excessive grinding into gears is the first sign... if it's just little clips chips and jerks into gear then you might just need to upgrade the tranny fluid... like some redline mt90...
basically, you'll KNOW when something is going...
if it's chattering when you're enguaging it that means the previous owner liked to ride that thing like a mofo and it probably has dead spots on it (like mine too... fucking guy didn't know how to drive stick worth beans i'm guessing) that could also mean the flywheel needs resurfacing...
if the tranny's on her way out... it's usually the synchro's that go first... excessive grinding into gears is the first sign... if it's just little clips chips and jerks into gear then you might just need to upgrade the tranny fluid... like some redline mt90...
basically, you'll KNOW when something is going...
xXxRocker5150
10-23-2005, 08:10 PM
yea, 3rd gear if I'm not carefull really grinds like a bitch... also, it feels like the car shudders or almost quits when I shift gears under high boost... I just didn't know which one might be going
DeleriousZ
10-23-2005, 09:57 PM
yeah, looks like your syncro's are out on 3rd gear... also will want to replace the clutch while you're fixing it:p
ZedEx
10-24-2005, 01:06 AM
That could be your clutch causing the grinding as well... Happened with the Shitvic, and it always seems to be third gear for some reason.
-Wes
-Wes
DeleriousZ
10-24-2005, 02:30 AM
oh.. i fixed my alarm today... turns out it was just a fuse that was hidden away had popped.... well more like exploded... but you get the idea... the alarm works again
xXxRocker5150
10-24-2005, 03:04 PM
Hmm how much does it cost to replace one synchro ne ways???? I was thinking about gettin' a new clutch kit w/ and aluminum flywheel too, but there's just no $$$. I think what it boils down to is this; I'm just gonna get my custom exhaust and MBC. Those are the only mods I think I'm going to do, and than when the time comes I'll sell the zed for a z32TT... or maybe a z31 with really low miles, I haven't decided yet, but what I know is that I'd prefer to start with z32.
Delerious, how many miles are on your z ne ways????
Delerious, how many miles are on your z ne ways????
dimefury
10-24-2005, 03:30 PM
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maybe...but i find it amusing that some people call one car overweight and then praise another car but that other car is only 100lbs lighter, not saying this pertains to you, just saying. it just seems like people have to find something to complain about and with the 300zx it is always its weight...because everything else is good or is it because that is just because that is all these people think matters.
let my give an example...
Mitsubishi EVOVIII = 3263lbs
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/spec_Exterior.aspx?year=2005&make=Mitsubishi&model=Lancer&trimid=-1&src=VIP&tab=2&sub=4
Nissan 300zx Twin Turbo = 3414
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/spec_Exterior.aspx?year=1990&make=Nissan&model=300ZX&trimid=-1&src=VIP&tab=2&sub=4
thats 150lbs difference but the 300zx also has 20+ extra ponies. I mean come on...i get tired of hearing about the Z32 being overweight.
point is: i have never heard anywhere ever complain about the weight of the EVO or other cars but this is all people have to say about the 300zx.
the mitsu is AWD....and lighter, despite its heavier drivetrain.
not really a good choice to make your arguement
it would be better to compare oranges to oranges.....
i like 300zx's.......but your comparison makes the 300zx sound heavy, not light
maybe...but i find it amusing that some people call one car overweight and then praise another car but that other car is only 100lbs lighter, not saying this pertains to you, just saying. it just seems like people have to find something to complain about and with the 300zx it is always its weight...because everything else is good or is it because that is just because that is all these people think matters.
let my give an example...
Mitsubishi EVOVIII = 3263lbs
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/spec_Exterior.aspx?year=2005&make=Mitsubishi&model=Lancer&trimid=-1&src=VIP&tab=2&sub=4
Nissan 300zx Twin Turbo = 3414
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/spec_Exterior.aspx?year=1990&make=Nissan&model=300ZX&trimid=-1&src=VIP&tab=2&sub=4
thats 150lbs difference but the 300zx also has 20+ extra ponies. I mean come on...i get tired of hearing about the Z32 being overweight.
point is: i have never heard anywhere ever complain about the weight of the EVO or other cars but this is all people have to say about the 300zx.
the mitsu is AWD....and lighter, despite its heavier drivetrain.
not really a good choice to make your arguement
it would be better to compare oranges to oranges.....
