3000gt's/Stealth very own off topic thread: 3rd chapter

i didnt even listen to cash b4 he died so it's like, shit now i gotta look up everything on the net to see what old and whats new. if he were still alive when he released a new cd his past on's would b talked about.

color: blue. still looking for a blue stealth tho. i'll b ready to sell the 944 in like 4 months so, i should have another stealth or even 3k relitivly soon. by spring i hope, and i'll also have the 92 fixed and pretty much perfect. tho some lady hit the left fender and scratched it down to the metal

ring of fire's a classic, but i think my favorite of his would have to be either Folson prison blues or tennessee flat top box

Country music makes me kill people.

Metal makes me happiez.

Tyler you are in school right now aren't you? lol (MZR)

My buddy's band plays Ring of Fire, and the energy they put in it makes it awesome.

Alright I've got a story that a few of you may get a kick out of lol. So last night I was headed home from my buddies house and as I'm about 1 mile or so away this annoying Honda Del Sol with an after market exhaust comes up and keeps trying to race me. I refuse as I am tired and don't have much fuel left and really didn't want to use it up on a Del Sol. Anyway, we hit a stop light and my radar detector pops up a Ka alert (cop radar). So I look over at the guy and give the VR4 a rev. This guy winds his damb car up like he is trying out for the next F&F and the light turns green and he is off to the races as I calmly start out in 1st. Sure enough a cop comes over the hill, flips around and pulls him over lol. I felt bad but it was entertaining lol.

Alright I've got a story that a few of you may get a kick out of lol. So last night I was headed home from my buddies house and as I'm about 1 mile or so away this annoying Honda Del Sol with an after market exhaust comes up and keeps trying to race me. I refuse as I am tired and don't have much fuel left and really didn't want to use it up on a Del Sol. Anyway, we hit a stop light and my radar detector pops up a Ka alert (cop radar). So I look over at the guy and give the VR4 a rev. This guy winds his damb car up like he is trying out for the next F&F and the light turns green and he is off to the races as I calmly start out in 1st. Sure enough a cop comes over the hill, flips around and pulls him over lol. I felt bad but it was entertaining lol.

rofl...that is fuckin Evil

but yes, funny and entertaining all the same :evillol:

on another note, i inadvertantly drifted my car half way around the small traffic circle in the center of town today. I dont usually drive through it, so i didnt realize it was more oval/football-shaped than circular...anyways, good song was on the radio, so i was driving kind of aggressively...tried to pull it in tight when i noticed it was a little sharper than i though, and the back end just stepped right out. and stayed out until i let off completely and turned to make my exit.
It actually had me kind of concerned because until now i have NEVER broke traction in this car...even in the wet. I stopped and checked to make sure all my tires were aired up all the way. there's no sort of suspension issue that would cause this, is there? everything seems solid when i rock the car.
I'm wondering if maybe there was some oil on the road or something, because it just seemed to slide way too easy. It was dry, but the road is kind of a slick worn down surface. Very fun and manageable though. At no point did i feel out of control.
BTW, plenty of tread on the tires, too.

well that sounds like it was fun. it's too dark for me to look, but r any of the suspension parts held on by hanging brackets...like they hang off another suspension part. i know on the 944 my front sway bar is, and when one broke it was hell to make a turn controlably.

only issue with traction i've ever had was in snow...i think most of u know what happened.

music wise, dont really like country, i like rock or metal, linkin park, korn, breaking benjamin.

how's the vr4?

Blink you probably experienced an adverse effect of the AWS.

Basicall AWS had engaged then suddenly snapped back causing the "drift"

SL3000GT (whos name is also now a lie): That is freaken evil but I think everyone should do that once:evillol:

Blink: I think that is probably normal...or to a certain extent. Me and 701-3kgt broke his verfer loose around a corner kind of on accident and it felt very in control and just snapped back when he let off.

On a different note, I started college today. Staying in town and going to the college here for a year then transfering to North Dakota State University next year.

Also, I took my car to the dealer today to get it flashed to the GM stage 2 tune (had the ZZP tune) because it has been missfiring horribly and throwing a lean code (caused by the intake/MAF). So they flashed the ECU and it still misfired...not quite as bad though. Turns out my intake is actually too free-flowing...so my car is getting TOO much air...who knew? :licka:

SL, that is f*ckin' great bro!!! LMFAO I was on the ground laughing...LITERALLY!!! :p

not a huge korn fan. linkin park's older stuff was good. breaking benjamin rocks.
the VR4 is fine. in fact, if you were watching you would have though it was intentional, lol. Very graceful entry and exit.

