WIP: 2CV “Rock and Roll-Bar”

Yes, more progress please! I'm anxious to see the final result...!

Will we see the 850i as your next model? If so, that'll be great! Be wary though, it will require lots of work to fit properly.

(just picked up a Revell 850i Premium kit yesterday)

Fiend. I so need one of those.

But, yeah, more updates! (You do it to me, so turnabout is only fair. :rolleyes:)

..But, yeah, more updates! (You do it to me, so turnabout is only fair. :rolleyes:)

Hmm... I never had you figured for a "pay back" kind of guy :grinno: :evillol:

You got PM

Bad news I'm afraid. I was going to post here that I'll get to work this weekend but I (literally) just got a phone call that my 9 year old daughter just broke her leg skiing in Italy :(:(

I'm afraid apart from being pretty shaken up right now, I think I'm looking at a trip instead of modelling. I'll know more later.

That's horrible news! I hope she's all right.

Good luck to both of you!

Thanks - appreciate that.

I just got off the phone with her. She's actually taking it better than me! I'm all screwed up inside while she thinks a plaster cast is even cooler than skiing :) Kids!! Who needs 'em? ;) Actually, she was more worried that her ski boot got left on the slope LOL

Give my best to your daugther and tell her that there is people that doesn't do anything but ski boots all day long and she's unique.

Niclas

s-ski, got worried scrolling down this page... i'm glad your daughter sounds fine & relates to the situation in a positive way... told you warm&sunny Eilat is the place to go ;) j/k mate ,all the best!

Niclas, Roy - Thanks for the kind words! :bigthumb:

I told Alex that she has some "Get Well Soon" e.wishes and it she can't wait to see them! She even wants to post her model :)

looks very nice!



btw i'm writing this mesage onmy psp :naughty:

She even wants to post her model :)

We'll look forward to seeing it. See, there is a silver lining! While she's hobbling around the house for the next month or two, it'll be easier to get her to sit still, so you can teach her to build!

May her healing be quick and easy.

Sorry to hear your daughter has broke her leg... I'm sure she'll be fine, certainly sounds like it..

Cool that she is building models.. Keep it in the Family as they say. Looking forward to seeing more progress..

Ouch, breaking a leg can hurt, I've expirienced it myself... I hope your daughter is fine!

I'm 100% sure your daughter will get 100% okay again ! Also, the place where she broke her leg will be stronger than before, so THAT particulair part will never break again :wink:

I dumped more info and pictures (finally) in your PM box !

Thanks guys from Alex and myself for the kind words. She's back home and we are gradually getting used to having a full length plaster cast in the family :)

2CV, thanks for the info! Awesome stuff, just hope I'll be able to do it justice. If I never finish this build, it'll be your fault ;)

Cheers again guys! :bigthumb:

GASP:headshake I heard about your doughter just now, may be I could be hepful from here if I had a look before:mad:. I also have 3 child and I know well how you sould feel when things come bad. So almost ok at the end. Sorry for delay Stevensky

UPDATE:

Hard to believe, but I’ve managed to get something done this weekend :lol:

Once again I’d like o thank you all for your kind words for Alex. She’s doing well, started going back to school and has basically forgotten the fact that her left leg is in plaster :p . We hope that the cast will be removed for Christmas.

Back to Jean-Paul.

I have cunningly managed to keep on finding ways to postpone totally ruining this build with my bad painting skills and have found some more things to try and re-create.

On a side note, I have to say that I’m really enjoying doing this even though I am very objective about the end results of my first foray into scratch building. However, my respect just keeps growing for the master builders on this forum who do just amazing things with their scratch building. How the HECK do you guys make such small things so cleanly and with such detail!?!?!??! :


First up the dashboard. About 6 months ago I cut up the door panels to rescue the part that is used as the support for the dashboard and under tray.

When I started actually test fitting them it turned out that the under dash tray is too short and needs to be extended in order to get a nice close fit between the body and the door panels. (Maybe this modification needs to be made also when building a standard version? Or maybe with the doors still in place the gap doesn’t show)

I sanded of the placement tags on the original part and glued some thin styrene strips to the end of the tray.


http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7227/dashtray011jq.jpg


This fixed the problem perfectly and now when the body is put into place there is no glaring gap.


http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2973/dashtray023ek.jpg




Next the lights.

AF member 2CV who has been really helpful with resource info and answering my dumb questions :rolleyes: mentioned that the lights are “wrong”. I’m not sure what he meant but I decided that the light support bar/thing is a very characteristic element of the 2CV engine bay and is very visible when the hood is off.

The kit part looks like this:

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8484/lights018wf.jpg

The “blob” in the middle is a distributor/coil that has leads the go off to the spark plugs. It looks like this in the original:

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7563/engine034zj.jpg


I started off by trying to make the part out of various pieces of different styrene rods cut, shaped and glued together. This is what I came up with:


http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9762/lights021zy.jpg



Then I drilled out placement holes for some hand shaped brass rod which will hold the headlights. Just to show off a bit :evillol: I added a trial HT cable to see how it looks. I have also made some wire fixing hoops that you can see in the original but these will be added after painting.


http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/8437/lights032tk.jpg


I haven’t figured out yet how I’m going to fix the headlights to this though LOL!!!




Gear stick.

It had always been my plan to replace the kit gear knob with a scratchbuilt one made out of a round headed pin. But in the true tradition of over-confidence and "pride before the fall", I decided that I wanted to try and make a “working” gear change mechanism.

This is the kit part:

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9100/gearlever013mc.jpg



I broke this down into 2/3 stages.
1. The gear lever
2. The bulk head tunnel bit
3. The engine bay parts

First I started with the bulkhead fixing. I traced through the hole in the bulkhead onto piece of thick styrene sheet which was then cut out and sanded into shape to make a “plug”. I then glued the plug onto a sheet of thinner styrene and traced around it with a thick pointed marker to get a lip. This was then also cut and sanded to shape. Finally I drilled out some styrene rod and glued it to the “plug”. This is what I got:


http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/269/gearlever028im.jpg




This passes through the bulkhead and under the dash like this

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/7190/gearlever039pw.jpg




Next job was to cut up some wire for the push rods. I also made a “working” linkage out of carved styrene rod. As you can also see, I’ve covered my bases colorwise and have gear knobs in an assortment of colours (could this be a new 2CV tuning trend? :smokin: )


http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/2446/gearlever050jq.jpg




Here it is in place:


http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/5765/gearlever069yq.jpg





Next up was some interesting “thingies” on the engine block. They also look like coils and generators to me but hey, who knows? :naughty:


http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4151/coil015ha.jpg


The kit bits were sawn off leaving a flat surface and then I uses again various sizes of styrene rod to make the parts.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/1387/coil021ka.jpg

I wasn’t too sure about the size of the bigger part so I made 2 versions just in case. When the are put together, they look like this. Once they have been painted, they will be wired up.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/672/coil036sw.jpg


There are a couple more parts that I want to add to the engine bay (working dipstick, oil filter) and then I’ll call it a day. Otherwise this car will forever remain a testing ground and never get built.

