ULTIMATE SCRATCHBUILD: 1:12 Hot Rod-Updated 03/12/06

Awesome.

Happy birfday sucka.

Those drawings are awesome. Very nice to see such care taken in planning... puts a tear in my eye buddy, a tear (weepy Willimo).... I saw your motor at Hooby Looby, $26. I don't know if that's more or less than at your LHS, but it's there. What would be nice is if they threw a half-off sale... right now. NOW! Do you year me Hoob Loob!??

Thanks Will. Lots of time is going into the design of it. Total time on the build (including design) so far, 174 hours. There are still many more designs yet to come

At my LHS the motor is $30, I dont really feel like running over to Hooby-Looby because they most likely wont have it. Mine Hoob Loob carries tamiya bikes usually, and a few Tamiya cars. When I go to my LHS I should try to get a birthday discount.

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To everyone else:

Thanks for the birthday wishes. And can somebody get me a dimensions on the diameter of the fly wheel? Also can people search for some manual transmissions for a 426? I need to study now. I'll check back later.

the epoxy and superglue welds wont work well. i doubt you will ever get to sell it to boyd or foose! it will fall apart before it gets to them if you mail it!

You know your gonna get banned again....

the epoxy and superglue welds wont work well. i doubt you will ever get to sell it to boyd or foose! it will fall apart before it gets to them if you mail it!


Don't be such a hater. Man take a chill pill.

the epoxy and superglue welds wont work well. i doubt you will ever get to sell it to boyd or foose! it will fall apart before it gets to them if you mail it!

and you wont ever be able to amount to anything in life. Id rather be decent at something then be an ass like yourself. Seriously lay off....just because your jealous at the fact that he can build something like this and you cant is no reason to bash people.

the epoxy and superglue welds wont work well. i doubt you will ever get to sell it to boyd or foose! it will fall apart before it gets to them if you mail it!

Thank you for information that I have already stated. If I had my TIG welder at my leasure I would use it. However both my MIG and TIG are up in Michigan at one of the metal shops I work at.

and you wont ever be able to amount to anything in life. Id rather be decent at something then be an ass like yourself. Seriously lay off....just because your jealous at the fact that he can build something like this and you cant is no reason to bash people.

Thanks.

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Hey Josh, can you measure that flywheel for me?

Mike what is up with the four posts. Are you messing with newbs now or something.

Mike what is up with the four posts. Are you messing with newbs now or something.

Ray is messing with my post count...

Oh i see. I lost a few too.

Never mind. Make that Igor...*deep sigh*

2 1/4 inch

2 1/4 inch

Thanks man. I thought it would be half that size. Now to see if I have 2.25" tubing lying around for the trans.

No prob, Glad I could help out. :)

Nice mike. 200,000 post. #1 post whore.

Whats new?

I got the motor today. Just did a real quick mock up to put it on the chassis and see what it looks like. It looks like shit. Absolute shit. The thing is huge. I had planned for a big motor but it looks like shit in the chassis. It looks as if its a 4026. I'll get pics later, but right now Im pissed off.

Pics mike pics. Sorry about your misfuture (sp) but it is your birthday. So perk up and be happy.

I'll go grab some snapshots.

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I got the motor. It looks like shit in the chassis. Its too damn big. It fits but it looks like it came from a Catipillar 726 (Worlds Biggest Dumptruck). Tell me what y'all think. Im not sure. I rarely see cars with just their chassis. The frame for one looks too narrow.

http://3.pichold.com/dscf0016.jpg

http://3.pichold.com/dscf0019.jpg

http://3.pichold.com/dscf0022.jpg

Sorry for the blur.

dont know!? hold up some body panels to refrence from!

Damn mike that is big. I hate to say it but did you think of making a new frame or fixing that one.

Damn mike that is big. I hate to say it but did you think of making a new frame or fixing that one.

Turns out the frame I have spent 173hours on is trash. After hundreds of hours and design, somethings just didnt look right.
A. It was weak, I didnt design reinforcements.
B. It was ugly.
C. The engine didnt fit
D. I decided to change some of the body design.

So yes, I will be building yet another chassis! Pretty stressful and pissy day. So I just ran to Wally-World and picked up a '32 Ford Vicky to assemble a rolling chassis since both my design and the Vicky use the relatively same chassis. Thus I will build the same 1/25 Chassis 4 times larger. Its a great tool to measure off of. Should have thought of that earlier.

Another problem is Im craming a big block into a small block street rod. Oh, well. I like to plan things that are just beyond what I think I am capable of doing. I like a challenge, and the rewards is quite gratifying.

Hate to hear that you have to start over again. Hope you have better luck next time, mabye it's just the luck of this thread. I say when you start the new progress you start a new thread, It's worth a shot.

