Seriously OT: Whoring Galore here in Part 4!

They called it right as I was typing that last comment. And now McCain has conceded, so it's official.

That makes my 4 years.

Everyone around here is afraid of having a black president... then again, they're also afraid that the Amish are eventually going to take over America, since they don't pay taxes and work twice as hard as the average american at laborious jobs.

I find it amusing... half of these people are obese and collect some form of government check, usually either welfare or social security b/c they have some "disability".

I'm hoping, that under Obama, they'll tighten the disability rulings. Half of these people aren't disabled, they're just too fat to get around as easily as, say, a healthy, non-obese person. How is that a disability?

Laziness is not an illness.

I have to admit I do share their fear of the Amish. They come up to the local mall in our area. Complete with horse and buggy. I'm not kidding.

They're all over out here... it's PA... Amish country. I've worked for them, I've worked alongside them, etc. They're not taking anything over. If you want someone that can take something over, check out the Mennonites. They're only Amish when it's convenient for them.

That is to say that there are about 500 different sects of Mennonites in this area alone. Some can drive, some have electricity, some even program computers. But they still don't pay taxes. Get that shit.

I don't worry about either one though, There aren't enough to take over this state, let alone the country.. and it's not like people are converting to Amish or Mennonite religions... they're actually converting FROM those ideals.

By the way, everything around here actually has tie-off points for horses. It's like the old west. Even the streets that are wide enough to park a horse and buggy on still have rings on the parking meters.

Yes, they pay for parking.

and you have to look at the # of electorial votes associated with the states that were won

Eh, McCain conceded last night... that was the best thing I'd heard all week.

Lol somebody sent that to me in an IM last night.. ironic.

Wow... let the racially inspired comments begin.. lol.

you asked for it.

http://i253.photobucket.com/albums/hh56/NevadaWildcard/LoveBeingWhite.jpg

I keed I keed :P

OMFG! :rofl:
http://www.swagdog.com/store/pc/catalog/335010000001DM.jpg

http://uspolitics.about.com/od/elections/i/election_fraud.htm

Just found this on my Gmail news channel.... Caption was "Should we worry about election fraud?"

And this was on my local craigslist:

http://harrisburg.craigslist.org/cto/907674272.html

I think this should be added to the FAQ and the guidelines.

http://www.albinoblacksheep.com/flash/posting

well here's the finished swap...motor is all wired up nicely and engine bay is cleaned up a little...ran into some snags getting it tuned and running, but it's all good now...also a clip of the exhaust

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/blucivic1/DSCN0757.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v248/blucivic1/th_DSCN0754.jpg (http://smg.photobucket.com/albums/v248/blucivic1/?action=view&current=DSCN0754.flv)

What's up, all? Just popped in for a bit. Can't stay long cuz I'm at work.
Not much going on in turtle's world. Driving the KIA. It's a decent car. Has Eibach springs and a K&N filter. I'm just biding my time until my mid-life crisis car which will probably be an S-2000 with the F20 (-2002).

Anyway, looks like CivicJim got himself a nice R32. Pretty cool...

Laterz,
Turtle

I wish I could say I'd have an S2000... I'm happy to get an '86 CR-X Si in near mint condition other than the swap not running... I got it "Free" too...

I traded a turbo for a rear disc swap, got a motor/tranny and some other stuff as a bonus.

I just traded the motor/tranny (D16A6) for the car w/ a D16A1 swapped in, not running (kid can't figure out the wiring). Which is fine, b/c when I get a title for it, it will be recon in PA, meaning I can use carbs... IC's.

Hilbourne Injection FTW!

Hey blu, where are you located there in NC? Ill be up in the hope mills, fayetteville, ft bragg area for thanksgiving. My parents have a house up there that my grandparents live in and we are going to visit them around that time. Unfortunately I wont have my turbo setup done by then or id be more than willing to bring my car.. and blow your doors off. Although I admit I am jealous of your jdm-ness.

