ULTIMATE SCRATCHBUILD: 1:12 Hot Rod-Updated 03/12/06

looks awesome! on the suspension, i think your best bet is to get some spun for a more realistic look! rc shocks would make it look like it was a off road car not a rod! lovin the frame! im all about scratch built frames!

looks awesome! on the suspension, i think your best bet is to get some spun for a more realistic look! rc shocks would make it look like it was a off road car not a rod! lovin the frame! im all about scratch built frames!

I just ran out to the Harware store to pick up some more tubing for the cross members and found a whole aisle for springs. I think I have found what I need, but I just remembered I forgot to check the price.

I just added a load of cross members withing the cross members (sorry thats confusing). So far I have gone through 5 feet of tubing for the cross members.:grinno:

MIKE! Looks good. Sorry haven't posted much, just been pretty busy. Got ahold of that HEMI yet? I got a question, how where you planning to make powersteering, A/C, brake MC, clutch MC and stuff like that?

MIKE! Looks good. Sorry haven't posted much, just been pretty busy. Got ahold of that HEMI yet? I got a question, how where you planning to make powersteering, A/C, brake MC, clutch MC and stuff like that?

Yea man I understand your busy, glad to see you're still intrested though. Still havent gotten ahold of the Hemi yet. I should have it within the next 2-3 weeks. Next week I have finals all week.

Powersteering box, not sure yet, probably styrene and putty. AC same thing. What is brake MC and clutch MC? What the hell does MC stand for?

BTW, I'll be posting new pics in about an hour or so.

Master Cylinder

Master Cylinder

Ahh. Tubing.

Mike, wont you need to make the reservior for the brake fluid, and then use tubing to run the lines?

Mike, wont you need to make the reservior for the brake fluid, and then use tubing to run the lines?

Dammit I hate you. Dont remind me of this yet, your scaring me. Im gonna need your help though this, I am a metal fabricator, so I dont exactly know where this stuff usually is, and looks like. I know most of it though.

UPDATES:

I have put in more cross members. As you can see in the pictures. There isnt much to say about whats been done, the pictures say it all.

http://7.pichold.com/dscf0027.jpg

http://7.pichold.com/dscf0028.jpg

http://7.pichold.com/dscf0031.jpg

http://7.pichold.com/dscf0033.jpg

Please comment.

Look'n good so far man!

Glad to see you're putting bend oil on it ! Nice.

Glad to see you're putting bend oil on it ! Nice.

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...nice progress Mike!

Mike. I can snap pics of the brake MC and clutch MC in my car, but thats the best I can do for ya when the time comes. I wish I had a street rod with a HEMI. Oh wait, no I dont. too much on gas, thats what I like about my corolla. and yes, it has less displacement than my pepsi bottle on the counter.

Mike. I can snap pics of the brake MC and clutch MC in my car, but thats the best I can do for ya when the time comes. I wish I had a street rod with a HEMI. Oh wait, no I dont. too much on gas, thats what I like about my corolla. and yes, it has less displacement than my pepsi bottle on the counter.

I might be going to work at my uncles salvage yard this summer so I might try to find a '32 ford I could grab for a hundred bucks for reference. I may not even need to buy it.

If I cant, your pics would be appreciated.

BTW, you think gas for a Hemi 426 is bad. I want to put a 572 in my Bel Air when I get it.

thats nothing. I dont know what the hype about the 572 is. Its got 720hp, yeah ok. Id still go with a 454 in a bel air. headers with glass packs bolted right to them. edelbrock performer intake with air gap, holley 750 and k&n cleaner and you'll burn up anything that comes your way. Also, id bolt a th350 or 400 to it with a 2500b&m stall, and stage 2 shift kit with a ford 9'' with 3.73 gears. all this in an old rusty multi colored 4dr bel air.

thats nothing. I dont know what the hype about the 572 is. Its got 720hp, yeah ok. Id still go with a 454 in a bel air. headers with glass packs bolted right to them. edelbrock performer intake with air gap, holley 750 and k&n cleaner and you'll burn up anything that comes your way. Also, id bolt a th350 or 400 to it with a 2500b&m stall, and stage 2 shift kit with a ford 9'' with 3.73 gears. all this in an old rusty multi colored 4dr bel air.

I cant have a 454 in a Bel Air. My friend has a 455 in his Firebird. And I would have a '51-'54 2 door bel air that I would section and chop.

Can we get back on topic now. Any comments on the pictures I posted?

it is fun to see you posting again!

It is a guy in Sweden Alf he has a pontiac GTO with 572 and superchardger. when he drives it on the street he have about 1000 hp but on the strip he increase the amount of horses and that car is awsome if you wnat tou can have his site and there he has the recepi on that engin.;)

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Sorry i translated a french expression. Obviously it doesn't mean anything in english !
Bend oil basically means work.

Thanks for the comments guys. And I would also appreciate it if we stayed on topic.