Thanks for looking and any comments/suggestions are welcome.

:bigthumb:

That looks really good there, nice scratchbuilding!

Nice job Stevenski! Beautiful work. Glad to hear Alex is doing well, and glad to see you updating!

Ah, so that's where the distributer is on the 2CV- was wondering about that.

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4151/coil015ha.jpg

The horizontal cylander in the center of the frame is the starter motor, with the solenoid molded to it. The more vertical cylander in front of it as best as I can tell is an oil reservoir- this is where the oil fill seems to be.

http://www.caballeriabinaria.org/motormi2cv.jpg

And the alternator is the bump beside it on the fan housing.

Looking forward to seeing you do the engine!

wow, Klutz. what a terrific thread! i love the subject of this project and what you are doing with it only makes it all the more interesting and better. really refreshing seeing something so original and i love how you describe your progress. ya outta be a writer when you aint building cool models. keep up the great work and keep those those pics coming. cant wait to see more of this and i can see i sure can learn alot from your scratch building skills.
cheers!
Les

Is that a horizontally opposed engine? Keep upthe awsome progress!

Terrific job!
I heard that Citroën tried out a BMW motorcycle engine when developing this car. They thought it was to strong so they made their own boxer instead.
Think of a 900-1000cc BMW engine, would have made wonders in the aspect of speed and acceleration!

Anyway, keep up the hard and good work!
Niclas

Is that a horizontally opposed engine? Keep upthe awsome progress!

Yes, as far as I know it's a 2 cylinder boxer engine.

OMG I am can’t believe what I am about to post – I am so happy!! ;)

Don’t get your hopes up too much though, this definitely falls into the category of “One HUGE step for Klutz but two steps backwards for the modelling world” :grinno:


A few months ago I picked up a Unimat1 lathe for about 50$. It’s worth noting here that I have never seen a lathe in my life before never mind used one!


http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/1894/unimat021qh.jpg


Yesterday for the first time ever :screwy: , I set it up and tried it out on some pieces of aluminium and styrene rod.

This is what I can’t believe – after 30 minutes playing with it, I have made myself 3 (well 2, really :naughty: ) very respectable attempts at the oil filter I wanted to add to the engine!!!

Here they are – what do you think?


http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/7200/oilfilter064cc.jpg


http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/9195/oilfilter014an.jpg


I think that with some practice, the Unimat can turn out to be a useful although limited tool. It definitely works fine with styrene (and, I suspect, resin). I could tell though that aluminium was approaching its limits. I wouldn’t pay full price for one of these, but a good 2nd mand one with some extra attachments is probably a useful acquisition.


Since I’m on a roll, I’m going to try and do the dipstick tonight :smokin:

blubaja Yes, this is 2 cylined flat engine. IIRC, the name "2CV" orginated from the orginal power of the engine - 2HP (cheveaux or CV in French).


Thanks for the kind comments gentlemen and please stay tuned!

Klutz,

Cool to see you working on this. If I remember what I watched once on Discovery the 2CV was a joint venture between the declining Citroën and their new owners Michelin. I think the idea was to create an affordable 2 cylinder car that you could rag all day long and not worry about fuel economy or bumps in the road. Amazingly I think the car was produced right into the 90’s..!! I mean we all remember the 2CV in the Bond Movie for your eye’s only.. The car was made even more famous as it went down a flight of steps without any special tricks, pull ropes or nothing really and still drove away unharmed (I read that somewhere, or was it in a movie trivia quiz – anyhow I know it was superb in that movie for stunts). For a car designed pre war, to appeal to the masses and farmers alike, you have to admit, the marmite car (you either love it or hate it) has done well..

Just like your model klutz, just amazing.. Keep this up, it’s coming along nicely.. You’ll not trash it with the paint, you do good paintwork at times..

Just want to say that I can see you have a very special attitude to all those tiny things... I really love what you are doing!!!

Aston

Well, my 2CV has be "dipsticked" - whatever that means... :loser:

http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/3732/dipstikfinito066zw.jpg

I posted a blow-by-blow account as a "How to" (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=3634120#post3634120 ) so if you are interested in how I did it, you can find it there.

I’m sure that you guys can think of many different and better ways to do this but I hope that this will maybe give the general idea.

Now, what else can I come up with to delay painting.....?

Next post in about 2 years!

2 years?? but i want to see the engine painted now :mad: nice dipstick tip, Klutz. i think i'm gonna try that out. thanks for the how to.

UPDATE 27.12.2005

Hope everyone had/is having a great Christmas!

I’ve been using the three days off work, to sneak into my modelling room at silly hours of the night and start getting Jean Paul ready for the road.

I hope you like what I have done. My Mum, who is staying with us for Christmas, thinks it’s great but she is the lady that thought my dirty diapers were works of art so she’s not really objective and I’m more interested in your opinion.


First of all, I finished off a final detail from my “working dipstick" episode - the filler cap.

The kit part is a plastic blob on top of the filler tube and since it’s so close to other parts that I have detailed quite carefully, I wanted to keep up appearances ;) (also, reference photos show this to be quite an interesting part in its own right).

I cut of the kit part and then made a disc and ring out of styrene sheet using my belt hole puncher. I glued together to get a 3-dimensional cap and then “painted” it with a sharpie pen. (in the photo it is just stuck to a piece rod for handling)

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2397/fillercap020ph.jpg


Reference photos show a closing mechanism made out of spring wire – a bit like the lids on jars that your Grandma used to make jam in! I recreated this using thin wire filaments and bending them to shape.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5673/fillercap032gc.jpg

I think the final result is quite a good representation but not very cleanly built :uhoh: – maybe I’ll do it again later.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8293/fillercap042mc.jpg


To get on the road JP needs some wheels!!