Hey blu, where are you located there in NC? Ill be up in the hope mills, fayetteville, ft bragg area for thanksgiving. My parents have a house up there that my grandparents live in and we are going to visit them around that time. Unfortunately I wont have my turbo setup done by then or id be more than willing to bring my car.. and blow your doors off. Although I admit I am jealous of your jdm-ness.

i'm in Durham...about an hour from Fayetteville...i'm supposed to be heading to SC for the holidays and head through that area on my way down there

why u gotta have a turbo to blow my doors off :tongue:

thinking about this
http://www.explicitspeedperformance.net/TheEFH22AHowTo.html

That engine shot of the ED/DA H22A looks like someone stuffed Mr. T into a pickle jar. Plain and simple.

I'm getting really anxious about this dude coming to drop off my car today.. He's bringing me a "nearly mint" '86 CR-X Si... I've only seen cell phone pics of the car, and I don't know much about it... other than he didn't/couldn't finish the D16A1 swap in it. He's not sure on the wiring, so I'm hoping he didn't touch it at all.

Anyway, even if I have to fix half the car to get it right, it doesn't matter, I'm getting it free. (Essentially) And I have two other D16A1 engines to use in it if something goes wrong. w00t me!

I'm just hoping I don't get underneath it and start finding rusty floors... there isn't any on the visible body surfaces.

I wish I could say I'd have an S2000... I'm happy to get an '86 CR-X Si in near mint condition other than the swap not running... I got it "Free" too...
I'd take a mint '86 CR-X over an S2000 any day. That may sound crazy, but I'm actually serious.

Just got the phone call, he'll be here in 1/2 an hour.

Spoon- frankly, so would I. But it's nice to think about having something like an S2000... I'd rather have a BMW M3 or M5 or a Z3, honestly, than a S2000... or even a CRX. Those are my cars of choice... but 5k for a 20 year old car is a lil excessive IMO... especially given the reliability of older BMW's.

I'll wait until I'm working steadily again, then I may take on a used one in the '98 year range... make payments on it or something, and just pay more than I have to each month to get it paid off quicker in case I get laid off again... that car will be babied like it's a freakin [insert thing you can't afford in your wildest dreams here], and since my wife and I both quit smoking, noone will be allowed to smoke in it either. I'm already that way with her GP, even though it's a POS.

Anxious isn't the word right now... I want this car to be as perfect as this guy made it sound. Fuck, I just want this car.

I'm doing a clutch job on an Evo X this weekend. So far we've gotten to the point of being ready to take out the transfer case and then the transmission. Believe me when I say that this car is a pain in the ass to work on. If it was an Evo 8 or 9, it'd be apart already. The more I see this car, the more I hate it.

The owner of the car just bought a new car to drive as his "winter rat". It's a freaking '08 Mugen Civic Si!!! :banghead:

That damn EVO should be his "winter rat". Fucking stupid people...

Lets drive the 2 wheel drive, "more power than it really needs or should have to be driving in the snow" car, instead of the all wheel drive easily down-tunable goodness that comes stock from mitsubishi...

Anyway, car just showed up... first impression, IT'S DIRTY. It sat under a tree for about a year, so there's alot of black shit all over it.. Easily taken care of. There is some damage to the plastic panels, obviously, it's an '86. I also got a B18A1 block and crank with it, for another thing I've been working on getting together.

I can see where some wiring was cut, as the D16A1 that was used was the electronic advance version (118 HP, 88-89 motor). So there is some rewiring necessary and addition of wiring necessary to make the engine run... which is crappy. I'll probably be rebuilding the head from my browntop and putting it on, so I don't have to use all the electronic advance crap.

good deal :)

I'm going to start a build thread for it on RPR.. Still thinking of how I wanna go about it, since I have to get a title for it anyway.. I have to look some laws up about it, but I may end up gutting the wiring and going w/ a individual carb/vacuum advance setup.

It has a true sunroof... no glass. And it's powered.

Don't want to be the bearer of bad news, but even if there isn't any rust showing in the normal spots, check the corners of the floor pan and the pan hard bar mount. Those are the 2 main places those cars will rust at first, not the quarters.

