ULTIMATE SCRATCHBUILD: 1:12 Hot Rod-Updated 03/12/06

This thing is awesome!

I'm sure it has been asked before, but I'm too damn lazy to read the whole 64 pages of this thread: How big will this thing be when it's finished?

Overall size should approach nearly 30" (75cm).

Looks nice but I still think you make all of this much harder than it has to be. The finished product will be fantastic, no doubt, but man, the road there is going to be very tough - much more so than it needs to be.

Thats me! I always do that...dont know why, just do. Plus Im a stubborn bitch.


Now, now I need all of your help. I need some mockup wheels/tires, but I cant find any cylinders to use as a base. PVC isnt even close to the correct size. If its close I can use styrene to make it correct. The rear dia is 3-7/16".

Any suggestions will help!

The rear dia is 3-7/16".

Please Mike, use metric for gods sake! For everyone who is´nt familiar with the "inch-system" thats about 87 mm, I think (after some calculating...). Does the wheel have to look and be able to work as wheels? If not then try to use a regular 1,5L coca cola bottle, its a bit concave in some places but I think you could use the part where the label is.

/Fredrik

Please Mike, use metric for gods sake! For everyone who is´nt familiar with the "inch-system" thats about 87 mm, I think (after some calculating...). Does the wheel have to look and be able to work as wheels? If not then try to use a regular 1,5L coca cola bottle, its a bit concave in some places but I think you could use the part where the label is.

/Fredrik


Ahhh, sorry about the english "shittiest idea for measuring" system. I designed the whole car in english, which most of my models are metric.

Excellent idea of the coke bottle! I just need some round circles with a hub (made out of styrene) to rest them on the spindle. Later on I'll have wheels machined.

no problem, good luck with the mock-up!

/Fredrik

Lots of work, lots and lots of work. And lots of pounding. I hope it turns out well, still have a very long way to go.

I need to find some one with a planish hammer to smooth out those bumps, sadly the metal shop I work at over the summer is 1000miles away and has one. Then I will need to find a bit for it.

Thanks for the reply to my Halo project. Your project looks cool. I know that all the hammering is hard work but maybe its therapeutic as well. It would be for me (keep me from pounding stupid Insurance Adjusters). Anyway, is it possible to sand down a block of hard wood into the shape of a planish hammer and use it as a "head" for your conventional 3lbs sledge?
Jim

Thanks for the reply to my Halo project. Your project looks cool. I know that all the hammering is hard work but maybe its therapeutic as well. It would be for me (keep me from pounding stupid Insurance Adjusters). Anyway, is it possible to sand down a block of hard wood into the shape of a planish hammer and use it as a "head" for your conventional 3lbs sledge?
Jim

Good idea, I'll probably use maple. For my Pneumatic P-Hammer, I will be building it and an english wheel.

Thanks!

wow 65 pages....

cool, i wish i was as good at building stuff as you. Keep up the good work

Tom

Been awhile since I've updated. I apologize for the lack of updates. This project has to be the slowest project on AF. Waiting for parts, or something of the nature. Plus a lack of motivation lately.

So heres the update, started making the diff cover out of 22Ga 1020 steel. It will hold the mounting brackets for the IRS linkage. I'll weld it up tuesday. In the pics below I have the pieces just stacked on each other without the spacer that will be put in.

http://mike.nwwo.com/XVIII/DSCF0008.JPG
Four seperate pieces. The holes in the bottom left are where I will weld a detail piece on from the inside so there isnt a giant bead to grind off.

http://mike.nwwo.com/XVIII/DSCF0009.JPG

http://mike.nwwo.com/XVIII/DSCF0010.JPG

Enjoy, leave some feedback. Its required by AF rules. :icon16:

Bout freakin time.

Now, hurry up! I still have to peeeeeeeee!

Aha! Work! Clever with the holes for the welding and stuff.

lookin good mike. glad to see you still movin along on this thing. slowly but surely

good to finally see some updates

Ahhhh at last! some more progress! kepp it up mike!

I was at the Hobbie store the other day and saw the new 1/6 " Muscle Machine" R/C car..it was a 57 chevy and it was really beautifull. Had really nice wheels on it! Would that work for you?

I was wrong in telling you the size it was a 1/8 Scale Muscle machine but the back wheels were more like 1/6. Sorry.......

Sorry Mike, I'm Stiill Just Halfway Thru The Novell That Is this Thread(LOL)But Don't Tell Me How It Ends! By The Time I Reach The End, It Will Be Done!
Amazing Work!!!

