Target: Iran

[jon@af]

You know, in any other case, it might surprise me that Bush is going to push for another confrontation. At the beginning of the Iraq war, I was like "Okay, the troops are there, I might as well support them until the get the job done so this Iraq stuff can end." But now that Ive heard of this problem with Iran, I am honestly questioning Bush and his ethics and strategy. I just wish that the American people could be given something to focus on other than worrying if their trigger-happy president is going to spark WWIII or not. How does everyone else feel?

[Prelewd]

I think it's like the southpark with the aliens sucking eachother's nurbs. Earth is just a big TV show for the rest of the universe, and to keep the ratings up and not get cancelled, Bush needs to start a few wars. He's just keeping everyone's best intersts in mind.

[Milliardo]

Originally posted by Prelewd
He's just keeping everyone's best intersts in mind.

Oh yes, wars must be for everyone's best interests. I'm sure his oil magnate backers, the arms dealers, the military are happy about it. I guess most of his constituency also comprise these same people, which would then be "everyone" in this case then.

At least now one of you is beginning to doubt your President's morality, if not yet his sanity. I would hope people there would not be insane as to actually give him a second term, or else WWIII wouldn't be far off. And that's just in the international front. We have also discussed at length what might happen in the local scene.

[texan]

Originally posted by ILike2DriveCars
You know, in any other case, it might surprise me that Bush is going to push for another confrontation. At the beginning of the Iraq war, I was like "Okay, the troops are there, I might as well support them until the get the job done so this Iraq stuff can end." But now that Ive heard of this problem with Iran, I am honestly questioning Bush and his ethics and strategy. I just wish that the American people could be given something to focus on other than worrying if their trigger-happy president is going to spark WWIII or not. How does everyone else feel?

What specific problem and talk of possible war are you referring to concerning Iran?

[jon@af]

Originally posted by texan


What specific problem and talk of possible war are you referring to concerning Iran?

What was the main concern of Iraq besides oil? Ill give you a hint: They havent found any yet.

[texan]

Errr, could you please answer my question? I thought there might be something new in the news I didn't know about, and instead I get that?

[jon@af]

Originally posted by texan
Errr, could you please answer my question? I thought there might be something new in the news I didn't know about, and instead I get that?

I apologize. I figured with the hint I gave it would have been pretty easy. Bush is speculating that Iran has WMD and is basically pulling the same business with them as he did with Iraq.

[taranaki]

Here's a link to a news item on the subject.

http://www.voanews.com/article.cfm?o...E5E2E51AA549A8

If I was an Iranian,I'd be very concerned.George Bush has already shown himself more than willing to commit troops to imagined threats.

[Prelewd]

Originally posted by Milliardo


Oh yes, wars must be for everyone's best interests. I'm sure his oil magnate backers, the arms dealers, the military are happy about it. I guess most of his constituency also comprise these same people, which would then be "everyone" in this case then.

At least now one of you is beginning to doubt your President's morality, if not yet his sanity. I would hope people there would not be insane as to actually give him a second term, or else WWIII wouldn't be far off. And that's just in the international front. We have also discussed at length what might happen in the local scene.

I shouldn't even bother.. but lighten up milliardo.. It was clearly not serious.

[ales]

Iran is one of the most militarised if not the most militarised country in the middle East (and not too far from the top in the World).

Iran has the biggest army in the middle East, and the most well-trained army too.

Iran has not been weakened by more than a decade of economic sanctions.

Neither has Iran has been weakened by a weapons' import embargo, or UN inspections trying to find WMD or long-range weapons. They might actually have WMD (and have every right o do so, but this is beyond the point).

What is not beyond the point, though, is that Iran is a truly Islamic country and any confrontation will be seen by the Islamic world as another crusade (heh!), and the other countries will not let it slide like they did with Iraq.

Irani (sp) army is equipped with all the latest weapons that you can think of.

Bottom line: I'd think twice, then some more, and still not go there.

[texan]

Ok, thanks for the link. While I certainly don't like Iranian government or the fact that they have state run terrorist organizations, I don't see any reason to go to war with them based upon anything said so far. I would be 100% against it.

[TexasF355F1]

I really don't think that the U.S. will go into another war right now. It's not economically smart, but who knows, I'm not the government, and I don't have time to watch the news now with FINALS coming in only 3 days. TV's and whats going on in the world is the last thing on my mind right now.

[YogsVR4]

Originally posted by Milliardo

I would hope people there would not be insane as to actually give him a second term, or else WWIII wouldn't be far off. And that's just in the international front. We have also discussed at length what might happen in the local scene.[/font]

Sorry, you are going to be disappointed. He will win his second term quite easily. You've demonstrated a complete lack of understanding our politics and population. Police state, WWIII Whats next, that he went back in time and deflected the iceberg into the Titanic?

[Cbass]

Originally posted by YogsVR4


Sorry, you are going to be disappointed. He will win his second term quite easily. You've demonstrated a complete lack of understanding our politics and population. Police state, WWIII Whats next, that he went back in time and deflected the iceberg into the Titanic?

Why don't you explain how the US population and politics work? That 9 out 10 Americans get all their info from controlled media outlets, such as CNN, USA Today, the NY Times, etc... That these media outlets are all owned by republican oriented corporations, and say whatever the Bush administration asks of them...

Remember the rush to impeach Clinton? I do. Yet do we hear about Dubya deserting his post in time of war, to pursue a political career? No. American media outlets frantically bark about Iraq violating the Geneva Convention by showing US POWs on TV, after the US has invaded without provocation. Do we hear about how the prisoners in Guantanamo Bay are being tortured by every means known, through sensory and sleep deprivation, physical torture, etc? Who are these prisoners? They are ALLEGED terrorists, the allegations forwarded by Dubya. So if he declared me a terrorist, and had the INS arrest me, he could ship me to Camp X-Ray, and do these things to me as well.

How about how the majority of US adults don't even vote, because regardless of who they vote for, the important issues would be resolved in teh same manner either way, in the interests of the rich.

[texan]

Originally posted by Cbass


Why don't you explain how the US population and politics work? That 9 out 10 Americans get all their info from controlled media outlets, such as CNN, USA Today, the NY Times, etc... That these media outlets are all owned by republican oriented corporations, and say whatever the Bush administration asks of them...

Remember the rush to impeach Clinton? I do. Yet do we hear about Dubya deserting his post in time of war, to pursue a political career? No. American media outlets frantically bark about Iraq violating the Geneva Convention by showing US POWs on TV, after the US has invaded without provocation. Do we hear about how the prisoners in Guantanamo Bay are being tortured by every means known, through sensory and sleep deprivation, physical torture, etc? Who are these prisoners? They are ALLEGED terrorists, the allegations forwarded by Dubya. So if he declared me a terrorist, and had the INS arrest me, he could ship me to Camp X-Ray, and do these things to me as well.

How about how the majority of US adults don't even vote, because regardless of who they vote for, the important issues would be resolved in teh same manner either way, in the interests of the rich.

Let's see, how to pick this apart.

1) Cite your sources.

Other objections will follow from that. Beyond that everything in your post is anqualified opinion. I mean really, 90% of Americans getting their news from government "controlled" outlets?