B20 vs B18c5

[sparq]

You know what you need? A turbo kit... how about 315 WHP @ 10 psi? I know you wanna !!!!!!!!

[edman24]

well i must say i am a fan of frankenstein motors. i have one i tell you what i wish i had done the b20 instead of the lsvtec but im still enjoying myself and the ls block was almost free so im not complaining. with my setup the way it is (which is not to its full potential at all) i have destroyed type r's, gsr swapped eg's, and rsx type s's. no im not into street racing this was all done in a closed area i choose not to disclose at this moment but anyways. i have a high compression lsvtec right now and if i swapped my pistons and rods, went turbo, id be dominating and pullin 10 second et's (maybe )

so im trying to say that there is nothing wrong with franky motors as long as they are done right. it all depends on your budget. i think the ultimate setup would be a b20vtec turbo. you could easily push over 400hp in one of those.

b18c5 is more of a novelty item. its a great motor but in all honesty it should be left in stock form. type r should stay type r.

[d3f4ult]

Well said Edman. Prelewd, you still wub me! lol. Had a rough day, I shouldn't take it out on the forums. anyway, b20 vtec or non vtec it doesn't matter. the non vtec with 13 psi will pump about 325-350 whp. im sure the Vtec would be a nice addition, but boost is boost. Vtec is Vtec. I want to build an all motor vtec monster, AND an all boostij monster. All motor, I'd probably use a b18c1. billet rods, stud girdle, hellafied pistons, p&p cams, intake, header, chip. would pump hella HP for an all motor car.

But I digress. When i am done with the car all together I'll post pics. And not a second sooner

[DblOvrhedCamron]

Originally posted by d3f4ult
nice. the b20 is pumping 12-14 psi to attain that. What kinda boost is the c5 pulling? would be a damn good race

I believe its 14 psi don't quote me on that. I'll IM him next time he's on and make him aware of the post.

[slicvic]

so wut do u actually need for a frankenstein motor besides the b16 head and b20 block......i guess u can use the gsr tranny but what about the harness, computer, motor mounts, lines, etc etc.....

[d3f4ult]

I am not going the vtec route.. b20b non vtec will hella boost.

[Gogeta195]

You guys have danced around the issue so much.

Alright, B20 is great for a turbo, low compression setup, cheap, and large horsepower gains, but so what if you have a B20 block? What the hell kind of head are you going to slap on that thing? Would it be the flawless B16A? B18C1? Or the port and polished B18C5? All this talk of turbo's, but what kind would you get? Have any of you read what CRVTEC had to say about such a difficult swap? Swaps aren't easy, but what is very hard is rerouting the oil lines and rewiring the harness and ECU to have VTEC (On my non-VTEC car). So what I'm trying to say is that all you guys have done is danced around the fact that the B20 is a good block to work with. "Where's the beef?"

[d3f4ult]

Amen brother, preach on!

[Options]

Alright, B20 is great for a turbo, low compression setup, cheap, and large horsepower gains, but so what if you have a B20 block? What the hell kind of head are you going to slap on that thing? Would it be the flawless B16A? B18C1? Or the port and polished B18C5? All this talk of turbo's, but what kind would you get? Have any of you read what CRVTEC had to say about such a difficult swap? Swaps aren't easy, but what is very hard is rerouting the oil lines and rewiring the harness and ECU to have VTEC (On my non-VTEC car). So what I'm trying to say is that all you guys have done is danced around the fact that the B20 is a good block to work with. "Where's the beef?"

As far as heads go for the CRVtech, i would put on a B16a2 head ported an polished it will be cheaper then going out and buying a b18c5 head and it will be just as good if not better. And as far as turbo goes i would put on a 14b turbo from the first gen eclipse or if you wanna be fancy get the gen 3 drag turbo kit, and use it with a spearco intercooler. I would also use a gsr transmission with a mugen ECU. The hardest part of the swap is tapping the oil lines properly, and rooting them around the turbo and such properly. And as far as the wiring harness goes i believe you would have to make a completely custom wiring harness, because i have never seen a company make em. You would also want a lightend flywheel and a exedy stage 2 clutch setup. And for the intake manifold i would you the b16a2 intake manni. With a turbo motor you probably gonna want some forged pistons, and i would go with a zex or the CTR camshafts. Your probably gonna want to upgrade the valvetrain to with some titanium valve springs and retainers, and some new push rods while your at it. Your gonna want adjustable cam gears to i would go with AEM they are decent and reliable. Your also gonna want a V-AFC and a new fuel rail with i would go some 750cc injectors from venom, you might want a venom fuel moduel as well.

All in all this whole setup would be extremely difficult like Gogeta195 said.

Now this is my idea of how you could do it, but i could be wrong so someone correct me if i am, i may be missing some things.

[rygan21]

all this talk about b18's does anyone know where to get a decent priced b series engine?

[d3f4ult]

www.hmotorsonline.com

[zippeay]

Anyone know of anywhere to get a B20z on the East coast?

[d3f4ult]

blah!

[rygan21]

wow thanks for the website, i wonder if anyone would want to do a group buy for b18c1? maybe get them down to $2200 ..hahaha jst dreaming

[YOUNGSTER]

why would you want a b series engine if you have an rsx?