I hope its clean and no rust repair needed, but atleast check the PHB mount.

I did a quick "peek under the car" check at those spots, since I knew that from my last 1st gen. It was a sweet car... the donor car was all sorts of rusted, but looked ABSOLUTELY CHERRY until you LOOKED at it.

The conspicuous panels on the car had no rust, the paint was like showroom condition for it's age, and the fenders and header panel weren't cracked or anything.

Then: It had no floors, front or rear. PHB mount was gone, completely. PHB was removed, guy was driving the car like that. He'd go around a corner on the highway and see the rear end poke out 6 inches to the inside of the corner b/c the body was trying to fall off the axle.

THAT is why it was the donor car... sold whatever sheet metal I could, took all the suspension/k-frame components, interior, etc, and ditched the body. I literally flipped it over on my own and took the rest of the parts off the bottom..

I sold the glass, but the kid never showed up to pick it up, so I gave it to another guy I knew at the time. (The 1/4 windows)

I'd take a mint '86 CR-X over an S2000 any day. That may sound crazy, but I'm actually serious.


Why?

The s2k is a whole other class. I wish I would have picked one up sooner.

I would love to have one. Im not sure that I would give up my civic to own one but I would be a happy man if I had both.

Why?

The s2k is a whole other class. I wish I would have picked one up sooner.
For the power it has, I don't think it's worth the price. Even for a '00 S2000, it still costs $10,000-12,000, for only 240hp & 153 ft-lbs tq. You could save up a couple thousand extra and find a '91 NSX, for a similar price range. But an '86 CR-X is a classic. In the summer time, I see at least one S2000 every single day. I remember seeing a pre-'88 CR-X once since I've been in to cars. And there are so many other, older & cheaper, RWD cars I'd rather spend my money on, if that's what I was after. Basically, I'd rather buy a cheaper car and modify it, than to buy a car and not have any money left to spend on it. I'm the type of person who will never go out and buy a brand new car, I personally don't see the point in it (unless I win the lottery). I'm not trying to knock the car, I'm just personally not all that impressed with it, on paper (reading the specs and such, because I've never driven one before).

For the power it has, I don't think it's worth the price. Even for a '00 S2000, it still costs $10,000-12,000, for only 240hp & 153 ft-lbs tq. You could save up a couple thousand extra and find a '91 NSX, for a similar price range. But an '86 CR-X is a classic. In the summer time, I see at least one S2000 every single day. I remember seeing a pre-'88 CR-X once since I've been in to cars. And there are so many other, older & cheaper, RWD cars I'd rather spend my money on, if that's what I was after. Basically, I'd rather buy a cheaper car and modify it, than to buy a car and not have any money left to spend on it. I'm the type of person who will never go out and buy a brand new car, I personally don't see the point in it (unless I win the lottery). I'm not trying to knock the car, I'm just personally not all that impressed with it, on paper (reading the specs and such, because I've never driven one before).


Must be the demographics.

You make it sound like owning a S2k makes you broke. In the past ten years, I have owned everything from my first Honda which was a 87' CRX, on up with the ED's EG's EK's and my current AP. All the money I spent on any one car, never gave me the shit eating grin the AP does. On paper any car can look bland and boring. If you get the chance to really drive one, even in stock form, I would take the chance.

oh dear.. I believe I've started something here...

My comment wasn't to say that I'd never have one, or that I prefer one over the other, rather, I can't afford an S2k, even the fuel it burns, so I don't own one... I've never even had the chance to drive one, but if I could afford one or the other, my choice (even not having driven either) would still lie in the BMW.