Good Luck!

that dosent look so bad... i have a pickture of a real rod with a 426 hemi and it looks almost the same.... sad to hear that you have started al over again! damn! do't you get bored of that car?

Damn mike sorry about that you really have to start over. That sucks big time. Hope you have any fun with this car.

Its all fun. Half the problem is not having all the parts available. So Im going to start off building the transmission. After that I will check with my old frame and see how it looks.

I just bought and assembled a '32 Ford Vicky to look at the rolling frame. I'll post pics as soon as finish eating.

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Last night I went to Wally-World and bought an AMT '32 Ford Vickie. I thought it would be excellent reference material as far as the chassis and suspension components. I quickly assembled the rolling chassis so its not detailed, since all its being used for is reference. The build had some painful areas to work through in which parts didnt fit, horrible assembly procedure or something else. But who the hell cares, its not for a comp or show.

http://4.pichold.com/dscf0027.jpg

http://4.pichold.com/dscf0028.jpg

Sorry for the blurry pic, the shots were taken rather quickly.

As far as the build right now for the 1/6 Rod, I have been designing and planning the transmission assembly. The transmission will be built from scratch and its turning to be quite the challenge.

Thanks for your comments everyone, without you I probably would have quit this build. You keep me motivated!

Hey mike i have that same model. Good luck on the tranny.

it is always good to have reference;) and I agre with Howilong good luck with that trany.

This thread breaks my brain. Wow. That's all I've got. Wow.

Perhaps I can express myself using scientific notation...

I am:

( [impressed] ) x 10 ^ 999,999,999,999,999

This thread breaks my brain. Wow. That's all I've got. Wow.

Perhaps I can express myself using scientific notation...

I am:

( [impressed] ) x 10 ^ 999,999,999,999,999


:iceslolan

it is always good to have reference;) and I agre with Howilong good luck with that trany.

This tranny is pissing me off already. I need AutoCAD 2002, AutoCAD 2004, or Autodesk Architectural Desktop 3.3. Right now Im drawing everything out on paper, which I hate doing when things need to be exact to 1/32" precision.

This thread breaks my brain. Wow. That's all I've got. Wow.

Perhaps I can express myself using scientific notation...

I am:

( [impressed] ) x 10 ^ 999,999,999,999,999

Thanks Jay. Always with the scientific notation. :lol2:

This tranny is pissing me off already. I need AutoCAD 2002, AutoCAD 2004, or Autodesk Architectural Desktop 3.3. Right now Im drawing everything out on paper, which I hate doing when things need to be exact to 1/32" precision.






You say you need autocad 2004. Hook me up with a pm. I have it plus something special.

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I have spent numerous hours planning out the trans and how I will build it. This is design number three of the trans mission and I am heading towards the eleventh hour so far.

http://1.pichold.com/trannydesign1.jpg

Please tell me what you think of the transmission design so far. I am just using that '32 Vickie tranny as reference. It still needs some more detail. But am I heading in the right direction?

looks pretty good. this is an awesome build man. i wish i had the time to tackle such a project. but between my classes and work, there is no spare time. i've got more unfinished models than your local hobby lobby. and most of tham are partially done.

looks pretty good. this is an awesome build man. i wish i had the time to tackle such a project. but between my classes and work, there is no spare time.

Thanks for the comments. Its hard to work around school, if its design Im working on I try to work on it in the classes I excel in.

i've got more unfinished models than your local hobby lobby.

:lol2:

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Anyone have any other comments on the tranny? I dont want to get to far ahead of myself and start design all over, again.

looks like a good drawing mike

Mike, the tranny looks pretty good. Id like to see your other designs/drawings of it if you don't mind posting them up.

Mike nice work on the tranny. Seems to be a hard job when you get to make it. Good luck.

Mike, the tranny looks pretty good. Id like to see your other designs/drawings of it if you don't mind posting them up.

The earlier designs of the tranny? Or designs pertaining to this project? Or just all my drawings in general?

I have one of the earlier drawings of the trans if you want me to post that?

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Heres the top view of the transmission.

http://2.pichold.com/trannydesigntop.jpg

Its not very detailed. The details dont really affect the design so there not much point in drawing every little rib on the thing.

Some of the drawings of the previous transmission designs. Your top looks pretty good.

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Heres yet another design for the trans. So far this one as very poor line quality and was sketched in less than five minutes and its the best design yet.

http://5.pichold.com/dscf0044.jpg

And as 86_SR5 Requested, som of the old drawings of the trans. Heres the one that I basically drew over and over again. I cant find the other two.

http://5.pichold.com/dscf0041.jpg

Comments? C+C?

Mike, your sketched one looks the best of them all. Thanks for posting your pics, good luck on the tranny.

Good pics of the tranny. How many did you make all together. Must be alot. Well good luck. Off to work on my project.