i like 300zx's.......but your comparison makes the 300zx sound heavy, not light
freakonaleash1187
10-24-2005, 03:45 PM
the mitsu is AWD....and lighter, despite its heavier drivetrain.
not really a good choice to make your arguement
it would be better to compare oranges to oranges.....
i like 300zx's.......but your comparison makes the 300zx sound heavy, not light
where did this guy come from?
not really a good choice to make your arguement
it would be better to compare oranges to oranges.....
i like 300zx's.......but your comparison makes the 300zx sound heavy, not light
where did this guy come from?
k3smostwanted
10-24-2005, 04:34 PM
the mitsu is AWD....and lighter, despite its heavier drivetrain.
not really a good choice to make your arguement
it would be better to compare oranges to oranges.....
i like 300zx's.......but your comparison makes the 300zx sound heavy, not light
my comparison makes the 300zx seem like a reasonable weight in my eyes. where did this talk about AWD come from. my point was everyone considers the EVO a lightweight car when it only weighs 150lbs less than the 300zx but also has 20+less HP. i thought it was a very good comparison. just because a car has AWD doesnt mean it is a totally different breed. i can think of a million other examples...but i chose the EVO because most people consider it lightweight and powerful while the 300zx only weighs a tad more but still more powerful.
so explain to me how i made the 300zx sound heavy...because i compared it to a slightly lighter car?
and i seriously doubt with all of the AWD equipment that the EVO drivetrain is mush heavier than the 300zx's. thats where the 300zx gets alot of its weight.
you are the type of person i am tlaking about...one who cannot take basic knowledge and logic and think reasonably about a situation.
150lbs heavier but 20 more HP= about the same power to weight, which entirely represents the basic understanding that the 300zx isnt as overweight as people make it seem.
lets give another example...
Toyota Supra, i have never heard anyone say this car is overweight. some people even go as far to say that they like this car better because it isnt as heavy as the Z32. well lets take a look here...
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/spec_Exterior.aspx?year=1998&make=Toyota&model=Supra&trimid=-1&src=VIP&tab=2&sub=4
Supra weighs in at 3515lbs but for the benefit of the doubt, it does have 20 more HP. once again...100lbs heavier than the 300zx but it does have 20 more HP to make up for it. so as people refer to the EVO as a lightweight but the 300zx pig...i guess when comparing the 300zx to the supra you could go as far to say the 300zx is a lightweight and the supra is a pig. same thing right...
how about comparing an equal year corvette...
1990 Chevy Corvette = 3307lbs...roughly about 100lbs less than the 300zx but the corvette only has 245hp yet the corvette is considered a lightweight sports car. pftttt....
BTW: this is not considering the Drag Coeficients or Aerodynamics of any of these cars. this is simply a comparison of power to weight and me trying to figure out why the 300zx is called an overweight pig while these same people are calling something that weighs slightly less and has less HP a lightweight sports car. WTF!
not really a good choice to make your arguement
it would be better to compare oranges to oranges.....
i like 300zx's.......but your comparison makes the 300zx sound heavy, not light
my comparison makes the 300zx seem like a reasonable weight in my eyes. where did this talk about AWD come from. my point was everyone considers the EVO a lightweight car when it only weighs 150lbs less than the 300zx but also has 20+less HP. i thought it was a very good comparison. just because a car has AWD doesnt mean it is a totally different breed. i can think of a million other examples...but i chose the EVO because most people consider it lightweight and powerful while the 300zx only weighs a tad more but still more powerful.
so explain to me how i made the 300zx sound heavy...because i compared it to a slightly lighter car?
and i seriously doubt with all of the AWD equipment that the EVO drivetrain is mush heavier than the 300zx's. thats where the 300zx gets alot of its weight.
you are the type of person i am tlaking about...one who cannot take basic knowledge and logic and think reasonably about a situation.
150lbs heavier but 20 more HP= about the same power to weight, which entirely represents the basic understanding that the 300zx isnt as overweight as people make it seem.
lets give another example...
Toyota Supra, i have never heard anyone say this car is overweight. some people even go as far to say that they like this car better because it isnt as heavy as the Z32. well lets take a look here...