Stealthee: now that you say that i was slowing through that 30mph mark to try and make the turn...that's gotta make for some fun on an autocross track :rolleyes:

torched: congrats on college man...it'll be a blast lol. That's strange about the intake...i didnt think that was possible. I would think the MAF would take care of that.

honostly i liked korn's album issues, but since then didnt like anything, then i bout their album from july 07, and liked that. it just depends on my mood i guess. linkin park, i like the older stuff more, but i do agree with chester and mike, they can't make a trilogy of nu metal, rap/rock mix, it's not new to them, other bands have copied it and sold it. they had to change. i do miss the rap tho.

i woulda thought the aws didnt snap back into position, just gradually went to lock...that's gotta b kinda dangerous to inexperienced drivers

i woulda thought the aws didnt snap back into position, just gradually went to lock...that's gotta b kinda dangerous to inexperienced drivers

oh i'm sure it's not an instant snap back...but when your going around a turn and already have the tires loaded up and near their limit, it's probably enough to break em loose a bit. it wasn't a huge, tail hanging slide, but the back end was definitely loose for a good 200 feet, maybe more, until i turned the wheels back and let off the gas completely to take my turnoff. If i had to guess, i'd say the back end was maybe 2' out at the most.

Maybe i'll go through again tomarrow and try to get it to happen again :icon16:

are we retarded to try and find where the limits of the 3/s r?

i mean blink WANTS to have it snap back out on him...i mean sure its kinda fun, but wtf.

i dont think knowing the limits of your car is retarded at all. I would rather find out what they are in a controlled situation than in an emergency.

wanting to do it again is because i want to find out if it does indeed have anything to do with the AWS...or if i was just at my tires limits...of if maybe the road conditions were the decisive factor.

Its definitely a good thing to know the limits of the car. I've pushed my car to beyond its limits at times. If I ever have to escape a situation quickly I know how hard I can push th car and remain on the road.

well yes, i agree it is smart to know the limits of the car u drive.

i doubt u were at ur tires limits. u were going 30.

imma agree with stealthee, mite have been aws going back into position.

Beh, school starting agian sucks. What doesn't suck though is I have seen 3 new Challengers (2 orange, 1 black). They are so sick looking.

I saw two of them suckers up here too, one orange one black. Not sure where they came from but daaaaayum.

30mph doesnt strike me as a VR-4's limit. AWS trying to kill you FTW!

My old car went well past its limits... And so has this one. Apparently having a busted intercooler pump can blow your engine in a single pull...

I went to the track, did several 130mph + runs including the 145mph race me and Torched had... and it still didnt break. Lucky son of a bitch maybe, or God has a much more spectacular way for me to die.

Korn sucks. That is all.

i've only seen one challenger down here. in black. pics dont do them justice...that's a mean looking machine.

Havn't got to hit the loop again yet, but i'll probably do it tomarrow. I'll let you guys know.

Yeah Ive seen one orange challenger...sick as hell

Tyler, there is no reason on God's green earth that your honda should still be alive...or have had to go through the shit we put it through:rofl:

seen an orange and a black one. my dad went and test drove one the other day....WITHOUT ME!!!!!!!!!!! wtf!!!!

he's been looking at either the challenger or g8...yea yea 2dr muscle or 4dr family muscle. he's not sure what point in life he's at...personally i think he's at the 2dr...but i was thinking more like a vette that he's always wanted. yes, just so i can drive it every once in a while. other than an 85 c4 i've never driven one. and that was no different than driving an sl in terms of power

seen an orange and a black one. my dad went and test drove one the other day....WITHOUT ME!!!!!!!!!!! wtf!!!!

he's been looking at either the challenger or g8...

that's a tough decision, but in the end the Challenger SRT-8 would take it for 3 reasons;

The styling is better. I like how it looks, but the G8 is basically just a tarted-up sedan when you get right down to it.

Uniquness and memorability. Years from now, people will still know exactly what the challenger is when it rumbles by. The G8 has much more competition, and it's not nearly as much of a stand-out in it's class.

