Grand Am Off Topic Thread

Yeah so yesterday (about those tornados lol), we had massive storms coming this way that looked potentially tornadic to me on the radar. So I decide to go out to my car (with massive amounts of lightning in the distance) to go hide in a parking garage at Purdue. I walk outside... big puddle under my car. Figured it was from the AC... but realized i hadn't driven my car in 24 hours. :uhoh: F@#$!!!! :crying: You guessed it, once again, big pile of coolant all over the place. Turned car on, insta-low coolant light. Turns out now I either have another massive gasket leak or my radiator or a hose exploded. LUCKILY my buddy came and picked me up because we were going to go work out... storms were nasty.

On the way to work out, tornado sirens go off. We have to park at one of the farthest freaking spots away from the building... we get out of the car and SPRINT to the workout building, I'm wearing sandals and going through massive puddles of water and soaking my feet in mud. Finally got inside right before the hail started...

Forced us into the basement for a while. After it was done we worked out and it was storming the rest of hte evening.

Long story short: Tornadoes came by, my car is dead, and if it's another gasket it's not going to be driving for at least several months. So I'll be buying a new car.

UUUGGGHHHHHHHHHHHH :crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::crying::c rying:

lol that was posted at 05:48 AM CST :D I woke up 3-4hrs after to goto my first class lol. Dont know how I did it lol

Damn vipey... you just haven't had any good luck with that LIM gaskets have you? Hopefully something else blew like a hose.

new life is in my grand am.... took out the entire trunk... all carpet, left an 'essential' kit ... tire/bar/jack/jumper cables, all down in the storage... Seats are out completely, plastic panel is out... and both doors in the back are now out.. with child lock on lol

Its a small amount but noticeable... accelerates fairly good, can easily feel colder air at night just makes it wanna gooooo lol

Downer is... my rear speakers have no 'boom' cause of the open pressure to the cabin, and theres tons of road noise now. Why do our cars have an open vent like thing in the trunk?

Yeah Vipey hope your troubles are something else besides the LI. I thought you had that replaced last year ??

I dont think we had any tornadoes but the winds were high and the hail was pounding my SE. I just took it out that day from its long winter overhaul. :(
Luckily it didnt look like a golf ball when it was over. I saw some pics of cars from the Lafeyette area that had broken windows, and major dents.

Yeah Gir those parts did block some road sounds, a little. Where is this vent youre talking about ?

Thats something Ive been looking at is droppin a couple hundred pounds from the SE.... maybe CF hood and fenders :dunno:

Is this just a talk rubbish Thread??? Armageddon?? Armageddon out of here! ciao!

Is this just a talk rubbish Thread??? Armageddon?? Armageddon out of here! ciao!

It sure is Manic1888. :iceslolan

Armagedon is near! :lol:

pull back the carpet matt stuff in the trunk and look in the passenger cornor... a determined rat or mouse could easily chew thru the brittle plastic lol...

oh yea, fixed my exhaust rattle noise for $10... bought new hangers, lifted it up, cut the old ones off and slipped on the new lol... good investment, it'll keep me SANE from now on while I drive lol.

yeah Gir their are some wimpy parts back there.
I need to build me a couple sub boxes to fit behind my tire well area.... just big enough for a 10". I guess the weight reductions will just get added back then. :lol:

Rattles?! :eek7: I hate those myself ! :banghead: Thats when the subs will come in handy. :D

I still wanna build up my motor slightly... just build up a stageI cam build, new valvetrain pieces and w/e... PnP LIM/UIM, new injectors, and a dry setup :D

I'm still working on this 3.4 block, cant decide what all to do other then bore it out. :dunno: Been looking at 3.5L heads and cam, I guess they are the same blocks. Not many in the junk yards yet to get some cheaper parts.

Performance rods, pistons & rings, crank and bearings are a definate! :evillol:

Oh yeah, I got another tat (started) last saturday, morning... just needs color/shading.