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/spec_Exterior.aspx?year=1998&make=Toyota&model=Supra&trimid=-1&src=VIP&tab=2&sub=4
Supra weighs in at 3515lbs but for the benefit of the doubt, it does have 20 more HP. once again...100lbs heavier than the 300zx but it does have 20 more HP to make up for it. so as people refer to the EVO as a lightweight but the 300zx pig...i guess when comparing the 300zx to the supra you could go as far to say the 300zx is a lightweight and the supra is a pig. same thing right...
how about comparing an equal year corvette...
1990 Chevy Corvette = 3307lbs...roughly about 100lbs less than the 300zx but the corvette only has 245hp yet the corvette is considered a lightweight sports car. pftttt....
BTW: this is not considering the Drag Coeficients or Aerodynamics of any of these cars. this is simply a comparison of power to weight and me trying to figure out why the 300zx is called an overweight pig while these same people are calling something that weighs slightly less and has less HP a lightweight sports car. WTF!
BLU CIVIC
10-24-2005, 04:52 PM
the 300ZX is a pig *oink, oink*
longlivetheZ
10-24-2005, 04:56 PM
The Z32 is a relatively heavy car for what it is. Think about it...it's a RWD, 2 door, 2 seat sports car that weighs over 3200 lbs. That's quite hefty considering what it is. For the evo to weigh what it does isn't too bad if, again, you consider what it is. That's a full size 4 door sedan that seats 5 people AND it's awd. No, the Z32 ISN'T A "TANK", but it is a bit overweight for what it is...that's all I was saying. I love the cars. You know a car is pretty damn good when it can weigh as much as that car does but you'd NEVER know it by driving it.
k3smostwanted
10-24-2005, 05:45 PM
The Z32 is a relatively heavy car for what it is. Think about it...it's a RWD, 2 door, 2 seat sports car that weighs over 3200 lbs. That's quite hefty considering what it is. For the evo to weigh what it does isn't too bad if, again, you consider what it is. That's a full size 4 door sedan that seats 5 people AND it's awd. No, the Z32 ISN'T A "TANK", but it is a bit overweight for what it is...that's all I was saying. I love the cars. You know a car is pretty damn good when it can weigh as much as that car does but you'd NEVER know it by driving it.
well...if you to think of it that way lets take a look at it from another point of view.
in the 90's cars were made out of mostly metal...today, there is alot more plastics and more technology for lighter parts.
compare the 300zx to its competition, it stacks better than everything but the RX7 and there isnt much that is lighter than the RX7. the 300zx has every excuse to be what it weighs and Nissan went to great measures to keep the weight down aroudn where its at unlike the VR4. all the extra AWD crap doesnt weigh another 400lbs. its the things like the 15lb hood on the 300zx and the cast aluminum jack and lug nut remover.
and the same excuses you made for the EVO can be made for the 300zx. lets think glass t-tops qhich requires extra reinforcing, full glass hatch instead of a trunk lid, HICAS, etc.
i dont find it overweight for what it is and what it is compared to. the only thing NIssan could have done is put lighter seats in it, use CF body panels, or offer the TT in a slicktop.
you have to think about what your getting...alot of people wouldnt trade in their glass t-tops to save 200lbs. but this would put it in a very nice weight class that people probably wouldnt complain about but then they probably would be complaining because the Supra has a removable roof and the 300zx doesnt. like i said...i think i have valid points and i think people need to stop bitching about it weighing 3400lbs which isnt all that heavy unless comparing it to a civic hatch or something. if it want its weight people would be bitching more about it only offered in a 5-speed and if it wasnt those 2 im sure they would think of something else. :rolleyes:
Supra = heavier
VR4 = heavier
RX7 = lighter
SVX = heavier
well...if you to think of it that way lets take a look at it from another point of view.
in the 90's cars were made out of mostly metal...today, there is alot more plastics and more technology for lighter parts.
compare the 300zx to its competition, it stacks better than everything but the RX7 and there isnt much that is lighter than the RX7. the 300zx has every excuse to be what it weighs and Nissan went to great measures to keep the weight down aroudn where its at unlike the VR4. all the extra AWD crap doesnt weigh another 400lbs. its the things like the 15lb hood on the 300zx and the cast aluminum jack and lug nut remover.
and the same excuses you made for the EVO can be made for the 300zx. lets think glass t-tops qhich requires extra reinforcing, full glass hatch instead of a trunk lid, HICAS, etc.