I was at the Hobbie store the other day and saw the new 1/6 " Muscle Machine" R/C car..it was a 57 chevy and it was really beautifull. Had really nice wheels on it! Would that work for you?


dude ralph. who made this rc car? 1:6 scale rc 57 belair is right up my ally

Wow Mike, amazing! Very nice so far.

Its actually 1/8 car but the back wheels should be around 1/6th and the wheels are very nice. I saw them at WalMart for 56.00.Maybe those wheels can also be used for the 1/6 Monster garage R/C Cars like the willys. The " Muscle Machine" makes that Car. Its a 57 Chevy.

Could somebody post up the page #'s with pictures on them....

Ausland " Muscle Machines" makes the Car. Maybe i wasnt to clear on my last post. You live in Norway so i dont know if you can get them there yet. I have not seen them on Ebay yet either as they are Bran new. I will keep you posted as to when i see one.

http://www.musclemachines.com/rc/8mm/release_ab/index.asp

I hope that link works. That should take you to there page

UPDATES:

Man...oh man. This project is the most annoying, frustrating, painful, bitchy, and depressing model ever. Last night was about to go nuts. I was working on the front cross member, and I miss drilled a hole...so that is now scrap metal. Seriously...this is an annoying as hell project right now. Its all stupid busy work that doesnt really seem to be going anywhere right now. Motivation is at an all time low right now. Once this project takes a path of nearly getting a rolling chassis, I might be more motivated. Right now, its just frustrating. I hate doing things twice. [/rant]

What I did get done last night was bending the control arms. Now I've gotta' weld some tubing to 'em and stuff. So on and so forth...

http://mike.nwwo.com/XVIII/DSCF0001_0001.jpg

http://mike.nwwo.com/XVIII/DSCF0002_0001.jpg

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http://mike.nwwo.com/XVIII/DSCF0006_0001.jpg
yea...welded those extensions on the rear to hold the fuel tank.

http://mike.nwwo.com/XVIII/DSCF0008_0001.jpg

Man...I dont even feel excited to post pics since its just busy boring crap. :disappoin

Meh...try to enjoy.

Dig those plans! How are you bending the tube? The bends look great.

This has been very impressive so far. Sorry to hear that you're so bored with it. I for one am fairly amused that you insist on doing everything the long, tedious, difficult way, and then complain about every bit of it. Your progress isn't particularly slow for a project of this scope, and the work looks top notch. I'm glad to see you back to doing what you're good at, you know, welding and complaining.

Dig those plans, though, man, dig 'em!

I'm with Willimo:sunglasse Progress is good!!:)

Come on Mike, keep courage :bigthumb:

nice work man keep it up ,100% chance it will win the next model of the year

I know how you feel..... I'm struggling with my C5-R for the LeMans build, and it's no where near as huge a project as this is.

Piece by piece, it will eventually come together. I have confident that yours will also. Your skills are an inspiration. Keep on truckin!

Murray

Isn`t this the problem with every project when you scratchbuild a lot of it; It`s frustrating to only "make parts" and it doesn`t seem to go anywhere? But when the project has gotten to the rollingchassie-state, that`s when the motivation get`s a kick?
Anyway, im very impressed by your project ( and your decision to get it finished, even when inspiration is lower than a lowrider with a flat tire..)
Keep it up!! The world is full of "lost interest"-models already!

looking awesome mike. keep up the good work

Looks good Mike! nice to see some progress! Keep it up!

Don't give up Mike, it would ba a real shame not to see it at least on it's feet (wheels :)) and once you are there everything else is peace of cake :D

good to finally see some sort of an update

busy boring crap??? you're kidding, right? That thing's gonna be so awesome once it's done, and it's already a work of art the way it sits. Keep goin' Man!!

Thanks for the inspiration guys, and motivation. Last week I was at a real low, threatening to just quit. Willimo, and a few others had known about the decision. However, after talking with some of my metal shaping buddies they suggested I continue it for the better of my career. Another knows some people and can get my name out there should I choose to finish it.

I decided to pickup a new motor while they were on 50%. Im building a ford, so I wanted to use a ford. My first plan was to convert the Hemi into the Ford 427, but two months later the Ford 427 made its way into the stores. Figures. Yadda-yadda yadda, here are some pics.

http://img12.exs.cx/img12/5378/dscf001300026nc.jpg

http://img12.exs.cx/img12/2868/dscf001500023gk.jpg

Today I welded up a new jig that holds the frame at ride height, and it also holds some wheels mockups. This means that I will now be starting the foam buck. A buck is used to make templates off for steel. I am also using the buck to come up with the design. After talking with they guy that is going to help me get me name out there, suggested that I be unique. Therefore the design is altered a little.