GT-Alex- That makes much more sense now.

Im really running out of things to do until I get that damn motor. I may start cross drilling the brake discs today. But I also have to work on my 37 Custom Ford design for the S/D contest.

Keep the comments coming!

Sorry Mike. I understand you want a bigger engine. Its only for small penis compensation....




jk. the frame looks good. Im not exactly sure what you put all those lil extra beams in for, since Im no rod pro. Just don't overdo it, it could be so easy to overdo it.

the frame looks good. Im not exactly sure what you put all those lil extra beams in for, since Im no rod pro. Just don't overdo it, it could be so easy to overdo it.

That is roughly the same setup as the Pro-Ride Chassis for '32-'34 Ford Coupe. All those cross members really stiffen it up, so they are just for looks.

Sorry i translated a french expression. Obviously it doesn't mean anything in english !
Bend oil basically means work.

:lol: French modelers are far better at modeling than at writing good english! The exact translation would have been: "elbow grease", and not bend oil!.... :icon16:
The reason of this french expression is that all french modelers are very fat people with short arms that just end with elbows, and not hands! So making a kit is extremely difficult for us, as you can imagine, and we quickly begin to sweat... which makes our work even more difficult! :rofl:
Amazingly, the result is most of the time very good, and some times perfect! :screwy::loser:
Gt-Alex just meant to encourage you! And say he appreciated your work. :smokin:

... And I want to add my voice to his! That's the foot! (another french expression meaning it is more than good!) :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol: :lol:

We'll wait patiently for your next progresses! Keep it on! (I don't know what it means but as it sounds good I decided to write it!) :icon16:

Thanks for the comments guys.

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Here is one of the designs for the brake rotor. Im going to go start cutting the styrene for it now. I should be running by my LHS in about 4 hours or so, so Im going to check for the 426 and some strip styrene.

http://10.pichold.com/brakerotor.gif

NIce looking design on the brake.

NIce looking design on the brake.

Except I just calculated the scale and its the wrong damn size. Thing is too small. Its 1 1/8 instead of 2 1/8.:banghead: Now to go back into CAD and redraw it.

Can't you just resize it in cad. Im still learing all the tricks. But just click the center point and make the radius 1-1/16" instead of 5/16".

Can't you just resize it in cad. Im still learing all the tricks. But just click the center point and make the radius 1-1/16" instead of 5/16".

Correct. But Im not using AutoCAD right now. I am using a Computer Aided Design Program (CAD).

Also redrawing it would be easier. I just finished redrawing it now. Its quicker because all the drills need to be redrawn at 3/32" instead of 1/16". Then other parts of it too. It was just easier to redraw it.

Correct. But Im not using AutoCAD right now. I am using a Computer Aided Design Program (CAD).

Also redrawing it would be easier. I just finished redrawing it now. Its quicker because all the drills need to be redrawn at 3/32" instead of 1/16". Then other parts of it too. It was just easier to redraw it.


Got it. I thought it was autocad. But yeah it is alot easier to redraw then to work out all the bugs.

UPDATES:

New pics of the rotor design. Theres a picture with a mock wheel as well, its not exactly what the real wheel will look like.

http://6.pichold.com/rotor2.gif

http://6.pichold.com/rotorwheel.gif

thats gonna be a sweet design!

oO Pretty.

Nice wheels mike. Looks like the radii are off a bit. Some are closer to the hub then others. Nice looking brakes too.

Nice wheels mike. Looks like the radii are off a bit. Some are closer to the hub then others. Nice looking brakes too.

I see what you mean, its because I didnt center the wheel over the rotor. I just drug the wheel layer over it.

I see what you mean, its because I didnt center the wheel over the rotor. I just drug the wheel layer over it.


Oh i see now.

I think the cross drills are too big. They aren't really very big in life, as all they do is carry off gasses. (And besides that, slotted rotors are better because drilled ones are prone to cracking under heavy braking. Have you ever seen drilled rotors on a racecar?)

I think the cross drills are too big. They aren't really very big in life, as all they do is carry off gasses. (And besides that, slotted rotors are better because drilled ones are prone to cracking under heavy braking. Have you ever seen drilled rotors on a racecar?)
Cross drilled rotors look cooler IMO. Also this isnt a racecar, its a show car.

lookin good mike, can't wait till your next update.
and now a quote from mike himself, I posted in yours now go post in mine. LOL:iceslolan

lookin good mike, can't wait till your next update.
and now a quote from mike himself, I posted in yours now go post in mine. LOL:iceslolan

Thanks. I may update tonight with progress of the brake rotors. I have to drill 60 damn holes. I cant wait.

Progress will be exceptionally slow this week. I have finals all week. So I'll be studying like hell. Then Friday afternoon right when I get out of school I hope to run to the LHS and pic up that Hemi. I looked at it today, and damn that thing is heavy as hell. Probably a couple pounds.