i dont find it overweight for what it is and what it is compared to. the only thing NIssan could have done is put lighter seats in it, use CF body panels, or offer the TT in a slicktop.
you have to think about what your getting...alot of people wouldnt trade in their glass t-tops to save 200lbs. but this would put it in a very nice weight class that people probably wouldnt complain about but then they probably would be complaining because the Supra has a removable roof and the 300zx doesnt. like i said...i think i have valid points and i think people need to stop bitching about it weighing 3400lbs which isnt all that heavy unless comparing it to a civic hatch or something. if it want its weight people would be bitching more about it only offered in a 5-speed and if it wasnt those 2 im sure they would think of something else. :rolleyes:
Supra = heavier
VR4 = heavier
RX7 = lighter
SVX = heavier
k3smostwanted
10-24-2005, 06:42 PM
http://www.svspower.com/images/upload/video_54_0.wmv
now that is american muscle...2000HP. who thinks if i go visit that place they will let me drive that thing? gawd!!! nothing like a V10 spooling 2 turbos. sorry...doesnt pertain to Z's but damn impressive and the best part, the car is located in chicago.
now that is american muscle...2000HP. who thinks if i go visit that place they will let me drive that thing? gawd!!! nothing like a V10 spooling 2 turbos. sorry...doesnt pertain to Z's but damn impressive and the best part, the car is located in chicago.
DeleriousZ
10-24-2005, 09:41 PM
seen it... sweet.. but seen it :p i don't think there's ANY way in hell they'd let you drive that thing unless they had it in valet mode lol...
DeleriousZ
10-24-2005, 09:42 PM
must... bump to... 300...
DeleriousZ
10-24-2005, 09:42 PM
cooomeee ooonnnnnnn
DeleriousZ
10-24-2005, 09:46 PM
well just so it's not complete whoring...
http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/17-15224-327357-8399/07%201995%20300%20ZX%20Turbo.jpg
mint
http://forums.autoweek.com/servlet/JiveServlet/download/17-15224-327357-8399/07%201995%20300%20ZX%20Turbo.jpg
mint
DeleriousZ
10-24-2005, 09:50 PM
WOOT
http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/3193/crazyvg7pu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
el drool... at least someone knows how to modify something on an s130 chassis :p
http://img458.imageshack.us/img458/3193/crazyvg7pu.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
el drool... at least someone knows how to modify something on an s130 chassis :p
xXxRocker5150
10-24-2005, 09:53 PM
you know alot of the older muscle cars were about the same weight range... the problem with people these days is that they all take on stupid ass ricer mentalilties in their mindsl they figure that if the vehicle is above 3,000 lbs it cant do shit, and that if it isn't as light as a crx it won't go anywhere unless it has 1000+HP... I'm with you on this one Jason, I'm sick and tired of people criticizing the z cars and also the 3000gt cars as well... yes the 3kgts are heavy, but they really do hold their own...
DeleriousZ
10-24-2005, 10:21 PM
come on how much more do i have to whore!
DeleriousZ
10-24-2005, 10:22 PM
this better be the last one...
DeleriousZ
10-24-2005, 10:23 PM
this is ridiculous.... more random vg pics then!
http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/9434/extwgz3121rx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
http://img482.imageshack.us/img482/9434/extwgz3121rx.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
DeleriousZ
10-24-2005, 10:25 PM
alright that has to do it...
DeleriousZ
10-24-2005, 10:28 PM
fine then.. be that way, stupid thing...
now that is freaking sweet..... the custom intake mani... the custom turbo setup... oh yes!
http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/4204/hybrizturbosetup4mt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
now that is freaking sweet..... the custom intake mani... the custom turbo setup... oh yes!
http://img474.imageshack.us/img474/4204/hybrizturbosetup4mt.jpg (http://imageshack.us)
DeleriousZ
10-24-2005, 10:31 PM
ok if this doesn't do it i give up....
DeleriousZ
10-24-2005, 10:32 PM
YES!!! finally 300!!! i feel so bad for all that whoring now lol
probehtr300
10-24-2005, 10:59 PM
http://www.svspower.com/images/upload/video_54_0.wmv
now that is american muscle...2000HP. who thinks if i go visit that place they will let me drive that thing? gawd!!! nothing like a V10 spooling 2 turbos. sorry...doesnt pertain to Z's but damn impressive and the best part, the car is located in chicago.