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cute vixen type of tat there XI... lol jk, just bustin ur balls :nutkick:

YOU sir, need to take a look on over at MPRacing cause their online selection has grown a good amount, basically customize your N/A build if you want with a cam and w/e else they have to offer, They def have new pistons that'll fit your overbore

Yeah Gir it's kinda vixenish. It's a big change from the skulls , crossbones and dragons on the other arm. :lol:

I went and checked MP racing, they have gotten a bunch more stuff since I last visited them.
Btw has anyone seen PFYC recently ?? They dropped the prices on the RSM SC to $2000 something ! :grinyes:

Im fixing to upgrade to a 38lb injectors when I throw on my RSM SC, but I lost the damn wire harness. :( Now i need to go find a 3 gen Grand Prix or TA that I can scap a injector harness from. :runaround:

Glad this weeks about over! Been a long one thats for sure!

Speaking of government involvement, how is everyone in the US enjoying their DTV?

Speaking of government involvement, how is everyone in the US enjoying their DTV?

I think its unconstitutional to make every up grade. :disappoin
Though I have satelite tv so it is already digital.

the DTV upgrade doesn't affect me since I've always used cable! Since I haven't gotten a phone call from my aunt I would guess that she's ok as well as of the moment since shes the only one with antenna TV in my family.


Nice Tat Xi!

On the DTV, I still think its a shamb!
Under heavy cloud cover you wont get a signal. At least with UHF/VHF you could get a static picture when the weathers bad to know if the storms headin your way. Now you wont know?! :screwy:

And from what Ive heard you also need a HD antanna, and an amplifier if you live more then 30-40 miles from the broadcast towers.

And thanks for the tat cudos grfnkl !

Yay for getting a 6 point $126.50 ticket for crossing a road closed ahead sign (disregarding traffic control device) when my intention was to turn around and go back the way I came. And then of course letting traffic in front and behind of me go free. Apparently THEY didn't break the law, but I did somehow... when they went THROUGH and I merely TURNED AROUND. FUCKERS.

At least I had fun with paintballing, until I got back home and my GA dumped all its coolant again, and I have no coolant, and no way to go get coolant, and I'm stranded here thinking about this ridiculous ticket I shouldn't have to pay.

Oh and my parents/grandparents/uncles/aunts might lose the family business this week if the bank calls in their credit line, meaning my entire family is unemployed from a job that used to net six figures. Therefore we lose the house, and I either have to get my car fixed immediately with money I suddenly don't have or lease a car with my dad to cosign before he's labeled unemployed, and pay for THAT with money I don't have.

When will the shitstorm end?

FML :angryfire

Yay for getting a 6 point $126.50 ticket for crossing a road closed ahead sign (disregarding traffic control device) when my intention was to turn around and go back the way I came. And then of course letting traffic in front and behind of me go free. Apparently THEY didn't break the law, but I did somehow... when they went THROUGH and I merely TURNED AROUND. FUCKERS.

At least I had fun with paintballing, until I got back home and my GA dumped all its coolant again, and I have no coolant, and no way to go get coolant, and I'm stranded here thinking about this ridiculous ticket I shouldn't have to pay.

Oh and my parents/grandparents/uncles/aunts might lose the family business this week if the bank calls in their credit line, meaning my entire family is unemployed from a job that used to net six figures. Therefore we lose the house, and I either have to get my car fixed immediately with money I suddenly don't have or lease a car with my dad to cosign before he's labeled unemployed, and pay for THAT with money I don't have.

When will the shitstorm end?

FML :angryfire

Damn Vipey that does sound like a http://www.butterylicious.com/smilies/classic/shitstorm.gif !!

Sorry about all the bad kaos!! Man, I though I was the only one who had shit for luck. :eek7:

Where did you get that ticket, at home or in Lafayette ?
I'd fight that !!

