Got a turbo...and a couple questions with it

[essex]

Hey everyone...can anybody help me out , I have a few questions. 1)-does anybody have a Garrett T-3 turbo header for a d series 93 honda civic that they want to sell ? I found a really cheap turbo ( for a $100 bucks actually) that I want to drop in my D15Z 93 civic DX. Granted a ZC swap is on the way...but I want something in the mean time ( I`m tired of being the "grocery getter " in my car team....I know it`s weak and has 4 doors but come on...atleast i`m trying) 2) I`m also interested in a Zex 50-shot nitrous kit....can my just-about-stock motor handle that much ? All I have so far is an intake and exhaust....and I know i need a better ignition, better wires and plugs and all that stuff that comes with nitrous---but what can a D-series motor in stock trim handle on nitrous ?I would only use it on weekends at the local import meets--other than that it`s my daily driver and the switch would be off. 3) One of the guys in my team used to run his own shop in Illionois ( i know...don`t ask) and he suggested a hybrid SOHC VTEC switch over on a DX NON-VTEC just by switching the head over and changing the ecu and a couple of other electronics...has anybody ever heard of this? I used to give him some credability on what he said untill today when i saw him put some window tinting on and mess up alot. Well that`s about all I can think of right now...and I really appreciate any help anybody can give me .....Thanks alot

[fjt]

Go to ZEX.com.. There's a 92 hatch runing ZEX nitrous kit on stock interals.. It runs 13 sec. he he.

Ohh It is called a Turbo Manifold, not turbo Header.. You might want to check www.optauto.com they sell turbo manifolds that might fit your hatch.

[97teg]

for the vtec head job you're talking about, yes it is possible. i've never heard of anyone doing that on a D-motor, you may want to look into it.

but its commonly referred to as lsvtec or frankenstein. lsvtec is when you take the bottom end of an ls integ motor and mate it with another b-series vtec head. there are advantages and disadvantages to doing this. there is more to it than just replacing the ecu. i dont know what electronics you're talking about(the only electronic part i can think of is the ecu), but it is not a small job.

[fjt]

Originally posted by 97teg
for the vtec head job you're talking about, yes it is possible. i've never heard of anyone doing that on a D-motor, you may want to look into it.

but its commonly referred to as lsvtec or frankenstein. lsvtec is when you take the bottom end of an ls integ motor and mate it with another b-series vtec head. there are advantages and disadvantages to doing this. there is more to it than just replacing the ecu. i dont know what electronics you're talking about(the only electronic part i can think of is the ecu), but it is not a small job.

Actually he's talking about adding the VTEC to the D series SOHC Non Vtec engine, not about the LS/vtec swap. The LS is DOHC..

You can do it by getting an EX head(complete-->Head + vtec solenoid,intake manifold, ECU or Vtec controller)preferably from the same generation civic with the VTEC ECU. This changeove usally cost around 500 dollars.

[drift]

swapping to a later model VTEC head on that motor will create what's called a "mini-me" setup, and is not recommended if you're planning to run boost. the head on the later D series motors is shallower, thus will increase the compression on your motor once completed, and will make turbocharging a bit more hairy, especially on a stock block.

as for running nitrous AND turbo on a stock motor, forget it. increasing cylinder pressure with forced induction is the same as raising compression. adding nitrous will increase dynamic compression to unrealistic amounts for a daily driver. your first shot would probably knock at least the rings off the pistons, if not bend all your rods at once. you'll need a significant motor buildup to handle the increased pressure and horsepower.

as for a turbo manifold, they have an extension that adapts the stock manifold primaries to fit a T3 flange.

also look to Revhard for a possible solution.

lastly, the $100 turbo probably needs to be rebuilt. even if it "spins freely" and "doesnt contact the housing", you have no idea how much bearing wear and seal leakage there is internally. if you havent taken it apart at all, you also have no idea how much damage there may be to the compressor and exhaust wheel majors, possible pitting on the turbine shaft, etc.

[Frostbyte]

Originally posted by 97teg
for the vtec head job you're talking about, yes it is possible. i've never heard of anyone doing that on a D-motor, you may want to look into it.

but its commonly referred to as lsvtec or frankenstein. lsvtec is when you take the bottom end of an ls integ motor and mate it with another b-series vtec head. there are advantages and disadvantages to doing this. there is more to it than just replacing the ecu. i dont know what electronics you're talking about(the only electronic part i can think of is the ecu), but it is not a small job.

That is what they call a mini-me swap. I heard of a lot of people doing that. All the D-Series parts are swapable.

[Frostbyte]

Originally posted by drift
swapping to a later model VTEC head on that motor will create what's called a "mini-me" setup, and is not recommended if you're planning to run boost. the head on the later D series motors is shallower, thus will increase the compression on your motor once completed, and will make turbocharging a bit more hairy, especially on a stock block.

as for running nitrous AND turbo on a stock motor, forget it. increasing cylinder pressure with forced induction is the same as raising compression. adding nitrous will increase dynamic compression to unrealistic amounts for a daily driver. your first shot would probably knock at least the rings off the pistons, if not bend all your rods at once. you'll need a significant motor buildup to handle the increased pressure and horsepower.

as for a turbo manifold, they have an extension that adapts the stock manifold primaries to fit a T3 flange.

also look to Revhard for a possible solution.

lastly, the $100 turbo probably needs to be rebuilt. even if it "spins freely" and "doesnt contact the housing", you have no idea how much bearing wear and seal leakage there is internally. if you havent taken it apart at all, you also have no idea how much damage there may be to the compressor and exhaust wheel majors, possible pitting on the turbine shaft, etc.

Actually Drift if he were to swap a D16z6 head it would not increase the Comp Ratio to much because my car stock with is the D16z6 SOHC VTEC is only running about a 9.5:1 Comp Ratio and he also has a pretty light car. I think swapping that head with a Greddy Turbo and a 30 shot of NOS would do wonders for your DX. I wish you lived over here I would love to help you out with this.