how to drift a Front-drive?

[dbartoschek]

How doy ou drift a fwd car? I know it's easy to do in snow of loose gravel or something, but how about on the pavement......also...is it possible to do doughnuts in a fwd.....someone told me this guy was doing doughnuts in a sunfire....i find it hard to picture.

[Tony]

As someone else has put it, FWD don't drift, they drag ass. The only way to drift a FWD is to E-brake it. Now doing donuts in a FWD, if I am correct you have to go in reverse to do a donut

[Suislide]

Originally posted by dbartoschek
How doy ou drift a fwd car?

2 words: you can't.

ass dragging.

[flylwsi]

much agreed.

you can get a fwd car to oversteer, but it's not drifting...

you can control the "spin" that would occur, but you can't induce it and control it the same ways you can with rwd.

you can look like you're drifting, and use some of the same techniques, but an fwd car does drift, b/c you can't use the gas to control the rear wheels, which means you "drift/slide" until they grip, instead of like a rwd car where you can control it...

[Ragnarok043]

yes there is a technique to drift FWD cars, its called left foot braking. though this technique is mainly used for rallies its possible to use it on pavement. granted that this technique is very hard to learn but none the less it is possible to drift in a FWD.

[Cbass]

It's possible to inertia drift a FWD car using the left foot braking technique as Ragnarok explains. There isn't any real benefit to it most of the time, except on some hairpins or loose surfaces.

It's simple enough, you set up your suspension for a more or less even balance, and brake to transfer weight to the front wheels, allowing the rear wheels to lose grip before the front wheels, and inducing drift.

Actually, the ironic thing is, FWD cars can only do true inertia drift(aside from ebrake lock), wheras most RWD "drifters" are just using power to overcome the traction of the rear tires :hehehe:

[Ragnarok043]

finally someone agrees that FWDs can drift, im tired of people preaching that FWDs cant.

[Monkey-Magic-S15-R]

handbrake feint brake throttle lalalala very difficult. its an FF drift. There's a link to a drifting tips page in this forum somewhere just search for it

[Suislide]

it's still not drifting. it's just dragging. drifting is using power to overcome the loss of traction in the rear wheels (the drive wheels) and an FF car can't very well do that, now can it?

[Tony]

here we go again... haven't we went over how many different types of driftin there is? I understand monkey's point, if you can get a FWD to drift without e-brake, that is a true inertia drift, but if you use the e-brake, that is ass draggin. Overpowering the car over is a different type of drift than an inertia drift.

[flylwsi]

ok, the point is that you can't overpower the rear wheels of a fwd car.

that's the point.

you can't control the rear wheels by stomping the gas and keeping them spinning.

so you're not drifting the car.

it may look like it, but you're not if you're going by the definition.

if i drive my fwd car hard into a corner and it oversteers, i'm not going to say i was drifting, b/c i can't really control it and keep the ass out there.


that's the point.

[Tony]

I think there are different defintions of what a drift is. My first answer to this question was, no you can't drift a FWD, but after a few people comments, I have changed my mind, and I agree with them. You can drift a FWD, just takes a lot more skill.

[flylwsi]

in the true defintion of a drift, you can't get a fwd car to drift.
i feel the same way you do, but i don't consider that drifting.
drifting means you can control, usually with modulation of the gas pedal, the rear wheels, which are being driven by the engine.
in that case, fwd can't drift, b/c the rear wheels are just along for the ride.

my major keypoint here is that if you're drifting a rwd car, and wish to prolong the drift, step on the gas and keep em spinning.

you can't do that in a fwd car. so it's not really drifting.

[Ragnarok043]

Originally posted by flylwsi
in the true defintion of a drift, you can't get a fwd car to drift.
i feel the same way you do, but i don't consider that drifting.
drifting means you can control, usually with modulation of the gas pedal, the rear wheels, which are being driven by the engine.
in that case, fwd can't drift, b/c the rear wheels are just along for the ride.

my major keypoint here is that if you're drifting a rwd car, and wish to prolong the drift, step on the gas and keep em spinning.

you can't do that in a fwd car. so it's not really drifting.

read up on Left Foot Braking and come back to meyou dont need to over power the rear wheels to drift. as long as you can break traction without the use of the hand brake.

http://www.modernracer.com/tips/leftfootbraking.html

[v10_viper]

I've personally done it myself, with our minivan, reason why is there is hardly anything in the rear so it's quite light back there so it gave a nice little swing out but it tucked right back in, now if that were rear wheel you could control it and keep it out for a few extra seconds. It is definately possible when there isn't much weight over the rear axle. I will stand behind this, and prove it if I have to!