Hope your luck turns around bro !

fight it dude, put that money into ur car and where ever you can...


http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/3200/shitstorm3390665.gif <--hahaha

fight it dude, put that money into ur car and where ever you can...


http://img44.imageshack.us/img44/3200/shitstorm3390665.gif <--hahaha

Some judges in the area are pissed at all the challenges so if you lose they automatically fine you the maximum amount allowed (TEN THOUSAND DOLLARS), so I'm a bit terrified to try to fight it... because I could buy a used late 80's corvette for that money... heh.

Fuckers are going to get my money no matter what I do. :crying:

Good news is I THINK I fixed my coolant leak... for $8. Coolant resevoir cap's o-ring was so expanded from years of liquid on it, it was looser than a $1 whore on 50% off night. I'm not even kidding, I could slip it over almost any part of the cap... which explains why it would selectively spill all over the place when I refilled coolant, or sometimes it would be fine...

either way, we'll see if this was the fix or not... and I'll just PRAY it was!

:runaround:

hope so bro! lol, sometimes it just happens to be the small things we overlook

Well hot damn. No more "check engine soon" light, no leaking coolant that I see... I think I fixed practically every issue (minus the window not rolling down of course) with $8. Holy s@#$! :runaround::biggrin:

Well hot damn. No more "check engine soon" light, no leaking coolant that I see... I think I fixed practically every issue (minus the window not rolling down of course) with $8. Holy s@#$! :runaround::biggrin:


that's friggen awesome if you did fix it for 8 bucks! I would be so happy with a fix like that!

Well hot damn. No more "check engine soon" light, no leaking coolant that I see... I think I fixed practically every issue (minus the window not rolling down of course) with $8. Holy s@#$! :runaround::biggrin:

That's great !! :D

After I had done my GTs head/LI gaskets it kept spewing coolant out the resivoir everytime I got on it, even just a little bit. I replaced the cap still didnt seal it up. Finaly just bought a new res. and cap that solved my overflo problem.

I starting to miss her! :crying:

What a day, Farrah Fawcett & Micheal Jackson both dead. :screwy:

What a day, Farrah Fawcett & Micheal Jackson both dead. :screwy:
With Ed McMahon passing away earlier in the week it kind of gives credence to the old theory that celebrities die in 3s doesn't it?


And from what Ive heard you also need a HD antanna, and an amplifier if you live more then 30-40 miles from the broadcast towers.
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You heard wrong JC..A basic antennae is all you need. We have a guy in our local paper who writes a column on tech stuff and he recently had an article dispelling the myths. In fact there are videos on youtube that show you how to make your own digital antennaes cheap. In some cases, an amplifier will be needed if you live a certain distance or other factors come into play.But they can be purchased cheaply at Wal Mart or other stores. I went out and got an indoor/outdoor Philips antennae for about $38. I attached it with a clamp to my entertainment center and aimed it towards my local broadcasting towers. Perfect reception :grinyes: ( it came with an amplifier that you attach the antennae cable to and plug it into a outlet.) I did have an outdoor antennae in my attic which worked fine for the 20+ years it's been there but I couldn't get my ABC affiliate with it for some reason. With the new antennae, I get a whole bunch of newer stations, some 60 miles away. (I'll look for that article concerning the myths and send you the link if I find it.)

You heard wrong JC..A basic antennae is all you need. We have a guy in our local paper who writes a column on tech stuff and he recently had an article dispelling the myths. In fact there are videos on youtube that show you how to make your own digital antennaes cheap. In some cases, an amplifier will be needed if you live a certain distance or other factors come into play.But they can be purchased cheaply at Wal Mart or other stores. I went out and got an indoor/outdoor Philips antennae for about $38. I attached it with a clamp to my entertainment center and aimed it towards my local broadcasting towers. Perfect reception ( it came with an amplifier that you attach the antennae cable to and plug it into a outlet.) I did have an outdoor antennae in my attic which worked fine for the 20+ years it's been there but I couldn't get my ABC affiliate with it for some reason. With the new antennae, I get a whole bunch of newer stations, some 60 miles away. (I'll look for that article concerning the myths and send you the link if I find it.)