I want this whole build to look a bit “used” but not "junked" so to recreate a chipped paint effect I decided to use the salt masking technique (don’t ask me why i decided to do it that way!! :screwy: )

First I painted the primed rims with Alclad2 steel, then wet the odd place or two and sprinkled with large-grain sea salt
(my wife was finally convinced that I have fully flipped my lid when I smuggled a pot of SALT!!!! into my modelling room – I don’t thing anything will surprise her now LOL)

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3738/wheels010lk.jpg

This was then sprayed with my colour (dupicolor auto acrylic) and let dry. You can see the salt still under the paint.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6349/wheels023vb.jpg

After the paint dried I brushed off the salt and the steel paint showed through. The wheels were then detailed, filler valves added, washed and weathered. Here’s the final result:

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8668/wheels069ou.jpg

Also, I painted the resin tires I cast. I am really pleased with how they came out (unfortunately, I have no idea how I did it LOL). The resin tire is on the left and the kit tire is on the right. I painted the resin with a custom mix of X18 and XF24 (dark grey) and it’s really hard to tell them apart.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7011/tires016ij.jpg



I’ve also started on the dreaded painting :uhoh: I have begun with the chassis and will work my way up from there.

Again I used the salt masking technique for paint chips.

The whole frame was primed and then pained with Alclad2 Steel and then hit with the same mix that I used on the tyres.

I did this to a) get scale colour effect and b) to provide a better contrast to the floor pan which will be a darker black.

The frame was then dry brushed (badly) and I also scrapped away some more of the black paint to reveal the steel colour underneath.

Also I recreated rusted patches in a couple of places (before priming) using CA glue and baking powder.


http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/176/weatheredchasis030wj.jpg


The rusted areas were lightly brushed with Pactra rust color and some MIG rust pigment.
The bits that the wheels are attached to (sorry, don’t know the name) were painted in A2 steel and then liberally washed with MPWRs secret wash recipies :biggrin:

I think that the muffler (?) came out really well. Baking powder rust, A2 steel, pactra rust, oil wash and MIG pigment while it was still wet.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6125/weatheredchasis025ni.jpg

I also attached the suspension dampers I made out of aluminium, steel and brass tube ages ago.

These should really have been painted black and then weathered but I just couldn’t bring myself to cover it with paint :naughty: :smokin: (sorry 2CV for lack of accuracy ;) ). I think it looks cool and that’s what counts the most :biggrin:



http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9141/weatheredchasis041sr.jpg


http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9210/weatheredchasis053wl.jpg


http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5161/weatheredchasis069dk.jpg



I’ve also started trying to “weather up” some other bits ‘n pieces. This a side by side of weathered and un-weathered bit of French engineering :biggrin:

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1528/ducting028hg.jpg


Thanks for looking and I hope you are enjoying this.

Please share with me all the weathering experiences you can!!

Have a great time on New Year's Eve :bigthumb:

fantastic stuff, steve: awesome
but you joke us: you open an help request thread concerning wheatering since you're a master :naughty:
I hope you rush a little with your workbemch to see a lot of updates..
bye

This is absolutely amazing.You're gonna have a working engine by the time you done with this :grinyes: Great job man! :evillol:

unlike the diapers, this is really a work of art. the weathering and chipping paint is fantastic. everything is coming together so beautifully. maybe i missed something earlier but how come you had to cast your own wheels? this is something i would love to try soon but i dont know too much about it. anywho, keep up the great work. this will be a real masterpiece when its done. so when will you explain to us about making our own photo-etched pieces?? :grinno:

Looking great, as always. The chassis is spectacular. And the filler cap is a terrific detail also- being right in front at the top of the engine, it'll really stand out. Nicely done with the hole puncher, but why not with the lathe? And I've never heard of masking with salt, but it looks the part.

Try putting a wash on the wheels- it'll help the lug nuts and valve stems stand out, and may emphasise the paint chips too.

After it's all done, I'd consider giving it a dusting with dirt coloured powdered pastel chalk- say the wheels, suspension, underside, and maybe the interior floorboards, too.

Wow, Stevenski! This is quite a build you have going. I'm particularly impressed that you can manage to find a way to be self-deprecating while showing us these phenomenal steps, most of which you've come up with on your own. It shows true talent for both modeling and self-deprecation. :evillol:

I think all the scratch built engine detail is really cool. When I finally get around to building my 2CV you won't mind if I copy some of them will you?

You never did tell us, did Alex manage to get her cast off by Christmas?

Amazingly, stunningly and utterly insane!!!

I m as always, bowing in silence.


Oli

Thanks for the great comments!
Coming from you guys, that’s really encouraging



arknok784 You're gonna have a working engine by the time you done with this
Thanks! I’m currently working on a formula for 1/24 scale unleaded fuel ;)



quadzero..but how come you had to cast your own wheels? this is something i would love to try soon but i dont know too much about it. …. so when will you explain to us about making our own photo-etched pieces??
I had to cast a 5th wheel to hang on the rollbar frame (it’s somewhere earlier in the thread if you can find it). As for casting, go for it! It’s much easier than I ever hoped although I’m sure I just got lucky that it went so well first time round.

Hmm..P/E parts…:biggrin:
I was honestly looking at and drooling over an etching set in a catalogue yesterday LOL!! Seriously though, I won’t be going down that road anytime soon! I’ve got a sneaking suspicion, however, that DIY decals are just around the corner :lol:



gridgirl.. I'm particularly impressed that you can manage to find a way to be self-deprecating….you won't mind if I copy some of them will you?... did Alex manage to get her cast off by Christmas?
I’m also currently working on a self-deprecation “How To” :biggrin: :evillol:
I think my self-flogging is fully justified, though ;) - see my reply below to MPWR…:uhoh:

Let’s trade! - you can have my 2CV ideas if I can copy your Fiat 500 work ;)

Alex got the cast of for Christmas and is now just in a leg brace – thanks for asking. She is attending physiotherapy 4 times a week though :uhoh:
BTW Guess what she got for Christmas? A Tamiya Beetle just like yours! :) She wants to modify it into a Herbie though!!!! :banghead: Lord! Help me! LOL




MPWR why not with the lathe?
:banghead: :rofl: Good question!!!! Never thought of that :uhoh:

