Gimie car suggestions! So many choices...

[Cyprus106]

OK, I'm looking into a different set of wheels. I officially hate my Civic, as I have for months now, with a passion.
This is actually going to be a companies promotional project car, so it has to have some decent aftermarket availability and appeal. Civics are WAY to generic. Something that runs under like $12K.

I was thinking maybe along the lines of an Eagle Talon Tsi... but how long do they last, normally? Being old like they are they've got to have high miles. We've got to take this to shows and shit, so I don't want to dump all sorts of cash into it and then have it break down halfway to HIN or something.

Definately going to buy used. Don't want another Honda. Anybody got some suggestions? Anything? Anybody know how much insurance is on an RX-7? I can get one for cheap as shit but that rotary engine is just so damn imtimidating!


^^ I've been wanting to use a sign smilie for like a month now. badass.

[carrrnuttt]

Sentra SE-R or NX2000. You have NO idea how happy I am with my car.

People look at it and think they're going to outrun me on a merge or something...and they get surprised.

I swear this thing feels just as fast as when I still had the stock b16 in my 1990 Integra. All I've done is the ignition timing "mod". VERY low 15's can be had with just that.

Oh, did I mention it cost me 1,800 dollars? Another 3,000, I'd be in the low 13's (SR20DET swap, including installation).

[fearless_simian]

I fyou are worried about reliability I might suggest caution on the eagle talon. I had two friends with those and both had serious problems. I've also heard horror stories from the rx-7's. They are both fun cars though.

[Cyprus106]

I've heard horror stories too. The rotary engines just don't last that long. I've had a few friends with RX-7s and they haven't lasted long past 100K miles.

[maXroOt]

hmm... ive heard of multiple ppl w/ over 200k miles, and car still runs strong

[BeEfCaKe]

I never understand you people.. you say "I hear this.. I hear that", why don't you think for a minute. Out of all the people out there that drive 7's, maybe a couple have problems with their cars(as with all other cars). These few people start spreading the myth that rotaries are unreliable. But what about all the other rotary owners out there that are really happy with their cars? Their stories don't get spread as much. Why you ask? Well.. would you tell someone about how "reliable" someone else's car is in a conversation?? Nobody cares...

[2strokebloke]

Well rotary engines are reliable, just relatively short lived - my grandfather worked for NSU back in the rotary days (you know, the Wankel Spider and the Ro-80 right?) they had lots and lots of problems - most of which Mazda has since solved, the RX-7 is a pretty reliable car, don't be scared by it. First Generation RX-7s can be had for pretty fair prices (and I think they're the best looking of the bunch)

[fatninja19]

What does your company specialize in??? How about a MkIII Supra Turbo?

[Cyprus106]

ninja - Actually, it looks like a TT Supra is what we're going to get. It's pretty much come down to either a Supra, RX-7 or an MR2. MR2 is kind of tossed in there and is on it's way right back out.

I never understand you people.. you say "I hear this.. I hear that", why don't you think for a minute. Out of all the people out there that drive 7's, maybe a couple have problems with their cars(as with all other cars). These few people start spreading the myth that rotaries are unreliable. But what about all the other rotary owners out there that are really happy with their cars? Their stories don't get spread as much. Why you ask? Well.. would you tell someone about how "reliable" someone else's car is in a conversation?? Nobody cares...

Well rotary engines aren't exactly the major thing on the market... because they have lots of problems. And there aren't exactly a whole bunch of RX-7s flooding the market. I owned a rotary (not an RX-7, which is probably why it sucked so bad) at one point in time and it pretty much blew ass. Which pretty much shot my outlook on rotaries to shit.

[Donham]

Originally posted by carrrnuttt
Sentra SE-R or NX2000. You have NO idea how happy I am with my car.

People look at it and think they're going to outrun me on a merge or something...and they get surprised.

I swear this thing feels just as fast as when I still had the stock b16 in my 1990 Integra. All I've done is the ignition timing "mod". VERY low 15's can be had with just that.

Oh, did I mention it cost me 1,800 dollars? Another 3,000, I'd be in the low 13's (SR20DET swap, including installation).

Eagle Talons (Mitsubishi DSM) are niot any less relieable than other japanese cars or probably any other typical car, it's just when you start to increase hoursepower, you start breaking things, those DSM's are about the cheapest way to go fast for a japanese car...
There is a guy on the Moparstyle forums
who not only builds 440 mopars, but has a Talon AWD tis turbo... the car look 100% stock but runs like 12.06 in the 1/4...
he says it has 400 WHP (weel horse power), probably 500 at the crank..

Y ou can make 300-350 hp out of those cars CHEAP at the weels, and thats probably why you hear bad stories about them...
Where a Supra, 3000GT, Skyline is going to cost a fortune to get, and to get low 12's another fortune.... so less peeple probably have 12 sec 300Zx's than 2 sec Talons...
more HP means more broken parts... Go figure!
Same with the RX-7's.. The parts wear out fast, but at least there is no connecting rods to fly through the block when maing big HP.. just have to rebuild em often..
You start making 400-500-600 hp on 4 or 6 dinky connecting rods, and some time or another one is gonna fly through the block if you keep racing it, where a big old V8 has 8 gigantic rods to absorb the powr, anbd the RX-7's have none....
The Qquickest street legal modifuied Japanese cars are RX-7's...

IF I was going to ever buy a japanese car (i'm not) to play with, the DSM (Talons, Eclips etc) would be what I'd start with...
Start with the intake tubles, filters, inlets, Wastegate chips, exhaust...

Doller per doller (for quickeness) no other japanese car can match those DSM Mitsubishis for the 1/4 mile.

I don't really care about em, but as cheap as people can get them, you know the money they save can go into mods...
got to give you a gut feeling when you pull up along side a 1990 Talon Tsi at a stoplight... he's probably not paying an extra $300 a month in payments like the Skyline guy does every month, might have had the car a year, with $3600 extra you might wander as you look over at him, "Could he had used some of that money he saved for a few mods?


Buy the DSM

scott

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