Then, there's the possible collectors value. With chrysler's current woes, it may be the last sports car of any kind they make. They are discontinuing (or selling) the viper, and the new owners (Cerberus Management) have said that they will make all Chryslers hybrids in the very near future. If these thing hold to be true, the value of the car should remain strong.

Not to mention that it's actually a well made car with a good interior...not that the G8 isn't, but it's just something that's not often said of recent chrysler products.

they're not getting rid of the viper. they wanna change it a lil. sales and what it really is. the reason they though about doing it was because they only sold 480-something in 07. but what they don't tell u is that the factory was closed for 6-8 months in 07 for machines to be built for the new hardtop and the new 600hp engine. they also would like to bring the viper back to the idea of back to basics roadster(while keeping the gts) basically no ac, no power windows, no cd player, and no leather...and drop the price a lil bit.

my dad doesnt think the way we do. he's 58 in november. he's looking to get a car that'll last. he has the 67 buick riviera, and his olds intruge. he wants to finish the buick(thank god) and sell both olds and buick to put a downpayment on his "dream car", which has always been a vette. he had a 57 in 1970's, and would like to get the c6. his big issue, he has issues getting in the stealth sometimes, new vettes sit a lil lower. his other big issue, he's a baby boomer...doesn't like foreign cars...tho he like's the stealth ;), just doesnt relize mitsu built it

i'm not saying we dont look for cars to last, but we're at a point in life where if it lasts 5yrs awsome, we'll get another when it goes.

chrysler has already officially said they are going to discontinue the viper after the '09 production run, but you can get the most recent news here (http://www.autoblog.com/2008/08/27/report-chrysler-may-sell-the-dodge-viper-rather-than-kill-it/). Now there's unofficial word that they may sell it instead.

no1 would buy it. ford would b the only hope, but they probably don't have the extra money, and they don't have a v10 to put in it, and no1's buying a viper w/o a 10cyl.

ooo...porsche. they could buy it. they could use a new 2dr front engine rwd sports car. plus i dont think they are keeping the 911 past the next generation. they'll likely make a panamera 2dr to take the 911 place.

i don't want chrysler to get rid of the viper, that'd b like killing the nsx. held as the halo, invested millions into it, and then let it only last a few yrs...yes the viper is my dream car.

The Viper is all but dead after 2011. There is nothing anyone can do about it either.

i think the most likely buyer would be a tuning company...like ACR.

if it dies, it will be a sad day for the US automotive industry. Viper is truely an automotive icon. But, i guess, i would rather see it die than see chrysler gradually water it down with smaller engines and mushy suspension. or, god forbid, a hybrid version :eek:

if i can ever afford it, i will buy a viper. A white GTS with blue stripes.
i suppose killing it would be good for the used market value.

Hey, does anyone have a good link with pics on a step-by-step boost gauge and MBC install. I get the basics of hooking up two equal vaccum lines going from each wastegate acuator into a T, into the MBC, and into the plenum. I'm still unsure of if I can hook the boost gauge line into the same line that my MBC is connected to.

CONGRATS JASON AND JOCE!!! :biggrin:

oh was today the day? congratulations bro!

CONGRATS JASON AND JOCE!!! :biggrin:


Thanks bro!! It was Fantastic!! I am Freakin Married!!! I have a Wife.. lol

Thanks greg!!

Jason

I am Freakin Married!!! I have a Wife

Jason

Sorry to hear that.:headshake :rofl:

acr is an in house tuning group for mopar...also did the neon for some years.

u can buy an original rt/10 viper for 20g or so. ur gts white with blue stripes...that's a special edition to commemorate the winning of le mans, hard to find, and not very cheap.

cheapest viper i've ever seen was 12g, needed a new left fender, but it was running and road leagle.

congrats jason.

Conrgats Jason!

In other news, Polygon posted in the Racing section on AF how the ACR SRT-10 Viper cleaned house at the ring with the fastest production time of 7:22.1. IMHO I don't think the ZR1 will have a snowballs chance in hell of getting that beat since it was running 7:40's for a while until someone finally was able to squeeze out a 7:26 in it. The ZR1 is at a disadvantage from the lack of downforce in the rear and bad heat soak after being raced for a while. Go Mopar!