MPWR.. I've never heard of masking with salt, but it looks the part.
I found the idea on an armor and aviation forum in their “How To” section while I was researching weathering techniques. I think it’s a cool method and gives nice results but I wasted a TON (or should that be gallon?) of Alclad2 by spraying the whole piece. In future, I would first plan better where I want the chipping effects to be and just spray those selected areas (or use a cheaper metaliser)

MPWR Try putting a wash on the wheels- it'll help the lug nuts and valve stems stand out, and may emphasise the paint chips too.
whimper, whimper :redface: … I did…whimper…I’ll do it again, Obi ;)

MPWRAfter it's all done, I'd consider giving it a dusting with dirt coloured powdered pastel chalk- say the wheels, suspension, underside, and maybe the interior floorboards, too.
That’s the plan :biggrin: say hello to the Stevenski Weathering Kit….

http://img505.imageshack.us/img505/6731/pigments011af.jpg

Thanks for the good idea of doing the floor inside too - I wouldn’t have thought of that! :bigthumb: :thinkerg:

Sorry for all the smileys in here :lol2: just enjoying myself today ;)

(...)

Next the lights.

AF member 2CV who has been really helpful with resource info and answering my dumb questions :rolleyes: (...)
There are no dumb questions, Only dumb answers ;)
...mentioned that the lights are “wrong”.
If you would use the original light support + headlights, you would have to cut along the black lines and glue the lights back on the frame like this:

http://lelijkeeend.multiply.com/photos/photo/14/7.jpg
I’m not sure what he meant but I decided that the light support bar/thing is a very characteristic element of the 2CV engine bay and is very visible when the hood is off.

The kit part looks like this:

http://img204.imageshack.us/img204/8484/lights018wf.jpg

The “blob” in the middle is a distributor/coil that has leads the go off to the spark plugs. It looks like this in the original:

http://img229.imageshack.us/img229/7563/engine034zj.jpg


I started off by trying to make the part out of various pieces of different styrene rods cut, shaped and glued together. This is what I came up with:


http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/9762/lights021zy.jpg

The coil sits on top of the support bar. If you would do it 100% perfect, you should cut off the bottom part along the black line:

http://lelijkeeend.multiply.com/photos/photo/14/9.jpg

I want to compliment you on your detail ! It is all really awesome ! I don't think I am able to get even close to your skills ! Even if I would build a kit according to the manual without replacing the parts from the box with scratchbuilt parts, it would still be an ugly blob of plastic !

Nice job Stevenski! Beautiful work. Glad to hear Alex is doing well, and glad to see you updating!

Ah, so that's where the distributer is on the 2CV- was wondering about that.
There is no distributor on a 2cv. Both sparkplugs fire at the same time. Even when it isn't needed ! If there is no distributor, the distributor can't malfunction or give problems :biggrin:

http://img208.imageshack.us/img208/4151/coil015ha.jpg

The horizontal cylander in the center of the frame is the starter motor, with the solenoid molded to it. The more vertical cylander in front of it as best as I can tell is an oil reservoir- this is where the oil fill seems to be.
It is the oil filler tube. It is not used to store oil. It's just a bit big because there is a special valve in it. This way, air (not oil) gets pressed out when both cylinders are moving towards eachother. When the cylinders are moving away from eachother, the valve closes so air doesn't get in. Due to this, there is a vacuum between the cylinders and it's impossible for oil to leak out trough bearings etc.

Is that a horizontally opposed engine? Keep upthe awsome progress!
A 2 cylinder boxer engine. 602 cc's (36.73629 cubic inches), 29 horsepowers at 5600RPM. 5600RPM is also the maximum RPM's this engine can take according to Citroën, but I've been driving 70km/h (43.49598mph) in second gear. That means the engine made 7000RPM. Somehow, the engine survived without damage (knock on wood).

Terrific job!
I heard that Citroën tried out a BMW motorcycle engine when developing this car. They thought it was to strong so they made their own boxer instead.
Think of a 900-1000cc BMW engine, would have made wonders in the aspect of speed and acceleration!

Anyway, keep up the hard and good work!
Niclas
I think if you do that, the wheels will not rotate. Instead, the engine will rotate backwards, pulling the chassis forward and wrapping it around the engine block !

Yet, on the other hand, people have placed a 4 cylinder boxer engine in a 2cv-like car. But I presume they reinforced the chassis a bit ...

OMG I am can’t believe what I am about to post – I am so happy!! ;)

Don’t get your hopes up too much though, this definitely falls into the category of “One HUGE step for Klutz but two steps backwards for the modelling world” :grinno:


A few months ago I picked up a Unimat1 lathe for about 50$. It’s worth noting here that I have never seen a lathe in my life before never mind used one!


http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/1894/unimat021qh.jpg


Yesterday for the first time ever :screwy: , I set it up and tried it out on some pieces of aluminium and styrene rod.

This is what I can’t believe – after 30 minutes playing with it, I have made myself 3 (well 2, really :naughty: ) very respectable attempts at the oil filter I wanted to add to the engine!!!

Here they are – what do you think?


http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/7200/oilfilter064cc.jpg


http://img236.imageshack.us/img236/9195/oilfilter014an.jpg


I think that with some practice, the Unimat can turn out to be a useful although limited tool. It definitely works fine with styrene (and, I suspect, resin). I could tell though that aluminium was approaching its limits. I wouldn’t pay full price for one of these, but a good 2nd mand one with some extra attachments is probably a useful acquisition.
May I borrow it ? :biggrin:

Since I’m on a roll, I’m going to try and do the dipstick tonight :smokin:

blubaja Yes, this is 2 cylined flat engine. IIRC, the name "2CV" orginated from the orginal power of the engine - 2HP (cheveaux or CV in French).
In France, you have to pay the taxes for your car according to its power. Yet, that's a great reason to build an expansive, deluxe car with very little power. So they make some kind of calculating model wich includes not only power, but also the weight of the car. And according to that calculation model the first 2cv's had just 2 horsepowers instead of 9. Later on, the calculated numer of horsepowers went up due to a more powerful engine and a slightly heavier car. Because of that, my 2cv with 29 horsepowers has officialy 3 horsepowers according to french laws.

