Target: 200+ hp (at wheels)

[xivera]

Ok... Here we go...
I'd say that my car is making close 100 hp at the wheels.
What's the quickest/cheapest way to propel my car to the tune of 200+ hp (at wheels) without nitrous?

[LjasonL]

look at a vortech supercharger kit, i dunno the exact power at the wheels for the ex is but turbo magazine dynoed a bone stock new si with one and it put 240 something hp to the wheels, they dynoed a new si with intake, header, exhaust, and vortech kit and got 272 hp at the wheels. impressive to say the least, im trying to find a vortech kit for my subaru.

[Rice-Rocketeer]

LS swap with a junkyard turbo setup

[Swonder67]

You wanna double your WHP? well, it's not gonna be cheap any way you do it. I would go with some type of forced induction. A vortech supercharger kit would cost around 2000-2500. I would twin turbo it, (yeah, two turbos for a 4 cyl), New ECU, exhaust, pulley kit, blah blah blah. basically, it won't be quick and it won't be cheap

[xivera]

ldelaysionl I'm still waiting for Vortech to release any info for the D16 supercharger... What gives?

Originally posted by Rice-Rocketeer
LS swap with a junkyard turbo setup

What's wrong with a B20? Will that still run high bux for getting the right parts to go along with it? And, if drift can find a T3 for $50, so can I!

Swonder67 I have a system so... pulleys is out of the question. However, I can dig the twin turbo setup. 1 small one + a bigger one.

[delsolguy]

B20Z with a turbo = mucho fun :bandit:

[Swonder67]

Originally posted by xivera
ldelaysionl I'm still waiting for Vortech to release any info for the D16 supercharger... What gives?

What's wrong with a B20? Will that still run high bux for getting the right parts to go along with it? And, if drift can find a T3 for $50, so can I!

Swonder67 I have a system so... pulleys is out of the question. However, I can dig the twin turbo setup. 1 small one + a bigger one.

You can always get a second battery, and caps maybe a performance alternator. But when you do forced induction, Pulleys add alot of HP. I would get two small turbos, because two small turbos are easier to spool up than one big one. But you better start lookin in the couch cushions for spare change now.

[Swonder67]

Here's a link for Jackson racing Supercharger your your car. It dosn't say that much about it. 2400 bucks...

http://www.civicsuperstore.com/asp/v...?partNum=D16Y8

[ric]

new pistons
new rods
block guard
drag or fmax turbo kit at about 14psi
new injectors (only with drag kit)
clutch & flywheel

[trmi-nate]

you don't want a twin turbo setup on a small displacement motor like your (and mine) ex. The time for the turbos to both spool up would equal about the time you would be shifting gears, and you wouldn't really be making good speed improvements. It is true that you would make awesome power in those last few milliseconds before redline, but it's simply not realistic for real life driving. If your car was for show and you wanted to display posters of your dyno sheets maybe

[LjasonL]

im waiting for vortech to release a kit for a 2.5L subaru, but all the popular imports get it 1st. not fair!

[Rice-Rocketeer]

Originally posted by xivera
What's wrong with a B20? Will that still run high bux for getting the right parts to go along with it? And, if drift can find a T3 for $50, so can I!

I'm thinking if you want the absolute cheapest thing possible, the LS wins. And any bolt on turbo kit is gonna cost ATLEAST $2500-$3000. So a B20 turbo would be atleast $5000 plus labor. IF you could get friends and someone who doesn't want thier LS engine, you could get a small turbo from a DSM or something in a junkyard, run custom tubing to a beat up (Which you will spend lots of time cleaning) intercooler. The only thing you'd need to get is a used turbo manifold and you're set. Careful tuning and dyno time COULD get you where you want to go with out spending a fortune. But remember it's all a compromise.

[Trinity]

if you go turbo get REVHARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[VTEC_boi]

[quote]

Originally posted by Trinity
if you go turbo get REVHARD!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

Is a tubular exhaust manifold really neccessary on a street car?

I think a cast manifold will do just as good w/o the higher temperatures. Also, you won't be going for a crap load of power so a cast manifold sounds good.

peace
boi

[eightysix]

NOS!!!!!!!