Congrats bro! Opening a new chapter in life, good luck man!

acr is an in house tuning group for mopar...also did the neon for some years.

u can buy an original rt/10 viper for 20g or so. ur gts white with blue stripes...that's a special edition to commemorate the winning of le mans, hard to find, and not very cheap.

cheapest viper i've ever seen was 12g, needed a new left fender, but it was running and road leagle.

congrats jason.
The ACR neon was nothing other than a Neon RT with a different name.

In its day the Neon RT was actually the fastest production car in its class.

the neon in general off the showroom floor was the fastest and best handling car in it's class. at least the first gen. the acr neon(at least 1st gen again) was lighter weight and had a better suspension than the r/t. it's the reason the neon was the most common car in it's level of racing class...and some people still use it competitivley

anyways, if anyone has an extra 40g just laying around collecting dust, there's a 92 tt stealth convertible for sale in cali. 2500 miles.

Sorry to hear that.:headshake :rofl:

Yeah, the way he says it makes it sound like he's just realizing the weight of what he's just done.

:iceslolan

But really, congrats man!

Conrgats Jason!

In other news, Polygon posted in the Racing section on AF how the ACR SRT-10 Viper cleaned house at the ring with the fastest production time of 7:22.1. IMHO I don't think the ZR1 will have a snowballs chance in hell of getting that beat since it was running 7:40's for a while until someone finally was able to squeeze out a 7:26 in it. The ZR1 is at a disadvantage from the lack of downforce in the rear and bad heat soak after being raced for a while. Go Mopar!

well in all honesty i dont think it's really fair to compare the two. The ACR is more of a street legal racecar.
And about the 7.22...i think they can definitely knock almost 10 seconds off that time with the right driver. If you've seen the video you know what i'm talking about...the guy spends more time bouncing off the rev limiter than i've ever seen and he doesn't seem extensively familiar with he 'ring. It seems almost liek he's too lazy to shift sometimes.
Both cars are absolutely fantastic (ZR1 and ACR) and amazing pieces of engineering, and i;m definitely glad to see that car companies are still thinking about the true enthusiests, not just fuel economy.
But if it's my money to spend i'd definitely take the viper :biggrin:

...do you think if we got all the owners on 3si to list their cars for sale all over, asking 2x what their worth, that we could effect the market value of the car? Does NADA/KBB take into account current pricing and demand?

(i know it's 2 posts in a row, not trying to post-whore...but that thought just hit me)

well in all honesty i dont think it's really fair to compare the two. The ACR is more of a street legal racecar.
And about the 7.22...i think they can definitely knock almost 10 seconds off that time with the right driver. If you've seen the video you know what i'm talking about...the guy spends more time bouncing off the rev limiter than i've ever seen and he doesn't seem extensively familiar with he 'ring. It seems almost liek he's too lazy to shift sometimes.
Both cars are absolutely fantastic (ZR1 and ACR) and amazing pieces of engineering, and i;m definitely glad to see that car companies are still thinking about the true enthusiests, not just fuel economy.
But if it's my money to spend i'd definitely take the viper :biggrin:

Yeah but that is just it. The ZR1 and even the Z06 for that matter are race cars. They really are. They are not practical, definately not comfortable to cruise in. They were built for fast speeds and handling. And just like with the ZR1 not being a race car....what about trying to take the ZR1 with the front splitter over a speed bump or a steep incline. They are all race cars that are street legal in my book as that is what they were made to do is be fast and look good......that's it.

And I did watch the video and you are right. The guy was bouncing off of the rev limiter constantly.

...do you think if we got all the owners on 3si to list their cars for sale all over, asking 2x what their worth, that we could effect the market value of the car? Does NADA/KBB take into account current pricing and demand?

(i know it's 2 posts in a row, not trying to post-whore...but that thought just hit me)

I believe they base the values on what the car actually sells for, as reported by the title transfer papers and tax forms filled out when purchased. I could be mistaken though.

no, nada bases the value on actual selling prices. edmunds and kbb just do it based on company and type of car, milage and options, they don't take into account the rarity, that's y according to them a supra tt 95 is worth al of 9g...i wish

the zr1 is a very practical car. it's supposedly a very decent ride, and still has the hatch that u can go to the food store and get a weeks worth of groceries. the zr1 isnt really ment to b a track car, but the splitter doesnt come off. thte acr is a track car, but for road use the splitter must come off, it's not a dot approved item on it.