Klutz,

Cool to see you working on this. If I remember what I watched once on Discovery the 2CV was a joint venture between the declining Citroën and their new owners Michelin. I think the idea was to create an affordable 2 cylinder car that you could rag all day long and not worry about fuel economy or bumps in the road. Amazingly I think the car was produced right into the 90’s..!!
The end of 1991. I do not know the exact date.

CORRECTION: The last 2cv was built on july 27th 1990 at 16:00hours. Stupid me !

I mean we all remember the 2CV in the Bond Movie for your eye’s only..
They used more than one. If you watch the movie closely, you'll see that a crushed headlight in the one schene, is like new in the other. Also, they took out the original engine and squeezed in a 1220cc (not 100% sure) 4 cylinder boxer engine of a GSA (I'm sure of that though!) They had to cut out a part of the inside of the front mudguards to make the engine fit.
The car was made even more famous as it went down a flight of steps without any special tricks, pull ropes or nothing really and still drove away unharmed (I read that somewhere, or was it in a movie trivia quiz – anyhow I know it was superb in that movie for stunts).
The only reason I never did that was because my g/f started to yell when I suggested it.
For a car designed pre war, to appeal to the masses and farmers alike, you have to admit, the marmite car (you either love it or hate it) has done well..
It still does well ! Unfortunattely, some morons at Citroën decided to stop the production of this car, wich is offcourse the best car in th whole wide world ! :biggrin:

Well, my 2CV has be "dipsticked" - whatever that means... :loser:

http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/3732/dipstikfinito066zw.jpg

I posted a blow-by-blow account as a "How to" (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=3634120#post3634120) so if you are interested in how I did it, you can find it there.

I’m sure that you guys can think of many different and better ways to do this but I hope that this will maybe give the general idea.

Now, what else can I come up with to delay painting.....?

Next post in about 2 years!
I'm almost amazed the engine doesn't really run on petrol ! :lol:

UPDATE 27.12.2005

Hope everyone had/is having a great Christmas!

I’ve been using the three days off work, to sneak into my modelling room at silly hours of the night and start getting Jean Paul ready for the road.

I hope you like what I have done. My Mum, who is staying with us for Christmas, thinks it’s great but she is the lady that thought my dirty diapers were works of art so she’s not really objective and I’m more interested in your opinion.


First of all, I finished off a final detail from my “working dipstick" episode - the filler cap.

The kit part is a plastic blob on top of the filler tube and since it’s so close to other parts that I have detailed quite carefully, I wanted to keep up appearances ;) (also, reference photos show this to be quite an interesting part in its own right).

I cut of the kit part and then made a disc and ring out of styrene sheet using my belt hole puncher. I glued together to get a 3-dimensional cap and then “painted” it with a sharpie pen. (in the photo it is just stuck to a piece rod for handling)

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/2397/fillercap020ph.jpg


Reference photos show a closing mechanism made out of spring wire – a bit like the lids on jars that your Grandma used to make jam in! I recreated this using thin wire filaments and bending them to shape.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5673/fillercap032gc.jpg

I think the final result is quite a good representation but not very cleanly built :uhoh: – maybe I’ll do it again later.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8293/fillercap042mc.jpg


To get on the road JP needs some wheels!!

I want this whole build to look a bit “used” but not "junked" so to recreate a chipped paint effect I decided to use the salt masking technique (don’t ask me why i decided to do it that way!! :screwy: )

First I painted the primed rims with Alclad2 steel, then wet the odd place or two and sprinkled with large-grain sea salt
(my wife was finally convinced that I have fully flipped my lid when I smuggled a pot of SALT!!!! into my modelling room – I don’t thing anything will surprise her now LOL)

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/3738/wheels010lk.jpg

This was then sprayed with my colour (dupicolor auto acrylic) and let dry. You can see the salt still under the paint.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6349/wheels023vb.jpg

After the paint dried I brushed off the salt and the steel paint showed through. The wheels were then detailed, filler valves added, washed and weathered. Here’s the final result:

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/8668/wheels069ou.jpg

Also, I painted the resin tires I cast. I am really pleased with how they came out (unfortunately, I have no idea how I did it LOL). The resin tire is on the left and the kit tire is on the right. I painted the resin with a custom mix of X18 and XF24 (dark grey) and it’s really hard to tell them apart.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/7011/tires016ij.jpg



I’ve also started on the dreaded painting :uhoh: I have begun with the chassis and will work my way up from there.

Again I used the salt masking technique for paint chips.

The whole frame was primed and then pained with Alclad2 Steel and then hit with the same mix that I used on the tyres.

I did this to a) get scale colour effect and b) to provide a better contrast to the floor pan which will be a darker black.

The frame was then dry brushed (badly) and I also scrapped away some more of the black paint to reveal the steel colour underneath.

Also I recreated rusted patches in a couple of places (before priming) using CA glue and baking powder.


http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/176/weatheredchasis030wj.jpg


The rusted areas were lightly brushed with Pactra rust color and some MIG rust pigment.
The bits that the wheels are attached to (sorry, don’t know the name) were painted in A2 steel and then liberally washed with MPWRs secret wash recipies :biggrin:

I think that the muffler (?) came out really well. Baking powder rust, A2 steel, pactra rust, oil wash and MIG pigment while it was still wet.

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/6125/weatheredchasis025ni.jpg

I also attached the suspension dampers I made out of aluminium, steel and brass tube ages ago.

These should really have been painted black and then weathered but I just couldn’t bring myself to cover it with paint :naughty: :smokin: (sorry 2CV for lack of accuracy ;) ). I think it looks cool and that’s what counts the most :biggrin:



http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9141/weatheredchasis041sr.jpg


http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/9210/weatheredchasis053wl.jpg


http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/5161/weatheredchasis069dk.jpg



I’ve also started trying to “weather up” some other bits ‘n pieces. This a side by side of weathered and un-weathered bit of French engineering :biggrin:

http://img411.imageshack.us/img411/1528/ducting028hg.jpg


Thanks for looking and I hope you are enjoying this.

Please share with me all the weathering experiences you can!!

Have a great time on New Year's Eve :bigthumb:
Can you build a set of suspension dampers in scale 1:1 for me ?

And for detail: you should make the chassis rusty on the inside. :wink:

But seriously: every part of the 2cv that isn't made out of aluminium or is not painted, rusts. Achtually ... Even painted parts rust under the paint ! Believe me, you can hear a 2cv rusting away !

