5.0 Vs. 3000gt

[eillob]

This is your comparison not mine. Im into drag racing. I could care less about cornering. Why do all these rice guys keep comming here comparing there rice to american muscle. In case you havent noticed this is a mustang forum. If you wanna do this kind of comarison your in the wrong forum.

Supras, Skylines, the 300z (maybe a VR-4, maybe)although very respectable rides are still rice. Expensive rice but rice non the less. Dont start talking to me about an escort ZX2, Please. I ve said it once I'll say it again ESCORTS SUCK. I don't care how fast it is or how much money you've got wrapped up in it. At the end of the day an escort is still an escort and it still sucks.

Everytime we get into this kind of a debate we get into O my car can out handle a mustang in the corners. O really? Guess what who cares. If I was interested in a car that could do that I would own one. For the money and god for bid I had to choose a ricer it sure as hell ain't gonna be an overpriced heavy VR-4, civic si, or a nissan sentra se-r. And I aint buying no damn Escorts. If it had to be rice its gonna be something that looks good and has respectable stats.

Do you event own a VR-4? Why are you trying to sell me on something you don't even have. You keep telling me about this damn escort.

I don't want to turn this into a pissing match because that is what it is turning into. If you wanna go get your VR-4 go ahead. If I ever get interested in something besides drag racing I'll let you know.

[zx2srdotnet]

you sir are an ignorant fool, rice is a civic with rims, kit system and just an intake and muffler, not high performance twin turbo v6

I care about VR-4's because my uncle owns a VR-4 Spyder.

and as for you "its an escort"
at teh end of the day your "5.0 with headers an basic bolt ons" is still a 10 yr old car. and the Escorts have less TSB's(10 vs 16) then the Cobras so your just an escort coments are worthless seeing how a car that is 15k fully loaded has less peoblems then a 35k Cobra

face it all your coments were uneducated and you dont know much about cars unless it has a horse on it

[eillob]

You own an escort, your posting in a MUSTANG forum about your uncles VR-4 (a vehicle you yourself don't own). And Im the fool????

As far as my rice comment is concerned thats a term I and many others in this forum tend to use to describe japanese cars. You don't like it, LEAVE.

And as far as your comparison of a $15K escort and a $35K Cobra. If there was ever a worthless argument....THIS IS IT. Don't whine because you can't have it. Besides anyone who spends that kind of money on an escort should have there head examined.

OH and by the way, yes your right. A 5.0 with basic bolt ons is still a ten year old car.....................and it will still kick the shit out of your 15K dollar escort.

[Rod&Custom]

Thats right buddy!! The only cool cars from across the creek are German. Why does that VR-4 need 4 wheel steering? You going to go off-road with it? Why does it need a retractable hardtop? Why does it need AWD? It doesn't. Eillob was dead-on when he said that anyone spending 15k on an escort needs their head-examined. You came in here with a point you wanted to make about cheap jap cars. Well your not getting anywhere with us bud, so find someone else to bother. You even had the balls to ruin our thread. This wasn't a general rice vs. muscle, it was a specific 3000GT vs 5.0 Notch, so why say we aren't comparing properly? It isn't our fault that the lame Mitsubishi would get slammed by a 5.0.

[thunderbird muscle]

^lol^

[zx2srdotnet]

[quote=eillob]And as far as your comparison of a $15K escort and a $35K Cobra. If there was ever a worthless argument....THIS IS IT[quote]

so your comparison of a 26k 5.0 vs a 44k VR-4 was any better? NO so your argument was just as worthless, the VR-4 was made for handeling and for straight performance and the mustang was behind the VR-4 in both untill 99

[zx2srdotnet]

Originally Posted by Rod&Custom

. Why does that VR-4 need 4 wheel steering? You going to go off-road with it? Why does it need a retractable hardtop? Why does it need AWD? It doesn't. Eillob was dead-on when he said that anyone spending 15k on an escort needs their head-examined

4-wheel stearing, because the car was also designed to be up todate and unice in handleling and cornering, if you thing 4-wheel steering is only for off road the you are a hick

retractable hard top because it again was ment to be uptodate and have stuff that not every car has - IE make it worht the price tag

AWD again for good perfoamnce, a good launch for inline perfomance and so that in slippery contitions it will handle better then your stang that can just have the rear slip out

and name me any dealer that carried a brand new ZX2 fully loaded for less then 15k, hell show me any place with a fully loaded focus for less then 15k a 04 zx3 (the cheapest model) with out options is 13,500.
anyone that pays 18,700 for a v6 stang that is only as quick as a Escort and is higher on gas and insurance needs their head-examined. or the people that pay like 40k for a slow ass ugly thunderbird are even more stupid

[eillob]

Well if I remember correctly this form was 5.0 vs 3000GT. You threw the VR-4 into the picture. Wrong place for this type of post but I entertained you anyway.