I have had to chance to ride in a few at an autocross. And even in stock form with soem sticky tires it literally scared the living shit outta me. The same sections I was taking at 35-40mph, this dude was taking at 60-65... and my god the torque. It doesnt seem like alot on paper but it is plenty enough to bend the car to your will, and they are so damn neutral..steering with the throttle is something you can do without even thinking about it and the car just plain sticks to the road with no intent to let go, until you give it a little punch that is..and then your hanging the ass end out like a pro.

our si with the c5 will hang if not pull on a s2k (depending on the s2k driver).....in a straight line. not the same story in corners.

our si with the c5

did i miss something:confused:

About 4 or 5 years I suppose yeah you prolly did lol.

http://a667.ac-images.myspacecdn.com/images01/31/l_b7d88ee8bbd9e3cf964963ebbb6863ca.jpg

That looks so... at home. Don't the GSR's stick out the bottom though? (Hang too low)

Its not really a GSR though so I dunno if itd be different. I mean its got the head of a b16 anyway.

i remember every other car but not that one...is it Jer's?

The diff in the GSR motor that causes it to stick out on the bottom is the deck height... has nothing to do w/ the head.

I have had a few cars that could pull on S2k's, as well as others, in a straight line.

But, the S2k was designed with corners in mind. It sure beats my 19 year old ED, in pretty much any aspect.

http://automotiveforums.com/kris/kris/misc_stuff/civic/12_24/civic19.JPG

http://automotiveforums.com/kris/kris/misc_stuff/F20B/DSCN3343.JPG

our 1993 Legend will also pull on a S2K if at rolling start or dropping a gear in motion. again, corners would kill the Legend.

it's a cool lux. car...but because it's all fancy (LoL) it has the dual mass flywheel which makes for a smooth start. that car CAN NOT launch. for it's size it's nimble...but again nothing can compare to the S2K.

i'm PTA president. I get to run the school's fundraiser. week 1 is done. 1 week to go. I am so over counting jerky & money. i'm also over taking $160-457 on a daly basis to the bank in mostly small bills and quarters :banghead:

I thought about getting a legend for a DD after selling off my 4g4d... I just want something I can feel safe having my son (or daughter.. I guess it could go either way...) in.

My Civ is definitely not it... and since the '86 CR-X Si is probably going to carry me into mid-life, I might consider leaving the 4g scene altogether, unless I can get a 2g CRX, that way I can have the family... the 1g w/ individual carbs, the 2g w/ ITB's.

BTW, if anyone knows of a dumped CARB'D CBR 929 or 939, I need the carbs off it... preferably under $200. I could use the stock fuel pump too, but I guess I can mod something for that. They have to be CARBS tho... I don't want ITB's on this Si, I'm removing all the factory EFI stuff. (At least that's the first impression... I haven't torn into it yet, so I'm only about 86% on that decision.)

Also, based on the look of the intake, I'm pretty sure it's a ZC1 motor... not a D16A1.. if it is, score for me. I could sell it and finance most of the replacement parts on the project.. not that I would.

I'll find out for sure if it's a ZC1 tomorrow, since I haven't had a chance to move enough dirt and soil to check the block ID tag.

wouldn't mind getting a nice black on black 4-dr Legend...love those cars but hard to find one in good condition

I've seen quite a few decent legends that only needed minimal work, stuff like new brakes, suspension, etc... to be expected for a car that old..

I'M NOT RESPONSIBLE FOR THE RANTINGS FROM HERE ON... SERIOUSLY, YOU DON'T HAVE TO READ THIS PART.

Surprisingly, as long as you're not looking for a Civic, Prelude, MR2, shit like that, you can find some really REALLY clean rides around here, and even the ones that are modded are at least tasteful... they're not all ricey and shit.. but there's a SHIT-TON of nasty ass, busted up, fucked over, rebuilt, half-assed, wanna-be, "I'll call it fast, but then I'll drive in the other direction so I don't have to show you how slow it really is", stickered up, body kitted with a god-load of bond-o, hacked wiring harness, VAFC 2.0 on a stock engine type of shit around here.