Where the hell is your thread? or are you just mocking me?

wow, this thread is mamma jamma, cant wait for this to be done though

Hope you have fun mike with the holes. Good luck on the finals. I have 17 and 18 off. Yes.

Where the hell is your thread? or are you just mocking me?

UMM...no. There is a link in my sig.
Just making a joke.

wow, this thread is mamma jamma, cant wait for this to be done though

Its now where near done. It probably wont be finished until September or so.

Hope you have fun mike with the holes. Good luck on the finals. I have 17 and 18 off. Yes.

Could have wished me luck earlier. I already messed it up. I drilled seven holes that were fine, then the eighth hole went through the side. Im going to see if the guy I work for can either photoetch some or machine them.
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UMM...no. There is a link in my sig.
Just making a joke.

I posted, happy now?

Cross drilled rotors look cooler IMO. Also this isnt a racecar, its a show car.

I know, I know. It's just so hard for me to think "show car..." So hard. I still love your build though... of course.

I posted, happy now?

I was happy either way, i just remember you posting that in someone else's thread so i decided to squeeze a post out of you....lol.

Hey, is that your paintbooth in your pics. If it is, do you have any pics of your set up. I'm looking for ideas for one i'm about to start building, I have all the usual links to how to build your own that usually gets posted when someone asks about how to build one. Just looking for more ideas.

thanks.

I know, I know. It's just so hard for me to think "show car..." So hard. I still love your build though... of course.

Yes we know Honda boy. Glad to hear you still love the build.

I was happy either way, i just remember you posting that in someone else's thread so i decided to squeeze a post out of you....lol.

Hey, is that your paintbooth in your pics. If it is, do you have any pics of your set up. I'm looking for ideas for one i'm about to start building, I have all the usual links to how to build your own that usually gets posted when someone asks about how to build one. Just looking for more ideas.

thanks.

I have posted it in about 10 different threads. Hell if I follow there threads religiously they could show some intrest in mine, eh?

Yes that is one of my paint booths in my pics. That one is 36"x24"x12 I believe. Its my airbrush/model booth, then theres one for cars, and large parts.

Right now its on a dresser and two carboard boxes temporarily. I am rebuilding my shop, so I kind of needed to move it out of the way while I build a new workbench that has yet to be started.

That paint booth is home-made. I used a kitchen exhaust fan and have the exhaust go out a dryer vent in the side of the house. Do you want some pictures? If so, Ill PM them to you.

Lookin great mike, keep us posted.

Could have wished me luck earlier. I already messed it up. I drilled seven holes that were fine, then the eighth hole went through the side. Im going to see if the guy I work for can either photoetch some or machine them.
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How you making them. Small drill press.

How you making them. Small drill press.

Steve, what the hell are you trying to say?

Steve, what the hell are you trying to say?


Sorry i just got up when i said that. Im trying to say how are you making them? With a small drill press?

Sorry i just got up when i said that. Im trying to say how are you making them? With a small drill press?

Ahh. I am using my small drill press. However to cut the circles (for the rotors) I used a compass.

Ahh. I am using my small drill press. However to cut the circles (for the rotors) I used a compass.


OH i see. If you were using the press for doing the circles i was going to see if setting the depth stopper. But then again your don't using it.

OH i see. If you were using the press for doing the circles i was going to see if setting the depth stopper.

Im looking to find my hole saws and use them to cut out the discs.

But then again your don't using it.

WTF? Steve...is your mind always going faster than your hands can type?

Im looking to find my hole saws and use them to cut out the discs.



WTF? Steve...is your mind always going faster than your hands can type?


Yes i was doing many things at one time. I think quicker before i type and i mispell words wrong and backspace alot and then i forget what im typing about.

UPDATES:

Tomorrow is my birthday so after Final exams (end at 12:20) I am going to the hobby shop to pick up my motor and some supplies to start building the transmission. I cant wait.


Heres just a quick update. I finished drawing the frame in CAD a day or two ago. And heres one of the prints of what the frame will look like.

http://4.pichold.com/chassis.jpg

happy b-day jeez u spent alot of work in this this is gonna be hot

what is the chassis gonna be made out of

what is the chassis gonna be made out of

Awesome.

Happy birfday sucka.

Those drawings are awesome. Very nice to see such care taken in planning... puts a tear in my eye buddy, a tear (weepy Willimo).... I saw your motor at Hooby Looby, $26. I don't know if that's more or less than at your LHS, but it's there. What would be nice is if they threw a half-off sale... right now. NOW! Do you year me Hoob Loob!??

happy b-day jeez u spent alot of work in this this is gonna be hot

what is the chassis gonna be made out of

Thanks. If you look on page 25 or 26 there are pictures of the Chassis so far. Its already pretty far along.

The chassis is made out of 2049 3x8"Channel 1/2"x1/4" 1/16" Thick Aluminum C-Channel.

Happy B-Day man..

Nice cad pics. Happy birthday mike. You old person.