Yeah I heard this last week that the old anteniis worked though you do need an amplifier if you live way out from the broadcast locations. One thing I dont like about it is when the weathers crap my sttellite goes out and i heard so does the HD channels. I used to use my vfh for those time now its not even woth paying $10 for a hd box.

Oh yeah, after further investigations, Micheal Jackson died from food poisoning. He'd been eating large quantities of 12 year old nuts. :lol:

that's crazy 2 celebs in one day without it being some catastrophic event like a car crash. after i had heard ed passed, I said farrah was next, and my guess for third was going to be Patrick Swayze. MJ was a bit of a shocker and that fact that no one knew at first if it was true or not made it odd.


Well on side topic I'm considering on selling my 88 Grand Am. I've come to the realization that I probably won't get to restore it and fix it up like I want and in the end it's not going to be worth a lot even if I do, so I'm at the point of making that very very hard decision. I know my bro-in-law wants it, but honestly I'd rather part it out then sell it to him. He's part of the reason why the car needs half the work it does and yet he keeps coming back to me asking if I want to sell it to him. :screwy: If you guys have any thoughts on what i should price it at let me know. Nada has it listed at $1050 for poor condition. The car isn't running at this second but the last time i charged up the battery it started right up no problem and no CEL.

It was pretty ironic they both died, MJ was a total shock! I would expect Patrick Swayze...David Carradine hung in his closet...strange days they are. I do think MJ was addicted to pain killers, those will shorten your life when used on a regular basis. This will be remembered as the year the actors died.

On a brighter note, your 88 GA grfnkl, ask high so they the buyer has talk down room. Makes them think they're getting a deal. :D

Damn ! Well we're up to five celleb deaths, Billy Mays the infomercial guy was found dead this morning in Tampa...

Guess their wont be any new annouying commercials. Oh yeah Billy Mays had a TLC show called Pitch Men. Wierd! :screwy:

Be carefull out there! :thumbsup:

Yeah he was just on the Tonight Show with C0onan O'Brien last week with the other pitchman touting their new series. It will be hard to fill his shoes .With the dawn of recent events it sure is a scary time to be a celebrity :screwy:.

preventive maintenance... make sure all your wheels are tightly snug!

Was driving 70 today and my entire car started to rumble! scary shit! lol... got home, and when I got my new tires they didnt put them on correctly... tightened up all of them for my own reason lol

:yikes: sounds scarry Gir !

Most shops over torq the lugs, thus warping your rotors.
On my receipt I have a disclaimer which says, "after 50-100 miles retorq your lugs to proper spec"
Yours should be torqued to 100ft lbs Gir.

Happy Independence day !

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:lol: How many people do you suppose read that on their receipts? Some shops remind their customers to followup on that and some don't.

I only used my arm strength lol, I dont have any way to check the tq of it, or a way to tq it down to the right amount lol... my neighbor has a wimpy air ratchet on battery that doesnt do a good job as I found... was loose lol

I check the lug nuts every 3 months, I have a Craftsmen click torque wrench that I use.

yeah most people may not read the receipt and see for the follow ups. lol I verbaly remind them but as Gir stated most people dont have a torq wrench handy.
Then can be pricey, Craftsman are good I have several of theirs.
I just dropped an exspensive one last year and broke it. Now trying to get it repaired rather then replace it.

Btw Gir, is it hot enough for you down there ?? Heats back on here after a big cool down last week.

Hope no one lost any fingers in the 4th festivities. Or burnt your neighbors house down. :eek:

I have 10 fingers and 10 toes and I have both of my eyes. So I am all good there.

heh yea, ive been dyin down here lol... 104f constantly .. its cooled down a little bit, but our AC unit went out.. its been 3 days/nights of hell so far.. 90F in my room! cant even have the tv or computer on it gets too hot lol.