Now getting back to your comment. "The Mustang was behind the VR-4 until 99".

Ok................Now what. I won't argue that. For the additional $18K dollars you would have to spend to get the VR-4 it better. Your still preaching to the choir. Assuming I had to choose between a 99 GT or a 99 VR-4. I still wouldn't buy it because I think its a rip off. I can take a $28K mustang slap a supercharger on it redue the exhaust and destroy your VR-4 and still walk away with 13K in my pocket.

All of this is pointless when it comes to you because you have neither. Now do this, go look out in your driveway. You see that piece of crap parked out there? Its standing in the way of you getting laid. Quit making excuses for it and burn it, sell it, push it off of a cliff. Do whatever you gotta do to get rid it because this not getting laid thing is warping your thinking. Now stop sucking your uncles d*ck and buy a real car.

[StangNut86]

arguments like this give car guys a bad name. aren't we all in the same boat? so what if one car's better than the other. if you like it that's all that you should be concerned with. and just because you make fun of somebody else's car doesn't mean you disrespect their tastes and the choices they've made. even if it's rice, if a car's fast enough to be a street competitor, i'll respect it and its owner.

anyway, what are we doing resurrecting 4 month old threads? close this crap already....

[GTStang]

Originally Posted by zx2srdotnet

and as for you "its an escort"
at teh end of the day your "5.0 with headers an basic bolt ons" is still a 10 yr old car.

Let me ask you a simple question what gets more looks and drool coming from people.... A sweet 5.0 Mustang with an exhuast rumbling by or a brand new escort? You know the answer so don't bother...


As for the rest of this thread you and the people you argueing with are both in the wrong here but you ZX2RDOTnet come in here and tend to start a lot of shit so either stop or stay out of the Mustang forum.


HiFlow close this when you get a chance.

[zx2srdotnet]

no i came here to say that a stock VR-4 is faster then a stock 5.0 but for some reason people refuse to believe a import can be faster then a 5.0, read the past posts i didnt start this, the people that flamed the idea of a 5.0 losing to a TTv6 started it.

and hmmm 5.0 that ever other person has or a car they only made 2000 of? i'll take the rare car every time. performance straightline isnt everything, besides i can out handle any stock mustang (besides a cobra-R) in my stock Escort if i choose to.

I like to be different, you can see 20 or more mustangs in a day, but you can go months between seeing one S/R and another on the road.

[Thourun]

Before this gets closed I'd like to put in my 2 cents. I have a 3000gt SL and it is just what I want in a car right now, a cheap used car that is a sports car (not to be mistaken with muscle) that is rare and looks better than a thousand mustangs or supras. The whole 5.0 vs 3000GT is a drivers race because they are very close no matter what anyone says, if both drivers are of equal skill the stang would take it, but not by enough to say "I smoked that 3000 lbs of rice" or some other snide remark. One big thing that hurts the base/SL 3000GT is the fact that it is a FWD car, which is just plain stupid if you ask me but other than that I love my car. Close this thread.

[emokid15]

This is getting funnier every hour LOL

[GTStang]

Originally Posted by zx2srdotnet

no i came here to say that a stock VR-4 is faster then a stock 5.0 but for some reason people refuse to believe a import can be faster then a 5.0, read the past posts i didnt start this, the people that flamed the idea of a 5.0 losing to a TTv6 started it.

and hmmm 5.0 that ever other person has or a car they only made 2000 of? i'll take the rare car every time. performance straightline isnt everything, besides i can out handle any stock mustang (besides a cobra-R) in my stock Escort if i choose to.

I like to be different, you can see 20 or more mustangs in a day, but you can go months between seeing one S/R and another on the road.

See you need to stop now.... I did not go back and really pick your posts apart. I told you to stop and relax and I even said the people argue with you were to blame also. But your gonna keep goign I have a feeling you'll be banned.

Only made 2,000 what.... escorts...... 2,000 VR4's...... LoL

Tell you what I'll take a stock 87 5.0 5-speed Mustang and you can take your Escort and we will goto LimeRock Race track and we'll see how well you out handle the Stang. You ricers.... and yes you talk like a ricer think if the car can take a turn better but is gutless on the straightaways you'll win. It takes more to win a roadrace than skipad and slalom numbers. But you wouldn't understand that cause you nor 90% of the ricers who say but my car can turn have ever been on a real roadtrack with your car!

If all you care about is being different go drive a yugo that will get the ladies panties wet.

[thunderbird muscle]

I was laughing now I say close it. This is just getting out of hand.

Did you bring the (the people that pay like 40k for a slow ass ugly thunderbird are even more stupid)up for me. Because if you were My car didn't cost any where near 40k even brand new. The new ones aren't really a sports car anyway.

Quit trying to start wars! Go some where you are wanted. If there is such a place.