Basically, you can't find most 2nd gen CR-X's around here for less than $1000 for the shell alone.. that's not guaranteeing that it's even worth bothering with. It may or may not have:

Interior, full or otherwise
Engine, again, full or otherwise
Tranny, same as above (I've seen them with half the gearbox housing.. no gears.)
Chassis-side mounts (early b-series installs... cut and weld, but never welded.)
Wiring, any or all of it, or it could be from something else entirely, swapped and failed.
Gauges, consoles, (I guess this fits with the interior)
partial suspension (if any, and this includes spindles/knuckles)
body panels (including 1/4 panels cut out)
firewall (one rare case I came across, cut it out for a RHD swap, but couldn't weld, and never budgeted for anyone to help... then "lost" the LHD firewall.)
A title or even VIN numbers (I'd seen a few with grinder marks where there should have been a VIN... walked.. no, RAN away.I've come across 4th gen hookers with all those for conditions, and the people that had them STILL wanted over $800 for them.

Particularly, the one w/o the VIN tags... I checked the car over pretending to look for rust... it had NO tags.. not even the stickers. This one, was swapped to a B16A from a '99 Si, using VAFC (note above) but was otherwise "clean". Except two weeks later, it was busted in a street race, and catalogged... they found the engine/tranny were stolen, the VAFC was stolen (someone was smart enough to tag it...) basically, the car was assembled from stolen parts... That dude apparently was stealing Hondas from Rochester and Binghamton NY, and driving them back to somewhere close to my hometown... where his father/grandfather had a sludge pond out back... parting them out, and burying the chassis... they "recovered" like 14 chassis' from what I heard.. from the pond... they're still investigating like 30 more.


All that said, I think I might get an Accord or something... They're a lil closer to my pockets, usually.

Beater/Winter Toy
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a400/1PhatCX/DSC05703-1.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a400/1PhatCX/DSC07613.jpg

Summer Toy
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a400/1PhatCX/DSC06570.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a400/1PhatCX/DSC06585.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a400/1PhatCX/dragging1.jpg
http://i15.photobucket.com/albums/a400/1PhatCX/n512595829_875533_2902.jpg

i believe the redneck in someone has fully emerged :p

Almost traded for a 90 crx SI today... Almost entirely stock, had some flaws but I could probably deal with them. But then I thought abotu what it took to make my car "mine" and I just couldnt part. He was even willing to let me keep my wheels, my s300 and possibly the engine. I just dont have the time or the energy to do two engine swaps in a short amount of time. The only thing that made me turn away was the flat black paint job and a hole from rust on the inner side of the quarter panel in between the hatch and the 1/4. All on flat metal, none visible without the hatch open..it was kind of in the drip rail but likely fixable. They at least sprayed the door jambs and the rear interior but left the engine bay white. The car has noname coils and stock blown shocks. It did have a set of GC upper mounts that I want and the interior was for the most part flawless. Ac worked and blew cold for about 30 sec~ then would blow hot, no biggie. Sunroof didnt open, but wasnt rusty.

Really if the body was in better shape (the one rust spot) id be hard pressed to turn it down.

I dunno if you guys can see the pics. If not I can host them.
http://www.tamparacing.com/forums/cars-sale-wanted/524921-1990-crx-si-f-s-2200-obo.html
Oh, and dear lord was it different to drive a 4g with a quiet exhaust! I could hear the damn intake!~

intake makes noise?

Haha.. yes intakes make noise. Like this http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cU-StOgD5u4

Fuck yeah, I love intake noise... it's the best noise your car can make.... I'm going to make a recording of it on my wife's car... it's sexy.

ugh life sucks. i fucking hate being alone. i've lost interest in everything. i cant believe she is really gone.


on a better note i guess... i'm finally selling a few parts, and it looks like i might be able to get a new exhaust for my hatch.

If you had purchased $1,000 of AIG stock one year ago, you would have$42 left. With Lehman, you would have $6.60 left. With Fannie orFreddie, you would have less than $5 left. But if you had purchased$1,000 worth of beer or soda one year ago, drank all of the beer or soda thenturned in the cans for the aluminum recycling REFUND, you would have had $214.

Based on the above, the best current investment advice is to drinkheavily and recycle.

It's called the 401-Keg.....

Stumbled across this link today. Crazy stuff.
http://ecomodder.com/forum/fuel-economy-mpg-modifications.php