My battery went dead and I put new one in and now my anti theft cd player (monsoon) is in the loc position. I dont no the code what to do. It is not fair that i got to pay for the security code.
My car is a 2002 pontiac grand am gt.

Hey badbones1298 I replied to your thread in car audio. ;)

Well the weeks almost over .... TG ! :uhoh:

fairly dead in here lol.... here's something to spice things up :D

Well, some of you may know Ken Block and his sick rally STI videos...

Here's a spoof of that from IMV Films lol - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh6HzUZuvPs

(10min video XI, worth the load wait ;) )

Its the base model 2.5rs impreza being ran into the dirt, drifted, slid across pavement and was abused by a auto paintball gun and fireworks lol, simply awesome

fairly dead in here lol.... here's something to spice things up :D

Well, some of you may know Ken Block and his sick rally STI videos...

Here's a spoof of that from IMV Films lol - http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kh6HzUZuvPs

(10min video XI, worth the load wait ;) )

Its the base model 2.5rs impreza being ran into the dirt, drifted, slid across pavement and was abused by a auto paintball gun and fireworks lol, simply awesome

:rofl: OMFG !!! That shit is hillarious !! :lol2: Makes me wanna get out and make some video(s)!! :evillol:

Canr beleve they were tearing it up with a 2004 subaru awd. To bad it wasnt a rental. :naughty::evillol:

I tried waiting on my PC(dialup) but wasnt successfull so I went to a friends with DSL. It was worth the drive, and wait !! :evillol:

I Bought one of those Magicjack's. It is excellent, the audio quality is very good. As long as you have a DSL line it will work out great. Also have it attached to a computer that you leave on all the time. I am very happy with it, I am glad I bought it well worth the money.

I Bought one of those Magicjack's. It is excellent, the audio quality is very good. As long as you have a DSL line it will work out great. Also have it attached to a computer that you leave on all the time. I am very happy with it, I am glad I bought it well worth the money.

Yeah Ive seen those commercials on tv, soudns to good to be true. lol Though I know a few peoples who have it now(with comcast)and they said it works better then comcast or vonage.
Cant beat that price, its $20 a year isnt it ?

One day I'll have a faster connection out there in the woods. lol
My satelite provider offers wild blue at a cut rate, might have to do that?! Well untill ATT gets off their ass'ss and installs those fiber-optics the government paid them hella money for. :mad:

Hope everyone had a great weekend! Mine was tits! :p

One day I'll have a faster connection out there in the woods. lol
My satelite provider offers wild blue at a cut rate, might have to do that?! Well untill ATT gets off their ass'ss and installs those fiber-optics the government paid them hella money for. :mad:

Fiber optic is great :biggrin: Verizon installed FiOS in our area 3 years ago and I get the 20 mbps download and 5 mbps upload service. Sure beats the old 27kbps dialup service I had. I'm in a rural area and cable is too expensive to run out our way due to lack of houses, and satellite internet was very costly. ( I have Directv and I think they wanted something like $500 to $600 to install the service and monthly costs were about $70 to $80 :eek: ) I'm now waiting for them to start up their FiOS TV service, hopefully later this year. Everything, including the phone, internet and tv service will come in to the house through the fiber optic cable.

Fiber optic is great :biggrin: Verizon installed FiOS in our area 3 years ago and I get the 20 mbps download and 5 mbps upload service. Sure beats the old 27kbps dialup service I had. I'm in a rural area and cable is too expensive to run out our way due to lack of houses, and satellite internet was very costly. ( I have Directv and I think they wanted something like $500 to $600 to install the service and monthly costs were about $70 to $80 :eek: ) I'm now waiting for them to start up their FiOS TV service, hopefully later this year. Everything, including the phone, internet and tv service will come in to the house through the fiber optic cable.

Not to be nosey, but what's the 20 mbps cost a month ?

