Blackcrow64's Talon TSi AWD Project Progress Thread... (SOLD)

Many of you already know whats going on here. For those of you who don't, theres a 6 bolt swap with everything done right going on here. I've been slowly collecting my parts to do it but the time had come for the motor internals. Lets just say that I can be a very spontaneous person. Wednesday night I ordered every internal part that I would need. I am still short a few bolt on items but they can be worried about later once the motor is in the car again. Remember, this car is getting done from bumper to bumper with everything. :wink: :grinyes: Now for the list of everything...

6 Bolt motor:
Weisco 9.0:1 coated pistons .020 over
Eagle H-beam rods
Comp Cam2's 272/272
Crower springs
Titanium retainers
1mm oversized SS valves
Clevite rod bearings and main bearings
ARP head studs, rod bolts, and main studs
Balance shaft elimination kit
Revised lifters
Greddy Kevlar timing belt
Complete Topline gasket kit
Cometic MLS headgasket
New auto tensioner
New water pump
New thermostat
New starter
New alternator
New oil squirters
Everything machined and balanced
90 N/T TB
Tubular exhaust manifold
46mm external wastegate
Greddy 18g turbo (I'm sure it will be replaced in the near future. :wink: )
Custom 3" stainless exhaust turbo back (V-banded to turbo.)
24x12x4 front mount intercooler
2 1/2" piping from turbo to intercooler, 3" from intercooler to TB
Dual slimline fans
3" GM MAS
Turbo xs RFL BOV
GReddy Profec B spec II EBC
Battery relocation to hatch
255lph high pressure fuel pump
Aeromotive FPR
680cc injectors
MAFT
S-AFC
Datalogger
ACT flywheel
Competition clutch
Shepherd stage 2 tranny
New slave cylinder
SS braided clutch line (Removed clutch line dampner.)
Short throw shifter
KYB adjustables with Eibach springs
Front and rear strut tower bars
Inline oil filter (Before the turbo)
Lots of SS braided lines
Autometer Phantom gauges: Boost, EGT, Oil pressure, Fuel pressure, Engine temp
Interior converted to all black
Removed AC
Removed antilock brakes (New master cylinder, proportioner, and front lines.)
Stripped engine bay of unnecesary items and sensors :wink:
Repairing all rust
Redoing stock wheels
95 Talon sideskirts being painted and added
Tinting windows as dark as legally possible :rolleyes:
and last but not least... a power antenna :smokin:


I'm pretty sure I remembered everything, but its possible that I didn't. :p

Now for some progress pictures! (I won't bore you all to death with all the pictures, but I am redoing my Talon website with them if your interested. :rolleyes: )



http://www.threadlinedesigns.com/talon/1.jpg

http://www.threadlinedesigns.com/talon/3.jpg

http://www.threadlinedesigns.com/talon/5.jpg

http://www.threadlinedesigns.com/talon/8.jpg

http://www.threadlinedesigns.com/talon/7.jpg

http://www.threadlinedesigns.com/talon/21.jpg

http://www.threadlinedesigns.com/talon/22.jpg

http://www.threadlinedesigns.com/talon/10.jpg

http://www.threadlinedesigns.com/talon/18.jpg

http://www.threadlinedesigns.com/talon/33.jpg

http://www.threadlinedesigns.com/talon/31.jpg


Here's a bonus... I was going through all the packaging peanuts in the box of my stuff from extremepsi and during my shuffling I found this just as you see it. Blade and all out. :cough:lawsuit:cough: :rolleyes:

http://www.threadlinedesigns.com/talon/32.jpg



Opinions? Thoughts? Concerns? lol I will be updating this thread all the time as something new comes up or is changed. I'm going to be taking pictures and doing some write-ups of certain things that I feel could be put to good use. I will make them their own sperate threads of course, just in case people want more stickeys. lol

:)

I want that blade :naughty: , Nice project, how can your car have that rust ?, good luck

I want that blade :naughty: , Nice project, how can your car have that rust ?, good luck
Its a very nice blade. I think I'll keep it and not sue them. lol :wink:

I can thank Ohio's snow for the rust it has. I really didn't think it was that bad until I started poking it with a screwdriver... Thats when I decided I had to cut it all out and weld in some new steel.

My talon is from Chicago and wyoming, most of his life, but lucky have no rust any where. That one thing that make me worried, when I was up to chicago to check out the car , RUST....

Wow. It looks so good from the outside you wouldn't think it would have so much rust. After you get done with the metal work you should go ahead and have it painted while it's all took apart, so the engine compartment will look nice and fresh for the fresh 6 bolt.

After you get done with the metal work you should go ahead and have it painted while it's all took apart, so the engine compartment will look nice and fresh for the fresh 6 bolt.
Of course... But it won't be red... :wink:

Fuck man, why dont you slide me a short stack to get my car done up right too?

For the love of god, tell us how much it's cost you so far! Your mods/goals are right up my ally, so a price point would be very nice...