Yeah ive seen that car, in a shootout in columbus.
Heres some real american muscle... and i helped build it.
2400 HP
http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/1018/bythetrailer4lp.th.jpg (http://img469.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bythetrailer4lp.jpg)
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5687/startingline7mt.th.jpg (http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=startingline7mt.jpg)
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/4041/acrosstheshop2ts.th.jpg (http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=acrosstheshop2ts.jpg)
and heres a pic of it before winning the big race the other weekend- It made front page because of that nitrous backfire (no damage)- http://www.nsca-racing.com/
now that is american muscle...2000HP. who thinks if i go visit that place they will let me drive that thing? gawd!!! nothing like a V10 spooling 2 turbos. sorry...doesnt pertain to Z's but damn impressive and the best part, the car is located in chicago.
Yeah ive seen that car, in a shootout in columbus.
Heres some real american muscle... and i helped build it.
2400 HP
http://img469.imageshack.us/img469/1018/bythetrailer4lp.th.jpg (http://img469.imageshack.us/my.php?image=bythetrailer4lp.jpg)
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/5687/startingline7mt.th.jpg (http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=startingline7mt.jpg)
http://img367.imageshack.us/img367/4041/acrosstheshop2ts.th.jpg (http://img367.imageshack.us/my.php?image=acrosstheshop2ts.jpg)
and heres a pic of it before winning the big race the other weekend- It made front page because of that nitrous backfire (no damage)- http://www.nsca-racing.com/
freakonaleash1187
10-24-2005, 11:26 PM
what are you talking about 300? im only to page 113 in this thread.
BLU CIVIC
10-25-2005, 08:02 AM
BLU CIVIC
10-25-2005, 08:10 AM
new sig...better than the last
freakonaleash1187
10-25-2005, 08:15 AM
mmmmm damn, thats and effin hot sig. but the boobs are about too big.
BLU CIVIC
10-25-2005, 10:26 AM
i considered a 300zx after i totaled my civic, test drove a NA but went back a civic... 2+2 still not good for 2 carseats
Driftertank
10-25-2005, 11:07 AM
sorry to revive a dead topic, guys, but my network was down part of last week and i missed the "guns" discussion. i just wanted to put my two bits in.
my dad first taught me to shoot when i was six, with a little .22 ruger revolver. but before that, he taught me how to respect a gun: never point it at anything you don't want to shoot, even if it's not loaded; always assume a gun is loaded, until you yourself have positively deterrmined it is not; never stand in front of anyone when they are shooting; and of course, always remember that a gun is not a toy, it is a weapon.
i always follow the simple rules of gun safety, and insist that others around me do the same. guns are not dangerous in themselves. they're just chunks of metal, tools to be used by someone who grasps the reality of their purpose. it's guns in the hands of people who either don't respect them, or think that they should be used to enforce that persons will on others that is dangerous. i don't condone people who kill animals just for the sake of killing animals. killing pest animals is okay, in my opinion, as is hunting game animals, as long as you intend to make use of every usable bit of the animal, and respect the envronment in which you hunt. people who just shoot animals from the highway, or kill a deer, cut off the rack, and dump the body make me sick. guns aren't evil. stupid people who use guns suck.
cars are the same way, by the way :p
my dad first taught me to shoot when i was six, with a little .22 ruger revolver. but before that, he taught me how to respect a gun: never point it at anything you don't want to shoot, even if it's not loaded; always assume a gun is loaded, until you yourself have positively deterrmined it is not; never stand in front of anyone when they are shooting; and of course, always remember that a gun is not a toy, it is a weapon.
i always follow the simple rules of gun safety, and insist that others around me do the same. guns are not dangerous in themselves. they're just chunks of metal, tools to be used by someone who grasps the reality of their purpose. it's guns in the hands of people who either don't respect them, or think that they should be used to enforce that persons will on others that is dangerous. i don't condone people who kill animals just for the sake of killing animals. killing pest animals is okay, in my opinion, as is hunting game animals, as long as you intend to make use of every usable bit of the animal, and respect the envronment in which you hunt. people who just shoot animals from the highway, or kill a deer, cut off the rack, and dump the body make me sick. guns aren't evil. stupid people who use guns suck.