I have Dish I think for the wild blue its $40-50 a month plus a $100 for professional install, I might be able to void that and install it myself.
Wild blue directly would be close to $100 or more a month, just like the Hughsnet. HN costs a lot for the install, around $200 and they wont let you install it yourself. :crying:

I swear, dialup used to be faster. :lol:

Yes it is $19.99 a year or it you pay up for 5 years it is $12 per year.
That is what I am waiting for too. I want fiber and I want it now.

maybe they're waiting for me to finish college so I can do it lol.. be in the hot sun, middle of farm land america laying down a thick ass heavy optic cable...

after the cable is laid down, they still gotta change out the routers and switches with faster new ones.... Technology is slowing coming lol

It took me close to 10 years to get DSL or high speed cable. Prior to that it was dial up and on a good day which was seldom. I would connect at 12k, most of the time it was at 1200K. Very painfully slow. Downloads took for ever, some took 24 hrs to complete.

and then people wonder what the flip happened to your phone.

Not to be nosey, but what's the 20 mbps cost a month ?

About $60/mo. I think they have specials once in awhile. Installation was free, and the router was free too. I read where the equipment they give you for free costs over $1000. I have this good sized box, they installed in my basement that handles my phone and internet, and hopefully later this year FiOS TV.It also contains a battery backup good for about 2 hrs. in case of a power outage, you can still use your phone, one issue digital phone has since it goes dead during a power outage, unlike a landline.
maybe they're waiting for me to finish college so I can do it lol.. be in the hot sun, middle of farm land america laying down a thick ass heavy optic cable...

after the cable is laid down, they still gotta change out the routers and switches with faster new ones.... Technology is slowing coming lol
If you don't mind me asking, where you live do they string the line on poles or bury it underground? In my area, it is generally strung up on telephone poles, but in some housing developments it is buried as there are no poles.I watched them back about 3 years ago when they brought the line down the road , installing it on the poles, quite a site. After they finished I had to wait about 3 months while they upgraded the switching station with the new equipment. My house is one of the farthest from our switching station and Verizon had told me it would've been useless to get DSL because of this as my speed would only be slightly higher than dialup, if that.
It took me close to 10 years to get DSL or high speed cable. Prior to that it was dial up and on a good day which was seldom. I would connect at 12k, most of the time it was at 1200K. Very painfully slow. Downloads took for ever, some took 24 hrs to complete.
:werd: Back when I bought my first computer in 2002, it came bundled with AOL. I had that during the free period and a little bit beyond,(They gave me more free time as there were so many issues with AOL and the then new Windows XP always clashing they felt sorry for me always calling their support :lol; ) Anyways, while I was with AOL, I was in their beta testing program and were one of the first to try out their new versions they were coming out with ( 8.0 then eventually 9.0 ) Whenever there was a new version to try out or a major update, I would have to download it, which could take up to a day to do because it was so large. I used to leave the computer on all night and hope the connection would stay and allow it to fully download. Even simple programs and updates took so long. God I do not miss those days.

and then people wonder what the flip happened to your phone.
Funny you should say that, everyone always says, "where were you?? I called and it just rang and rang ?" :lol:

About $60/mo. I think they have specials once in awhile. Installation was free, and the router was free too. I read where the equipment they give you for free costs over $1000. I have this good sized box, they installed in my basement that handles my phone and internet, and hopefully later this year FiOS TV.It also contains a battery backup good for about 2 hrs. in case of a power outage, you can still use your phone, one issue digital phone has since it goes dead during a power outage, unlike a landline.