Well, my 2CV has be "dipsticked" - whatever that means... :loser:

http://img277.imageshack.us/img277/3732/dipstikfinito066zw.jpg

I posted a blow-by-blow account as a "How to" (http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?p=3634120#post3634120) so if you are interested in how I did it, you can find it there.

I’m sure that you guys can think of many different and better ways to do this but I hope that this will maybe give the general idea.

Now, what else can I come up with to delay painting.....?

Next post in about 2 years!
I don't want to spoil the fun, but the dipstick of a 2cv is made out a flat piece of stel, not round ... But the tube where you stick the dipstick in is round ! :biggrin: (...) Sorry for all the smileys in here :lol2: just enjoying myself today ;)
You're not the only one who is enjoying ;) It's really magnificent to see all those fiddely little details and how they are built etc !

EDIT: The last 2cv was built on july 27th 1990 at 16:00hours. Stupid me !

heey nice project going on here. you got skills:D

Believe me, you can hear a 2cv rusting away !

...only thing i have to say to this;
duh, its a citroen!

Great work on it..... now, you ave a little thingi there with Europe Dust..... Is it different than American Dust? :icon16:

UPDATE (or should I say DOWNDATE?)

Before I get to the cluster-merde, I’ll pass on the totally unimpressive good news…

More underside weathering.

Before salting and painting the underside of the floor pan with the body colour, I tested first to see how salt reacts with lacquer paints instead of acrylics. Good job I did too, because it turns the salt into rock and you can’t chip it back off leaving the underlying metal color exposed!

At first I was disappointed but then I thought “Hello! Let’s try to use that effect to make some caked-on mud”. That’s why you can see so much salt in the wheel arches.
The part is currently undergoing final stages of weathering and we’ll see how it comes out.

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/7165/floorpasalted011sm.jpg


I have also painted the brass PE diamond plate that I am using for the interior flooring.

It was primed with Mr Metal Primer through AB and painted with Model Master Aluminium Metalizer (this colour doesn’t seem to need a sealer?)

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/1007/metalfloorback010pz.jpg

http://img219.imageshack.us/img219/4596/metalfloorfront018nc.jpg


Also got the front bench seat primed (Mr Metal Primer) and painted. Next step is upholstery.

http://img233.imageshack.us/img233/2827/seatpainted018mk.jpg


Now for the cluster-merde with a double side order of FUBAR.

For any of you saw/recall my Boxster SE build, this is for you ;). I checked on French wikipedia and this is what it gave me for Moby Dick: “Moby Dick est le nom d'une baleine blanche”. Why don’t they mention anything about 2CVs?!?!? And black paint!?!?


The hood of the 2 CV looks like this:

http://img291.imageshack.us/img291/5636/hood019pr.jpg

You see that big, gaping empty space in the middle at the front?

That’s where the kit grill is supposed to be fitted - assuming you haven’t lost the part, of course. I have. It’s gone. Forever.

A styrene bolt has come down from above and zapped it, I guess (or the cleaning lady had it). Believe me, I spent 2 days looking EVERYWHERE. It’s officially lost until it turns up in 2 years time when I don’t need it anymore (while looking for this part, I found a part of my Morris Cooper that I lost a year ago and had to get a replacement from Tamiya :rofl: )

The only realistic solution I could come up with was to try and recreate it out of sheet styrene and bits. This is what I came up with.

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/9228/newgrill010mf.jpg

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/9611/newgrill023js.jpg


It’s not beautiful but I think it will pass muster when it is painted and glued into place.

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/359/newgrill035oi.jpg

Now for the really BIG ONE

Primed with the same Motip primer I used for just about everything else…3 light most coats form the can of Motip gloss black auto acrylic lacquer,…wet sanded back a little with 2000 and then 2500 grit…first wet coat…2nd wet coat and…..

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/3228/bumpaint021bs.jpg

http://img224.imageshack.us/img224/2258/bumpaint019rf.jpg

CRAP!!!! I don’t know what happened!?!?!? I’m jinxed– I am NEVER painting another model black!

Hey Stevenski-

The scratchbuilt grille looks good- paint it up and I'd say it will definately do the trick. Could always beat it up just a little to weather it. Another nice little scratch project you've done for this build.

As for the paint, it's without question a bummer. I'm not sure how I would advise you, but I'm pretty sure more paint won't fix it. Add more primer over it, or strip and re-prime/re-paint?

But then again, a thought occurs. I'm really not the type to look for blessings in disguise and the like, but- for a model your weathering fairly heavily, just how out of place would aged, cracked paint on the fenders look? I'm not sure the two pics above are enough to evaluate it, but it looks like it could be a good effect. Dust it lightly with pastel chalk dust, and call it intentional?

I don't know what to tell you about the paint. I've been told that it's difficult to do anything to a model that will actually ruin it, but I don't find it all that difficult to do things to my models that really frustrate me.

The scratchbuilt grill looks good. I think you're back to the unwarranted self-deprecation again. I'm still waiting for the self-deprecation tutorial. It has to come from you, I don't know anybody else who has achieved your level of mastery :worshippy

I'm glad that Alex had her cast off for the holidays, I hope her physiotherapy is going well, and not driving you too crazy. You'll have to tell us how her Herbie build is going!

the grill is excellent and looks natural sitting there in the hood. its too bad about the paint. i was thinking the exact same thing as MPWR even before i read his post but its hard to see exactly what happened to the black. is it crazed or cracked? not really sure. but you might be able to make lemonade out of that lemon paint thru heavy weathering as he said. wish i could offer more help here but im not familiar with this problem and what exactly happened with the paint.

The floor is fantastic the grill better more, but
Crap! I tought the same as MPWR when I saw, with a little weathering...

But I'm pretty sure that you'll strip and repaint: stay up, your work is awesome, everyone here said that a lot of times, you made just some impossible stuff and you pull over your wizard's cylinder some new original tech and item like the fabulous seat and the pull sunspensions: this's just a little hurdle on your way!

This unexpected problem remember me the Veyron's signature "There's a lesson in every kit" I was quetly impressed by that phrase when come in the community: make treasure of that hard lesson. :) I know I'll see soon that duecavalli with a wonderful shine, after that you could weatherer and soil with mud that beauty:)

Keep up the great work Steve

Thank you Lady and Gents for the support :bigthumb:
Seriously, it's nice to know that there's someone out there rooting for you when it hits the fan !!