cars are the same way, by the way :p
k3smostwanted
10-25-2005, 04:47 PM
boobs too big? dude those boobs are nice. i love your sigs...keep em coming. shes HOTT!!!
probe: nice nitrous back fire. :lol: but yeah...that isnt a street car thought. that 2000HP Viper could still be a street car if need be. :D
probe: nice nitrous back fire. :lol: but yeah...that isnt a street car thought. that 2000HP Viper could still be a street car if need be. :D
dimefury
10-25-2005, 07:45 PM
my comparison makes the 300zx seem like a reasonable weight in my eyes. where did this talk about AWD come from. my point was everyone considers the EVO a lightweight car when it only weighs 150lbs less than the 300zx but also has 20+less HP. i thought it was a very good comparison. just because a car has AWD doesnt mean it is a totally different breed. i can think of a million other examples...but i chose the EVO because most people consider it lightweight and powerful while the 300zx only weighs a tad more but still more powerful.
so explain to me how i made the 300zx sound heavy...because i compared it to a slightly lighter car?
and i seriously doubt with all of the AWD equipment that the EVO drivetrain is mush heavier than the 300zx's. thats where the 300zx gets alot of its weight.
you are the type of person i am tlaking about...one who cannot take basic knowledge and logic and think reasonably about a situation.
150lbs heavier but 20 more HP= about the same power to weight, which entirely represents the basic understanding that the 300zx isnt as overweight as people make it seem.
lets give another example...
Toyota Supra, i have never heard anyone say this car is overweight. some people even go as far to say that they like this car better because it isnt as heavy as the Z32. well lets take a look here...
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/spec_Exterior.aspx?year=1998&make=Toyota&model=Supra&trimid=-1&src=VIP&tab=2&sub=4
Supra weighs in at 3515lbs but for the benefit of the doubt, it does have 20 more HP. once again...100lbs heavier than the 300zx but it does have 20 more HP to make up for it. so as people refer to the EVO as a lightweight but the 300zx pig...i guess when comparing the 300zx to the supra you could go as far to say the 300zx is a lightweight and the supra is a pig. same thing right...
how about comparing an equal year corvette...
1990 Chevy Corvette = 3307lbs...roughly about 100lbs less than the 300zx but the corvette only has 245hp yet the corvette is considered a lightweight sports car. pftttt....
BTW: this is not considering the Drag Coeficients or Aerodynamics of any of these cars. this is simply a comparison of power to weight and me trying to figure out why the 300zx is called an overweight pig while these same people are calling something that weighs slightly less and has less HP a lightweight sports car. WTF!
hey buddy, no need to get all pissed off......
i was just saying that an AWD car should naturally weigh more than a RWD car and a weight comparison between the two doesn't help your argument that the 300zx is a light car
i never called it a fat pig (you did) i love all nissans (especially datsuns) so i am not arguing against you, i was just trying to help you make a better arguement by using a different comparison
the supra and corvette comparisons are more informative....comparing oranges to oranges
and what is this "you are the kind of person i'm talking about" BS, you don't know anything about me but are ready to go on the offensive and start flinging insults.....cool it.
so explain to me how i made the 300zx sound heavy...because i compared it to a slightly lighter car?
and i seriously doubt with all of the AWD equipment that the EVO drivetrain is mush heavier than the 300zx's. thats where the 300zx gets alot of its weight.
you are the type of person i am tlaking about...one who cannot take basic knowledge and logic and think reasonably about a situation.
150lbs heavier but 20 more HP= about the same power to weight, which entirely represents the basic understanding that the 300zx isnt as overweight as people make it seem.
lets give another example...
Toyota Supra, i have never heard anyone say this car is overweight. some people even go as far to say that they like this car better because it isnt as heavy as the Z32. well lets take a look here...
http://autos.msn.com/research/vip/spec_Exterior.aspx?year=1998&make=Toyota&model=Supra&trimid=-1&src=VIP&tab=2&sub=4
Supra weighs in at 3515lbs but for the benefit of the doubt, it does have 20 more HP. once again...100lbs heavier than the 300zx but it does have 20 more HP to make up for it. so as people refer to the EVO as a lightweight but the 300zx pig...i guess when comparing the 300zx to the supra you could go as far to say the 300zx is a lightweight and the supra is a pig. same thing right...
how about comparing an equal year corvette...