That's not a bad price for that. Yeah I bet the system equipment is expessive for either fiberoptics-FO or the sattelite internet. I know those who work on FO make killer money, even out this way in the BFE. All FO in this area is burried or soon will be. The tubes it goes in have been in the ground since 1997. :shakehead:

maybe they're waiting for me to finish college so I can do it lol.. be in the hot sun, middle of farm land america laying down a thick ass heavy optic cable...

after the cable is laid down, they still gotta change out the routers and switches with faster new ones.... Technology is slowing coming lol

My exbrothernlaw works on FO only, on call 24/7/365, and is one of only 2-3 people who know how to connect and repair damaged FO within a 500-600 miles range of here, so he does do some driving. The job comes with all sorts of pirks, comp truck, free phones, laptop, etc etc.. He's a dick btw! :lol:

Back when I bought my first computer in 2002, it came bundled with AOL. I had that during the free period and a little bit beyond,(They gave me more free time as there were so many issues with AOL and the then new Windows XP always clashing they felt sorry for me always calling their support :lol; ) Anyways, while I was with AOL, I was in their beta testing program and were one of the first to try out their new versions they were coming out with ( 8.0 then eventually 9.0 ) Whenever there was a new version to try out or a major update, I would have to download it, which could take up to a day to do because it was so large. I used to leave the computer on all night and hope the connection would stay and allow it to fully download. Even simple programs and updates took so long. God I do not miss those days.


Yeah downloading large files on dialup sucks! I know even some XP updates take forever. Thing that realy sucks for me is my ISP resets their servers every 12hrs so you get booted offline. Thank god for download programs! Torrents a great too! I downloaded a 2 GB movie a while back, Tokyo Gore Police, it only took a week and a half. :rofl:

Have a great weekend everyone!

Aol=aohell, I had a program that would keep me online until the file was downloaded and no errors. I had AOL, then I switched to Earthlink. Then finally got Comcast for internet and TV, dumped Comcast, and went to AT&T for DSL.

If you don't mind me asking, where you live do they string the line on poles or bury it underground? In my area, it is generally strung up on telephone poles, but in some housing developments it is buried as there are no poles.I watched them back about 3 years ago when they brought the line down the road , installing it on the poles, quite a site. After they finished I had to wait about 3 months while they upgraded the switching station with the new equipment. My house is one of the farthest from our switching station and Verizon had told me it would've been useless to get DSL because of this as my speed would only be slightly higher than dialup, if that.

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As long as you live anywhere in the US, you'll have underground cabling :D, if I'm not mistaken there are some stretching across the pacific and atlantic oceans, with also the use of satellites we communicate with the rest of the world lol



oh yea, its my birthday today :D

I live right in the middle of a triangle dead zone. It would realy suck to live in the upper midwest, no service for them! :lol:

I remember when I first got dialup I could have 4-5 windows open all loading at the same time and rather quickly. Now If I tried that none of them would probly load just get a "page no found" error. :(

Hey, Happy Bday Gir !!

As long as you live anywhere in the US, you'll have underground cabling :D, if I'm not mistaken there are some stretching across the pacific and atlantic oceans, with also the use of satellites we communicate with the rest of the world lol


Yeah, that part I knew, what I should have said was if the new cable they were installing was going underground, or on a pole. One would think with technology and resources available today the line would be installed underground as much as possible. This minimizes the chance that a storm could come along and take down the network, or sabotage, etc. The main excuse in my area that they still install the lines on the poles is that it's cheaper. I'd rather spend a little more money now and know that it's done than having to do it in the future. But it's weird how some sections in my area, the cable is buried, while in others it's strung up on the pole.
I read an article a few years back commenting on the fact that the US still relies on stringing cable up on poles whereas many third world countries have invested the time and money to bury their cable, which is generally considered to be better.
Another article I read about 20 years ago stated that the cables that stretch across the oceans have to be maintained constantly because of the fact that the continents are still moving and sometimes a cable is in danger of breaking due to this, and among other dangers outlines in this article I came across : http://www.popsci.com/scitech/article/2009-03/who-protects-intrnet

Stoners outnumber drunks on road (http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Insurance/InsureYourCar/more-stoners-on-roads-than-drunks.aspx) :yikes:

Stoners outnumber drunks on road (http://articles.moneycentral.msn.com/Insurance/InsureYourCar/more-stoners-on-roads-than-drunks.aspx) :yikes:

...and using a cellphone while driving (http://www.tgdaily.com/content/view/43337/97/) is just as bad as driving drunk!