GRATS JASON! All the best to your new family!

On another note, I thought that the Z06 was fairly comfortable. It's no Ferrari but its a helluvalot more comfortable than my 3000. Just my opinion :smile:

I guess what I am basing my statement on was from my ride in the Corvette and I've talked to a couple guys who own Z06's (one a C6 Z06) and they've said that it's a blast to drive but that they aren't comfortable in the least.

i do agree with u sl. but i'm wondering, most of the people i know or have talked to that own vettes are in their upper 40's and early 50's and getting in and out isnt as easy as it used to be. it also mite b b/c it's a small interior, not much in terms of ability to move around in the seat. but i doubt the chevrolet ever ment for the vette to be a 1) everymans car 2) an every day driver, but more of a car to be used on sundays or cruising.

who thought a 02 z06 would only cost 26g. it's only 6 yrs old and does has 405hp, and a damn good suspension. a guy/gal 2yrs outta college could afford one. it's niche has just changed over time, from american dream to something everyone could have. i think that's y more people are(from what it sounds like on different sites) preferring the viper over the vette

who thought a 02 z06 would only cost 26g. it's only 6 yrs old and does has 405hp, and a damn good suspension. a guy/gal 2yrs outta college could afford one. it's niche has just changed over time, from american dream to something everyone could have. i think that's y more people are(from what it sounds like on different sites) preferring the viper over the vette

Redo.

Does anybody else find this extremely horrifying??
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1993-Ferrari-355-300ZX-Convertible_W0QQitemZ160279199703QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q 20TrucksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item16027919 9703&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C39%3A1%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245
http://i7.ebayimg.com/03/i/001/09/c6/9c69_12.JPG
http://i6.ebayimg.com/04/i/001/09/c6/5ad4_12.JPG

the badging part yea, but it's not even close to an unheard of conversion for a 300 to make it look like a 348/355. hell some go all the way down to the various scoops, rear facia, and front end...tho at that point a 355 itself would b cheaper.

i wouldn't buy it tho, even if i had cash to spare

That is saddenning to see that:shakehead. It looks like a stock 300zx...









with a chopped top and Ferrari stickers...in no way is it a 355 look-alike or whatever he was tryingto make it look like!

Anyways I officially hate North Dakota weather (again), Sunday was 97º and sunny, Monday was 52 and rainy and its been like that since...barring yesterday which was decent but still only 68 degrees.

with a chopped top and Ferrari stickers...

that's a stock 300z convertible (ugly to begin with). The only think not stock is the god-aweful badging. whoever did that needs to be slapped.

I had no idea they made a convertible 300zx actually, just always assumed they were like 3/S and supras...you know real cars...lol kidding of course.

Well I guess you learn something new every day!

It looks worse than a stock 300ZX. What a horrible thing to do to a Fairlady.

yea...300 convertables, not so nice, however i'm going to ask all of you to imagine one: green with a black roof and 21" chrome wheels...

i think nissan shoulda just left it with t-tops and called it quits.

i'm going to ask all of you to imagine one: green with a black roof and 21" chrome wheels...

I just puked in my mouth a little. :puke:

As did I. Plus, the massive size of that front badge made me die a little on the inside.

Why would you make a 300ZX look like that? And I have never seen a convertible one before, so I also assumed they didnt exist. Good course of action, huh? If I havent seen it, it aint real.

Does anybody else find this extremely horrifying??
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/Cars-Trucks___1993-Ferrari-355-300ZX-Convertible_W0QQitemZ160279199703QQddnZCarsQ20Q26Q 20TrucksQQddiZ2282QQcmdZViewItem?hash=item16027919 9703&_trkparms=72%3A727%7C39%3A1%7C65%3A12%7C240%3A1318&_trksid=p4506.c0.m245
http://i7.ebayimg.com/03/i/001/09/c6/9c69_12.JPG
http://i6.ebayimg.com/04/i/001/09/c6/5ad4_12.JPG

How much does one of those things run?

More than you can afford asshole! Ferrari 300zx Spyder *VROOM VROOM*

i've only seen one convertable...yea the one with 21" chrome.

^ fast and the furious huh?