Thanks also for the kind words about front grill.
Now that I've cooled down a bit, I quite like it too :)
I was just so pissed at the time, that I think that it was pure cussedness that made it work at all. My only problem with it is that the surround is very "flat". My memory of the kit part is that it was more "3 dimensional". Nice thought MPWR on banging it up a bit - I'll do that (carefully!).

With regards the paint, I was also thinking that maybe I could leverage the wrinkles into some kind of weathering effect but in the end I decided not to because:
a) The crazing is even worse than it looks in the pictures and
b) I kind of have a kind of "vision" in my head about this car. This is someone's beloved, handmade Jean-Paul that they have renovated and rebuilt with their own hands fairly recently (they are still washing it every other day LOL). There's no way he'd accept that bad a paint job yet ;)

I decided to try and save it, working on the principle that if I succeed - super, if not - I can strip it and start again but at least I'll learn something.
Since 2 patients decided to wake me up last night and I couldn't get back to sleep :shakehead , I sneaked down to my workshop at 4.30 this morning and had a go.

Methinks things are looking optimistic at this point!!

I did a test on just one wing (fender?).
First I fairly gently wet sanded it with 1200 grit.
http://img226.imageshack.us/img226/2883/save035il.jpg

Then I started smoothing out with 2000 and 2500 grits. I followed this up with macguire's scratch-X (first time using it and think it's tons better than taiya corse compaound) and then macguires cleaning wax.
Here you can see the treated and untreated parts:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/8852/save014ty.jpg

And here's a close up of the treated part:
http://img223.imageshack.us/img223/5941/save024wd.jpg

There are still some very fine marks in there but I think that actually this is a finish close to what I would call realistic and "on vision" :iceslolan
It's very difficult sanding carefully in some of the creases and I barely rubbed through to primer on a couple of edges but if this is the worst I do, I'll will turn that into weathering.

In out of town now for a couple of days and will try the rest of the body when I get back.

Thanks again for your support!

Gridgirl,
Thanks. Alex is doing so well with physio, that when she lost one of her crutches on Wednesday last week at school, we didn't even realise that we were "one leg short" until Friday :screwy: :iceslolan

Les,
Citroen sounds a lot like citron which is French for lemon so, does this mean I just made some Citroenade? ;)

Gio,
I think that "duecavalli" sounds soooo much cooler than 2CV :lol2:
Makes me feel tha need to put V12 stallion power under the hood next time!!

Damn you discovered the way to have a "30 years old body shell with original paint in great condition for sale call..." the problem now is replicate the performance: that fuc***g paint next time could come up perfect :grinyes:

I am amazed ! Your skills are beyond words ! Keep up te good work and don't forget the towbar ;)

By the way, perhaps you want to make a miniature replica of my 2cv when it's finally finished (expected somewhere in 2027) ? I can give you the correct standardised numbers of the colours and all the other info you'll need !

UPDATE 17.01.2006

I managed to squeeze a little plastic time this weekend so here’s a bit of an update. This is starting to come together and I’m getting nervous that I don’t bodge it in the home straight (no self-deprication intended ;) )

I spent the time on detailing, detail painting and weathering in the engine bay.

As I began looking at the alternator and comparing it to some reference pictures, I realised that it is actually very wrong. Where in the real part there is a grove the kit part has a raised edge. There is nothing I can do about this (Gridgirl, you need to talk to your lathe owning friend about this highly visible part – it would look brilliant in metal!!;)) but I felt that at least it would benefit from some bolt heads so I took a leaf out of the spruemaster’s (quadzero) book and sliced and glued some on which were then detail painted in titanium gold.

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5633/alternator010uz.jpg

The carburettor was detailed with the Titanium gold and then given a wash

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7364/carb012at.jpg

The air filter was also detailed.
In ref pictures you can see a hose clamp which I was going to make with BMF but then I thought that nothing looks more like metal than real metal, so I took some sprue from a PE fret, polished it slightly, bent it to shape and CA in place.

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4436/airfilter014rx.jpg

The engine was washed with Mr. MPWR and my awesome oil filter was installed.

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/6909/engine013fp.jpg
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5429/engine028xd.jpg


At this point I started to get a bit carried away with myself.
I came up with a wonderful idea of how to make a simple screen wash bottle overly complicated :rofl: :silly:.

The idea was to try and paint it in such a way to create an illusion of water being visible through the translucent plastic :screwy:.
What I did was to first prime the part with white primer, mask off the top half of the part and spray the lower half with a darker colour – I chose Tamiya Buff.

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/7739/washerbottle014id.jpg

This was then sprayed all over with a thinned out matt white.

I kind of feel that the idea was interesting but the final result didn’t work too well. Might be worth experimenting with on further builds though to find a good color/mix set up. The bottle will of course be detailed with a hose later.

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4936/washerbottle021dt.jpg


Next a came a more interesting idea (for me, anyway) which came about more or less by accident while I was detail painting and weathering the radiator.

I want the engine bay to be pretty mucky and gunky and the radiator especially will be exposed to all the elements – after all, it is in the “front line”.

After it was painted black, I took my “sable” toothpick :biggrin: and lightly scratched everything with matte aluminium and followed this with a wash of Rustall and then Deadflat (very interesting stuff, that!)

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/562/radiator018gb.jpg
http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/2927/radiator027xh.jpg

I had originally intended to put some mesh in front of teh fan as can be seen in reference pictures but everything I had was much too fine. However, as Murphy’s law would have it, I had to fix the kitchen tap and the filter dropped out of it in a million pieces and look what I found!! :evillol:

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/1458/radiator031wp.jpg

Whoa! Looks good! Soaked for 30 seconds in Mr. Muscle descaler and whadda ya got?

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/4180/radiator044gy.jpg

I primed the larger weave grill, sprayed it with auto gloss black and then scratched it back to bare metal in places. This is the finished assembly which took 20 minutes in total to make and actually looks worse in the photo than in real life (normally, it’s the other way round  ).

http://img14.imageshack.us/img14/5944/radiator055io.jpg

Here’s a dry fit of some of the parts – I can already see that I am going to have a problem with radiator/engine/body fit :uhoh:

http://img371.imageshack.us/img371/7898/testfit012dv.jpg

http://img15.imageshack.us/img15/3080/testfit026kd.jpg


Thanks for looking.