Mike, your sketched one looks the best of them all. Thanks for posting your pics, good luck on the tranny.

Thanks man. Glad to hear the trans looks realistic. I'm anxious to start it, I need to see if my uncle has a 2-1/4" or 2-1/2" hole saw though.

Good pics of the tranny. How many did you make all together. Must be alot. Well good luck. Off to work on my project.

Thanks Steve. Glad to see you still follow this thread often. I made about 5 or 6 sketches total. But its pretty much all on one piece of graph paper. I would sketch one and change some things around.

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I think I may have found what I want to get for this project, a jewlers welder. It might work, I would like to find someone with one that I can play with first before spending $150+.

http://www.eastwoodco.com/images/us//local/products/detail/p845.jpg

Weird looking welder. I still follow this thread mike.

w3rd d00d, that welder would make me afraid to use it out of fear for breaking it:lol2:

Good looking project thus far. As Jay stated for himself, I too am quite impressed.

awesome build so far. sorry to hear about the chassis. When your done though, you'll have something to be very proud of. One question though.. something that big, where would you put it? next to your car in the driveway or garage??

w3rd d00d, that welder would make me afraid to use it out of fear for breaking it:lol2:

Good looking project thus far. As Jay stated for himself, I too am quite impressed.
Thanks Jon. Glad to see you found some intrest, I told you this thread wasnt long. :grinno:

The welder is small as hell thats for sure. The only problem is it being oxy-acetelyne and I hate oxy-acetelyne. Its like welding with a stick of plastic and a lighter. This is what I really want:

http://www.millerwelds.com/images/products/maxstar150stlpkg.jpg
OR
http://www.millerwelds.com/images/products/EconotigPackage.jpg
Either would be nice.
awesome build so far. sorry to hear about the chassis. When your done though, you'll have something to be very proud of. One question though.. something that big, where would you put it? next to your car in the driveway or garage??
Thats part of the best part, looking at it and saying that came from nothing.

As far as display, I will build a 30"x18"x18" Plexi case for it. However, I might need to build a trailer for it when I take it to NNL :grinno:.

Your project is in every look more interesting!!

BTW:Mig is better when you weld thin metal and Tig when you weld bigger metal.

BTW:Mig is better when you weld thin metal and Tig when you weld bigger metal.

Other way around. MIG is used for welding heavy gauge steels, as well as tacking heavier steels since its wire feed. TIG is used to weld thinner metals such as 22Ga. as well as aluminum. To weld aluminum like 2049 you need to use TIG (or be really good at oxy-acetelyne) because you can adjust the frequency and amps. The frequency is set really high when welding aluminum. All in all MIG isnt as adjustable as TIG therefore TIG is most commonly used for all thicknesses and types of "hard" metals.

Thanks for the comments!

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Just started working on the transmission. Its not exactly the best looking thing right now. I still need to cover everything with styrene and putty. Well heres a pic anyway:

http://6.pichold.com/dscf0047.jpg

Other way around. MIG is used for welding heavy gauge steels, as well as tacking heavier steels since its wire feed. TIG is used to weld thinner metals such as 22Ga. as well as aluminum. To weld aluminum like 2049 you need to use TIG (or be really good at oxy-acetelyne) because you can adjust the frequency and amps. The frequency is set really high when welding aluminum. All in all MIG isnt as adjustable as TIG therefore TIG is most commonly used for all thicknesses and types of "hard" metals.

Thanks for the comments!
Then i havent understanded what they are in finnish :eek7:

Then in the Mig they weld with "sticks"
and in Tig is wire ??

Then i havent understanded what they are in finnish :eek7:

Then in the Mig they weld with "sticks"
and in Tig is wire ??

MIG is wire feed with an inert gas usually argon.

TIG is with stick/rod to fill/join the metal. It does have a tungsten electrode in the torch to create the electric arc to weld. However it is not used to fill/join the metals, thats what the welding stick/rod is for.

Does that help? PM me if you have more questions as I would like for my thread to stay on topic.

Tranny looks good so far mike, like the pill case.

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Just cut out a notch for the starter. Ther was also a notch on the other side for a bolt.

http://9.pichold.com/dscf0003.jpg

Looks good mike.

That looks werry good mike! keep up the good work!

Thanks for the comments guys!

The bell housing is turning out to be a bitch. I didnt think it was going to be as hard as it is. Trying to make a cone with a 45degree angle on one side and a 20degree angle on the other side with styrene is a pain.

Stop what you are doing. Wander aimlessly around your house. Go to your hobbyshop, go to Walmart. Look around at any and all plastic things to see what may be about the right size and shape. Tableware, structural shapes, parts for things other than models, packaging for anything. You'll stumble over something that you can work with for the bellhousing. Modifying is always easier than scratchbuilding.