Well its adding up quick... Lemme tell ya... I have 3000 in buying my car, 2000 in built trannys, 2600 in motor internals, and about 1500 in bolt on stuff... So I'm probably topping 9000 into my whole car... But it will be like brand new since I'm doing everything from bumper to bumper.


And this picture is for Scott... Thats 1/3 of the shop. lol
http://www.threadlinedesigns.com/talon/14.jpg

You suck. My garage is just big enough to fit the talon, and that is when there is nothing else in there and even then you can bairly get in and out

Fuck man, why dont you slide me a short stack to get my car done up right too?
I wish I had all the money to finish mine right now. lol This is gonna be stretched across the next 2 months probably...

I think i would have gone with mitsu belt instead of Greddy Kevlar timing belt
Why i say this is because i have heard a few people that went with that same belt and fucked there shit up because of belt breaking.

IMO nothing is like the OEM mitsu belt ;)

:werd: However, E-kips on here is running on his 9-10 sec DSM.

I've heard the kevlars have less of a chance of breaking and last longer than an oem one. Plus the motor is gonna be revving slightly higher than a stock motor would. :wink:

For gods sake with all that money you're investing, why didn't you just stroke it? Hopefully one of these days I can get crackin on my Talon and I'll join the rest of the group with massive mods and lists of parts.

For gods sake with all that money you're investing, why didn't you just stroke it?
I didn't feel like stroking it...

:lol:



I wanted to build a motor that can rev really high and really fast. Not sure why, its just what I wanted. :iceslolan

If not red.....then what?

You only paid 3k for that car? What a steal.

If not red.....then what?

You only paid 3k for that car? What a steal.

I suggest black, any car look great with black.

Hot pink :)

Motor bay is gonna be flat black. lol


Trust me, it'll look a lot better than it sounds. More of a racecar look when its all done. :wink:

More of a racecar look when it's done.

Did you mean to say "ricer," because I'm pretty sure that's the new fad for all the Honda guys. ;) Just playin man.

Did you mean to say "ricer," because I'm pretty sure that's the new fad for all the Honda guys. ;) Just playin man.
:lol:


You caught me, I'm guilty. :grinno:

Actually I have seen alot of cars in mags with flat black bays. I think it will look sweet with all your pollished crap.

I think it will look sweet with all your pollished crap.
Exactly what I was thinking... It'll make those things stand out more and hide a lot of the lines and other crap on the firewall and such. :)

Oh yeah. Flat and polish always contrasts nicely. I don't know whether to paint my IC pipes flat black or silver...im stuck.

Oh yeah. Flat and polish always contrasts nicely. I don't know whether to paint my IC pipes flat black or silver...im stuck.
Keep em polished... If you paint them it could cause it to absorb heat rather than retract it.

or go with a high gloss black like I did.

or go with a high gloss black like I did.
For the motor bay? That would be hard to keep clean... The flat black can be touched up easily if it needs to be. :wink:

Or did you mean for IC pipes? lol

My IC pipes are red and scratched up. Don't want to go red cause I hate alot of color in the engine bay. Don't want to go polished because I hate the blingy, flashy look. I don't want my car to be flashy by any means....gotta look straight hard core. So I should go gloss if I paint? Then I guess its gonna be the silver with clear coat.

My IC pipes are gloss black. Engine bay is white, or at least it will be after some degreaser. I took me a whole can to do one inner fender well and its still not done

Did ya get the 2.4 crank?

Did ya get the 2.4 crank?
No... I'm building a 2.0L. Another stroker fan? lol

Can't go wrong with 2.4.
Mines a 2.4 and its a beast! :uhoh:

Well are you boring the motor .020 over right? If you are you might as well just get the crank.

I think he wants to be able to rev it high.

Nah, I would rather have a motor that can rev higher. IMO, the 2.4's will have better bottom end power and spool the turbo quicker, but a shorter powerband. But, the 2.0 will be able to stretch the power band out further... If I am understanding everything I've ever read correctly... Somebody please correct me if I am wrong.

Well, I think its all basically the same. You cant rev out a 2.3 as far, but it spools quicker, and vice versa on the 2.0. I think it basically cancells out, you have basically the same power band range, but its shifted like 800 RPMS higher on the 2.0. The 2.3 will have a bit more bottom end torque though. I say 2.1 destroker. Kinda best of both worlds, extra displacement and extra revs. Mmmmm. If I were to do a bottom end build thats what I would do.

I was going to go with a destroker but from graphs that I've seen it actually has less bottom end than any thing else. I think it makes peak power close to 8k and up to 5k it makes less than 150hp and tq. That is with peak hp being 707 and tq being 503. IMO its not worth it because then you have to make everything else work at 10k+

I have a whole bag of parts missing now and I think some fucking kid took it when my brother had him in our garage, because my brother let the kid take some parts from my 7 bolt. :banghead: I'm seriously going to choke a bitch!!!

The 2.3 is going to make more power motor wise than the 2.0. And when you look at it, you won't loose that much rev on the 2.3 opposed to the 2.0.

that is freaking awesome dude, keep it up and get that thing running.

mine might be running by the end of the week.

What did they take?

What did they take?
I had a bag that had a boost controller, some headlight bulbs, a blow off vlave, several spools of wire, wire connectors, little adapters, wire strippers (the nice kind), a few other little tools, and some hoses and clamps...

Yeah, if it was stolen I'm seriously gonna mess somebody up... My brother says that he never let the kid out of his sight and that he couldn't have taken it... Lemme guess, the bag grew wings and flew away?... Yeah I'm seriously pissed off about it cause the boost controller is going to longemoco on here and of course with my luck it was in the bag... I really hate it when something goes missing like this. :(

i would agree that the kid is responsible, he's the only other one that knew stuff was there!!

KICK HIS ASS!! and call me if you need backup, i'll be there in a jiffy.

Ok guys, I finished up most of my interior parts today with the black conversion. All I have left to do is finish ripping the dash out, the seats, carpet, and headliner and it'll be done. Heres some pictures for ya. Lemme know what ya think.

http://www.threadlinedesigns.com/talon/34.jpg

http://www.threadlinedesigns.com/talon/35.jpg

http://www.threadlinedesigns.com/talon/36.jpg

http://www.threadlinedesigns.com/talon/37.jpg

did you spray paint it ? or you bought like that ? BTW look really good.

Looks like you did a good job. I have a friend who redid his burgundy interior (300zx) black and it turned out real well. Don't trust that "spray on carpet dye in a can" stuff though. Didn't work worth a crap for us, I told him from the beginning to just replace the carpet or rip it out and dye it properly.

Killer, I properly painted it. I just hope that it all holds up and doesn't flake off or anything... There was a piece I had done several months ago to test it on and after I let it cure properly for a week in a temperature controlled enviroment it seemed pretty strong. I scratched and scratched on it but couldn't get it to come off so I'm hoping that it stays that way with all this too.

As for the carpet, I am gonna finish pulling it all out and properly dye it. I'm not sure if the leather seats can be dyed too or not... I'm kinda leery about doing them as well.

Great project-thread, bro. You should post this in the "Member's Project Cars" forum in the "Cars in General" category.


I love these 2 pics; looks like Christmas morning! :p



http://www.threadlinedesigns.com/talon/33.jpg

http://www.threadlinedesigns.com/talon/31.jpg


I can't wait to see it when it's done.

lol Thanks man. There will be more to come as I get more parts and more sections finished... I think sometime this week I am gonna try to get under the hood finished so it'll be ready for bolting new stuff in and the motor and such. The nice thing about such a big project is that when I get tired of the motor I go over to the interior. When I get sick of that, I hop back over to the motor, then over to the wheels, etc. Its kinda nice. lol I'm sure it'll be more frustrating as the project draws near an end. (In a few months, lol.)

Sounds like fun to me, bro. That rust looks like a headache though. Have you decided what color(s) you're gonna paint the exterior? (sorry, I didn't read through the whole thread)

Killer, I properly painted it. I just hope that it all holds up and doesn't flake off or anything... There was a piece I had done several months ago to test it on and after I let it cure properly for a week in a temperature controlled enviroment it seemed pretty strong. I scratched and scratched on it but couldn't get it to come off so I'm hoping that it stays that way with all this too.

As for the carpet, I am gonna finish pulling it all out and properly dye it. I'm not sure if the leather seats can be dyed too or not... I'm kinda leery about doing them as well.

If you cleaned it well, and used either a plastic primer or a good quality plastic paint then you shouldn't have any worries.

Krylon Fusion is teh sHiZnIt. Primered, painted, and clear coated, after it sets right theres not chipping/scratching.

Sounds like fun to me, bro. That rust looks like a headache though. Have you decided what color(s) you're gonna paint the exterior? (sorry, I didn't read through the whole thread)
I've already redone the whole exterior in 97 Corvette red. :wink: Under the hood will be getting flat black though. I've got the strut towers all hacked up right now and I need to weld new sections back in and it should be good then.

Krylon Fusion is teh sHiZnIt. Primered, painted, and clear coated, after it sets right theres not chipping/scratching.

I dont' think I would like a cleared dash, it would be too shiny IMO. I left mine just the paint finish and it's just shiny enough but not too shiny so that it blinds you.

I dont' think I would like a cleared dash, it would be too shiny IMO. I left mine just the paint finish and it's just shiny enough but not too shiny so that it blinds you.
Exactly what I was thinking too. None of the interior parts are really that glossy, they are more of a happy medium. lol

Damn you man! I'm jealous! I wanna see this thing when it's done! Your interoir looks really good too. What did you use (couldn't find it in the thread)? And why didn't you go with DSMLink?

I dont' think I would like a cleared dash, it would be too shiny IMO. I left mine just the paint finish and it's just shiny enough but not too shiny so that it blinds you.
It was satin clear. :)

I demand more pics of your progress! :D

Hopefully I'll have some more pictures here by next week. Its hard to get much done between work and helping my buddy finish up his GSX... I'll have a nice little thread on his car hopefully within the next week too and you guys better be ready for it. Almost a years worth of work has gone into his car and its freaking amazing. You'll all probably be making a mess on your keyboards when you see it. lol :p