PS: Gridgirl, I enjoyed myself this weekend and think that I did good ;)

http://i9.photobucket.com/albums/a99/quadzero/avatar_ani_080.gif
this just made my whole day. i love what you are doing with this. you really show off skills that the average "joe lunchbox" can learn and apply to their models but you really shine with how refined and how far you take it. this is top notch.

My god, Saint Kluz you done some strange miracles:naughty: awesome, Steve

Another terrific update.

I'm sure you can do something with the alternator. Try cutting it in half in the center of the raised ridge with a razor saw. Flat sand the halves until the ridge is removed, then cut a thin (looks to be about 0.030"?) slice of sprue of an apropriate diameter for the winding section. Then just glue it together like a sandwich.

The grille on the fan intake looks spot on. As far as the fan, though- I haven't done the research, but I would have guessed it would have been made of moulded plastic instread of metal? Just a thought.

Wow, by the time my oil filter looks that beat up, I figure it must be time for an oil change!

The rusted engine mount is great looking. Rust-all, huh? May have to try that.

Keep it up, it's coming together!

UPDATE: 19.01.2006

3 hours work this morning from start to finish :screwy:
I think this is called the brake master cylinder.
This is ABSOLUTELY the LAST part I am making for this car (apart from the tow-bar I promised 2CV :rolleyes: )


This is what the kit part looks like. It will probably be fairly visible in the finished engine bay.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8149/kitpart2qc.jpg

This is what the original looks like in my reference picture:

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5643/reference2ao.jpg

Started of with a piece of 2,5x2,5mm styrene rod(?) which I stuck in my Unimat and turned to get the round end.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/3294/mastercyl010rs.jpg

I stuck on a piece of hex rod to simulate something or other.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5836/mastercyl028nx.jpg

Carved 2 cubes of the same square rod to make the reservoirs.
2 slices of different diameter round rod to make the closing cap.
Another bit of hex rod stuck on there for a bit of extra detail

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/285/mastercyl032of.jpg

Painting.
Cylinder base is Alclad2 Duralumin, reservoirs are painted a mix of Tamiya XF Buff + X1 and the cap is a mix of XF green + X1.
I didn’t play with trying to "hint" at brake fluid inside this time :biggrin:

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/2904/mastercyl041gl.jpg

The finished part.
It will be hit with Mr. MPWR and some weathering dusts etc later.
A piece of brass wire will represent the brake line coming out of the cylinder.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/8800/mastercyl054ct.jpg

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/6938/mastercyl060ks.jpg

Now for the funny bit – I think I’ve made it slightly over scale and it might not fit in the engine bay :rofl: :rofl:
I had fun making it, though!!

MPWR:
I think you got me there with the fan :blush: although reference material is divided on this issue. I have some pictures where the fan is very clearly white plastic and other photos where it could be either. I would agree with you that from a factory fit point of view they were probably made of plastic but then, there is artistic licence to be considered :biggrin:

I had to beat the oil filter up so you can’t see how crappy it is! :rofl:

Thanks for looking and gladly hear any comments as always.

This is ABSOLUTELY the LAST part I am making for this car
Never say this is the last part! There's always room for more detail!

Looks like a great improvement on the kit part. Too clean though! Spilled brake fluid has a way of making things filthy. More Mr. MPWR!:rofl::rolleyes:

So let's see it next to the kit part, or in the engine bay!

Machined styrene- now why have I never tried that? Must be nice to simply cement other bits of styrene onto a machined part....

Looking forward to seeing it all with the bodywork (what's left of it) installed.

I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking at, but should the port between the reservoir lobes have another line leading to the rear brakes?

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/5643/reference2ao.jpg

"...but Jaques- ve don' need ze rear onez! Ve only have ze duex horsepower!"

"...but Jaques- ve don' need ze rear onez! Ve only have ze duex horsepower!"
:rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :rofl: :bigthumb:

I'm not exactly sure what I'm looking at, but should the port between the reservoir lobes have another line leading to the rear brakes?
BINGO!! Thanks for that!! :worshippy I think you must be right.
Damn, am I glad I stuck that extra bit of plastic on there!! Ufff!
I didn't know what the heck it was for but I would be mightily pissed right now if I hadn't :)

Must be nice to simply cement other bits of styrene onto a machined part...
Sure is! ;) Truth is my Unimat is actually duffed :( and it can't cope with aluminium any more. Trying slowly to fugure out what's wrong (actually, I know - I took it apart :uhoh: :shakehead )

So let's see it next to the kit part, or in the engine bay!
I shall try and oblige - promise not to laugh? :naughty: :evillol:

:worshippy again, nice skills with that scratch building.

:licka::worshippy absolutely stunning

Looking good, I like all the detail your adding. Can't wait to see the finished car.

Can't wait to see the finished car.

Me too!! :lol:

Thanks guys for folowing me with this build :bigthumb:
I really hope to have it 90% finished by the end of next week.
I have a secret plan for this weekend, though - a kind of modeling holiday :naughty: :wink:

Simply amazing!

W/E are my worst modelling time: I've a lot of free time but filled by noisy childs, barking "turkey", boring parents, friends that seems coming here every time I put the first decal in the water, R/C waiting for a drop of nitro and offended cold barbecue waiting for some steaks and "salsiccia": our WE and the entire wordl could be better if everyone modelling something:grinyes::grinyes::grinyes:
oh s**t is just friday evening! only a night before the WE

Well, Steve, I promise to post nothing until monday, so looks like you pick your duecavalli to the contest so far:wink:

W/E are my worst modelling time: I've a lot of free time but filled by noisy childs, barking "turkey", boring parents, friends that seems coming here every time I put the first decal in the water, R/C waiting for a drop of nitro and offended cold barbecue waiting for some steaks and "salsiccia": our WE and the entire wordl could be better if everyone modelling something:grinyes::grinyes::grinyes:
oh s**t is just friday evening! only a night before the WE

Well, Steve, I promise to post nothing until monday, so looks like you pick your duecavalli to the contest so far:wink:

:grinno: :naughty: :nono:
Au contraire mon chere ami!!!
My weekend is going to be 110% modeling (wife and Alex away for a week, 2 oldest girls with friends and my Turkey loves sleeping under my feet in my workshop :biggrin:).
I just meant Jean Paul is going into the box for the weekend and I'm going to do SOMETHING ELSE!! HURRAH!!!! :bananasmi :jump3: :ylsuper: :silly: :D :loser: