GM: Bring back the Geo

[TomsForeign]

Originally Posted by speediva

Go for an old Subaru!

Admittedly, I don't know what the SVX is actually supposed to get mileage-wise, but even my Forester can pull 24mpg city!

My friend had an svx, we beat the hell out of it. It broke constantly but we just kept rigging it back together. Theres some serious fanatics of those cars also.

[GeoRandy]

Originally Posted by uRabbit

Actually, the highest rating for a '97 Metro is 44mpg ( http://www.fueleconomy.gov/feg/compx...Field=Findacar )

But you're right; it's absolutely ridiculous...

That link is not not right. I know better. I own and drive one, as I posted.

I did not research who did those rankings in the link you posted but I know for a fact that my '97 Geo Metro was rated 52mpg highway. It said so on the sticker and in other mpg data that I have seen. Reread my post for factual numbers. Mine is the 3 cylinder. Come see me and I will show you 50 mpg.

I do appreciate your concern and post. I think those numbers in your link are flaky. They might be true for those cars pictured that have not been taken care of, and I don't know about the 4 cylinder models regarding their mpg. But my post is truthful and factual.

[GeoRandy]

Originally Posted by Murco

This escaped my attention the first time I read through this thread, how has "big oil" killed the car market, and what is your definition of so-called "big oil"? Are you not more concerned about big government? Are you one of those who blasts Exxon-Mobil profits? If so, please notice that Exxon only made .02 cents per gallon of gas they sold and the federal government made .23 cents per gallon! Who is really the "big" problem??!!

Yea, you're probably the only one who does. Those cars were horrible when new and I doubt yours has gotten better with age. What killed your car is the market's lack of interest in a tiny, tinny car that had awful crash protection and sketchy handling at anything above 50 mph.

I don't know where to begin with this paragraph but I'll start with your belief that government is the answer to everything. Let me assure you, government "guidance" and "planning" is the shortest path to the lowest common denominator. You have to look at the history of government intervention, or just look at cities or states in the US that are "government heavy" such as Detroit, Washington DC, or California. All are BROKE and BROKEN, EPIC FAILURES! Who among Washington DC's 452 congressmen has any background in building cars? How many are doctors? How many are teachers? How many are road engineers? How many are home builders? Hell, how many have even held jobs in the private sector? I'll answer for you, in order - 0, 3, 2, 0, 0, 63... Very little to no experience in these fields yet you want them to plan for these industries and your life. Are you serious? Most of these people are career politicians and are only interested in 2 things, controlling your world and lining their pockets and power structure while they do it. Does that sound like someone you want to entrust your future too? EVERYTHING the government has ever done, outside of the military, has caused unintended consequences that have ranged from just too expensive to disasterous. Our current economic woes were directly caused government policies and planning. The United States didn't become the greatest country on Earth because of government, it did so because for the first time in human history men were unburdened by governmentl largess! The larger the government has grown the worse things have gotten for America.
Read some history and re-evaluate your perspective...

And here is an example of government run education!

Murco, about my first post that you attacked and think you may speak for others. You are clueless about my Geo Metro. And, wrong. You obviously haven't spent much time behind the wheel of one. Nope, don't say you have.


About my other paragraph that you attacked. You obviously missed my point. My point is/was this: We the people need to elect (and hire) representatives in government who are planners, architects, physisists, doctors etc. and not career polititians who are interested in lining their own pockets and uninterested in "we the people" and hold them accountable. Why don't we? From listening to you, why should we have government at all? The only positive you mentioned was the military, who has raped the American public in cost overruns for decades, not to mention government allowed tax loopholes for them. I, personally, am not for government largeness, I am for government efficiency with a long range plan that we can all back and be proud of, for future generations.

[grider]

i also think the metro was a great car but geting rid of proformance and fulsize trucks is bad biz i am american and i love my truck (gmc) my camero and i also have a lumina and will not give up any of them

[GeoRandy]

Originally Posted by grider

i also think the metro was a great car but geting rid of proformance and fulsize trucks is bad biz i am american and i love my truck (gmc) my camero and i also have a lumina and will not give up any of them

Right. Of course we need trucks (think construction and trailering, just to name a very few reasons) and sports cars for enthusiasts.

[grider]

Originally Posted by GeoRandy

Murco, about my first post that you attacked and think you may speak for others. You are clueless about my Geo Metro. And, wrong. You obviously haven't spent much time behind the wheel of one. Nope, don't say you have.


About my other paragraph that you attacked. You obviously missed my point. My point is/was this: We the people need to elect (and hire) representatives in government who are planners, architects, physisists, doctors etc. and not career polititians who are interested in lining their own pockets and uninterested in "we the people" and hold them accountable. Why don't we? From listening to you, why should we have government at all? The only positive you mentioned was the military, who has raped the American public in cost overruns for decades, not to mention government allowed tax loopholes for them. I, personally, am not for government largeness, I am for government efficiency with a long range plan that we can all back and be proud of, for future generations.

i am prior service and you are wecome and i fought for your right to be ignorant of what we do for so again you are welcome

[grider]

Originally Posted by khung88876

Besides gas engines are going to be a thing of the past, were all being lied to about Free energy, Alien technology, Magnetic motors, Engines that run on compressed air, Magnetic Generators that can power your home FOREVER, just take a look around You Tube for these things I've said, It's all a big lie, to keep oil companies in business so they can stay in the pockets of politicans, see how they all work together.

gas is here to stay for atleast our lifetime the world we live in is run on it and as for government they need to stay out of private cittizens lives and protect each from others not us from our selves i prefer a hard free life to an easy controled existance

[GeoRandy]

Originally Posted by grider

i am prior service and you are wecome and i fought for your right to be ignorant of what we do for so again you are welcome

Thank you for your service.
Right to be ignorant? You make me laugh.
Now clue us in, if you know it all. Start a different thread if you wish to continue.
By the way, I am sorry for my part in hijacking this quality thread uRabbit.
Bring back the Geo.

[grider]

Originally Posted by GeoRandy

Thank you for your service.
Right to be ignorant? You make me laugh.
Now clue us in, if you know it all. Start a different thread if you wish to continue.
By the way, I am sorry for my part in hijacking this quality thread uRabbit.
Bring back the Geo.

i dont know every thing but i do know whats best for me may not be best for you so why would i try to tell you how to live and what you should or can do i feel that each man or woman should be responsible for there own success or failure and i understand that a lot of pepole would not thrive but hey if you are a strong or smart or even willing to earn it you can be as great as you desrve to be on your own merit not cause you feel deserve it you only deserve what you can earn i feel that this would be a better world if we all mind our own and work toward bettering ourselves and our own familys not trying to police others personal choices fredom is your ability to do what every you want as long as it dose not interfear with others fredoms so i dont think you stupid just ignorant they are not the same ignorant is not an insult its more of a free pass to think what ever you want without reason see off topic for discussion freedom

[Murco]

Originally Posted by GeoRandy

Murco, about my first post that you attacked and think you may speak for others. You are clueless about my Geo Metro. And, wrong. You obviously haven't spent much time behind the wheel of one. Nope, don't say you have.

Umm, yes I have. From 1991 to 1995 I was a syndicated car reviewer for 28 newspapers and drove pretty much everything from Yugos to Ferraris. I'm not sure of the breadth and scope of your automotive experience but after driving and writing about 200+ cars I'm pretty comfortable in my opinion. Geo Metros were just slightly above the Yugo...

Originally Posted by GeoRandy

About my other paragraph that you attacked. You obviously missed my point. My point is/was this: We the people need to elect (and hire) representatives in government who are planners, architects, physisists, doctors etc. and not career polititians who are interested in lining their own pockets and uninterested in "we the people" and hold them accountable. Why don't we?

Because people in those fields would never want to be in politics. You're correct, I misunderstood your assertion, but I think you have a utopian view of politics in general and one not routed in historical context or reality.

Originally Posted by GeoRandy

From listening to you, why should we have government at all? The only positive you mentioned was the military, who has raped the American public in cost overruns for decades, not to mention government allowed tax loopholes for them.

As a former US Marine I will point out that the defense budget has never exceeded 5% of our GDP, a modest percentage for the primary protection our government was designed to provide. The only "raping" you have endured is in your education, or lack of it...

Originally Posted by GeoRandy

I, personally, am not for government largeness, I am for government efficiency with a long range plan that we can all back and be proud of, for future generations.

Again, utopian thinking/wishing... Name one, just ONE government in the history of mankind that has any of the hallmarks of what you have described? Our constitution provides protection of our lives, liberty, and property. Anything beyond that is an infringement on our right to freedom, bestowed on us by God, not government...

[GeoRandy]

From Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Definition of IGNORANT

1
a : destitute of knowledge or education <an ignorant society>; also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified <parents ignorant of modern mathematics> b : resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence <ignorant errors>

2
: unaware, uninformed

— ig·no·rant·ly adverb
— ig·no·rant·ness noun iria

There are none so blind as those who have eyes yet still do not see.

I encourage you to start a new thread and yet you choose not to. Hmmm...

Bring back the Geo is my vote.

[grider]

Originally Posted by GeoRandy

From Merriam-Webster Dictionary
Definition of IGNORANT

1
a : destitute of knowledge or education <an ignorant society>; also : lacking knowledge or comprehension of the thing specified <parents ignorant of modern mathematics> b : resulting from or showing lack of knowledge or intelligence <ignorant errors>

2
: unaware, uninformed

— ig·no·rant·ly adverb
— ig·no·rant·ness noun iria

There are none so blind as those who have eyes yet still do not see.

I encourage you to start a new thread and yet you choose not to. Hmmm...

Bring back the Geo is my vote.

i did in off topic titled freedom i am glad you can use a dictionary try using you ability to learn and study a little hstory the armed forces are the thing that alows us to have this discusion and you are right about the geo but wrong on just about every thig else good luck to i will not reply in this thread any more see freedom in off topic and again the metro is a good car