1990 Chevy Corvette = 3307lbs...roughly about 100lbs less than the 300zx but the corvette only has 245hp yet the corvette is considered a lightweight sports car. pftttt....
BTW: this is not considering the Drag Coeficients or Aerodynamics of any of these cars. this is simply a comparison of power to weight and me trying to figure out why the 300zx is called an overweight pig while these same people are calling something that weighs slightly less and has less HP a lightweight sports car. WTF!
hey buddy, no need to get all pissed off......
i was just saying that an AWD car should naturally weigh more than a RWD car and a weight comparison between the two doesn't help your argument that the 300zx is a light car
i never called it a fat pig (you did) i love all nissans (especially datsuns) so i am not arguing against you, i was just trying to help you make a better arguement by using a different comparison
the supra and corvette comparisons are more informative....comparing oranges to oranges
and what is this "you are the kind of person i'm talking about" BS, you don't know anything about me but are ready to go on the offensive and start flinging insults.....cool it.
k3smostwanted
10-25-2005, 08:24 PM
hey buddy, no need to get all pissed off......
i was just saying that an AWD car should naturally weigh more than a RWD car and a weight comparison between the two doesn't help your argument that the 300zx is a light car
i never called it a fat pig (you did) i love all nissans (especially datsuns) so i am not arguing against you, i was just trying to help you make a better arguement by using a different comparison
the supra and corvette comparisons are more informative....comparing oranges to oranges
and what is this "you are the kind of person i'm talking about" BS, you don't know anything about me but are ready to go on the offensive and start flinging insults.....cool it.
im not pissed...if you know anything about me at all i like to debate.
and your AWD comment is ignorant. there are many AWD systems that weigh the same or less than a standard RWD set-up.
and if you could read i was never trying to prove the 300zx is a light and car and i never said it was a heavy pig. i said it shouldnt be considered an overweight pig when compared to its competition or other cars in teh same class.
i used the AWD EVO as a comparison because people call it a LIGHTWEIGHT car when in all reality it doesnt weigh much less than what people consider a overweight pig. i dotn see what is so hard to understand...it has nothing to do with comparing oranges to oranges or if the car is AWD or not. it was simply stating that a car people consider light has 20 less HP and only weighs 150lbs less than a car they consider an overweight pig. i found and still do find it a very good example of my point...
and i wasnt flinging an insults. i simply assumed by your comments that you are just another person like i was referring to.
good day
i was just saying that an AWD car should naturally weigh more than a RWD car and a weight comparison between the two doesn't help your argument that the 300zx is a light car
i never called it a fat pig (you did) i love all nissans (especially datsuns) so i am not arguing against you, i was just trying to help you make a better arguement by using a different comparison
the supra and corvette comparisons are more informative....comparing oranges to oranges
and what is this "you are the kind of person i'm talking about" BS, you don't know anything about me but are ready to go on the offensive and start flinging insults.....cool it.
im not pissed...if you know anything about me at all i like to debate.
and your AWD comment is ignorant. there are many AWD systems that weigh the same or less than a standard RWD set-up.
and if you could read i was never trying to prove the 300zx is a light and car and i never said it was a heavy pig. i said it shouldnt be considered an overweight pig when compared to its competition or other cars in teh same class.
i used the AWD EVO as a comparison because people call it a LIGHTWEIGHT car when in all reality it doesnt weigh much less than what people consider a overweight pig. i dotn see what is so hard to understand...it has nothing to do with comparing oranges to oranges or if the car is AWD or not. it was simply stating that a car people consider light has 20 less HP and only weighs 150lbs less than a car they consider an overweight pig. i found and still do find it a very good example of my point...
and i wasnt flinging an insults. i simply assumed by your comments that you are just another person like i was referring to.
good day
xXxRocker5150
10-25-2005, 08:47 PM
^ lol good day? What are you Fes from that 70s show now?
1viadrft
10-25-2005, 10:10 PM
I just acquired a '90 323 hatch for Rally-X'ing... Can't wait until the new season starts!
1viadrft
10-25-2005, 10:10 PM
That's a Mazda btw...
DeleriousZ
10-26-2005, 01:03 AM
lol shweet dude... are you going to turn it into an awd turbo'd MONSHTER? :p
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