Sorry for all the reading. Theres nothing I can take pics of except for the motor as of this moment. Once again, I really appreciate the comments. When I am low, you bring me up. When I mess up, y'all dig me out. When I'm pissed off...well, its usually best to duck low. :cwm27:

This thing's gonna scream!

Sounds good , I can`t wait to see some more progress !

That engin is freaking AWESOME I have got to buy one !

on the first pic of the 427, does the price tag say $2922, or is it $29.22 ?

Well for $2922 you can almost get the real thing :D

on the first pic of the 427, does the price tag say $2922, or is it $29.22 ?
29.99, plus the Hobby Lobby 50% off, ended up being only $15. If it was $2922, I think I would go out and buy a full scale 427. :lol: Hobby Lobby has really weird illegible price tags sometimes.

I also forgot to add that I will be converting the motor to EFI for the nice clean look. If it were muscle I'd keep the carbs...and the hemi. So an EFI conversion will follow latter.

EDIT: 1000th reply. Woot, just realized.

EDIT: 1000th reply. Woot, just realized.
And I didn't realize that I am that lucky bastard :D
I am going to buy a lottery ticket :D

nice one man pritty engine and nice to hear that with this project you can make a name for yourself good luck further and looking forward too new progress pics that car will be good enough for sema whene its done

Ooo thats a nice engine! I love the sound of the real Ford 427! Its pitty that that one does not workk.. :P Keep it up and keep on working with ít!

That engine doesnt come with the transmission? Looks good I was just woundering cause arnt you gonna haft to work on the transmission you made to fit this engine?

UPDATES:

The past couple days I've been sick and stayed home from school. When I didnt feel like shooting myself I worked on the 1/6 a little. I started work on the mockup floor pan. Still needs a little work. Then I will add some polyurethane foam on top of it and carve out a mockup of the body. This will be the basis for my templates for the steel body.

http://mike.nwwo.com/XIX/DSCF0006.JPG

http://mike.nwwo.com/XIX/DSCF0007.JPG

http://mike.nwwo.com/XIX/DSCF0008.JPG

http://mike.nwwo.com/XIX/DSCF0009.JPG

I kind of lost motivation for it today. I was hoping this post may stir up some inspiration/motivation. Right now I cant see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Thanks! Enjoy!

Right now I cant see the light at the end of the tunnel.

Oh shoot, Im sorry man, thats my fault. I was a little late on taking care of the electrical bill and they shut off the light.

Glad to see the Ace finally starting to begin to have a slight possibility of taking shape! Now get back to work!

:)

Looks good Mike! Its good to se you working on that huge thing! Keep it up!

looks real nice man what did you use for the taplets? paper or styrene?

i know that sick fealing im currently nursing a influensa so building on my models are not as i would like to but ah well more time to plan


get well soon

UPDATES:

The mockup floor pan is now complete...I think. The next step is to start adding some foam to it. Then start working on a front pan sort of deal. In the picture are some mockup wheels that I designed glued to some styrene. Just there for sizing until I get the real wheels. Im starting to get a little amped now.

http://mike.nwwo.com/XX/DSCF0001.JPG

http://mike.nwwo.com/XX/DSCF0003.JPG

http://mike.nwwo.com/XX/DSCF0005.JPG

http://mike.nwwo.com/XX/DSCF0011.JPG

http://mike.nwwo.com/XX/DSCF0016.JPG
A 1/24 on the pan to give y'all an idea. The body pan makes it look larger than the frame did. Sorry for the blurry pics. Its raining out so there is no natural light. :(

Enjoy! Leave your thoughts.

Oh, Builder, I used paper and masking tape for a basic template, and then some posterboard. After that I traced it on to posterboard.

Looks like you are getting somewhere after all, eh? What are you going to do, put the foam on the floor pan and start carving it to shape? Is that the plan?

Awsome Mike glad to see you still working on this.

Looks great so far Mike, glad to see you're still on it.

Those paper wheels are kinda' freaky ...... they remind me of those little box's of animal crackers I use to get as a kid :screwy:


Keep it up.

WOW It looks great already! I didn't realise it was that big till you put the 1/24 on it!

Mike, It looks like something now, amazing what difference a floor pan makes, can't wait to see it with the motor and tranny.

Looking awesome, keep it up.

Wow I'm really liking it the whole, Ive been looking forword too this coming to shape since you started it and now omg its just amazing. Great job mike.

Its starting to take Shape! Nice work with the chassis!

looking good mike...keep on pushin ahead

This is looking awesome. I know it's rather late, but I just joined. But, couldn't you have shapped the inside of the body pieces with wood then hammered the metal around them? It seems like it would work much better than hammering around no form. Keep up this awesome work!

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