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dampachi
03-01-2005, 01:52 AM
....360hp doesn't get you 160mph traps...

-Jayson-
03-01-2005, 10:28 AM
ugh a foot of snow fell last night. . .ill be lucky to drive my car, let alone race

SpeedDemon101
03-01-2005, 11:31 AM
....360hp doesn't get you 160mph traps...
thats what i was trying to get at...

chexmixa
03-01-2005, 02:57 PM
....360hp doesn't get you 160mph traps...

Well, i wouldn't say that. We don't know anything about the car other than it is a GTI with 360 whp. What if the car was just a chasey a roll cage and those plastic body's they put on drag cars. that makes it what (rough guess) 1800 pounds? add street tires to the equation to explain a loss of traction and its possible. Or pink elephants came from the sky and accelerated his car to 160 mph on the quarter. Or he could have slicks and was real slow on the reaction time. That happened to a friend of mine's dad, he has a steptronic M3 and accidently put it into reverse rather then launch mode and ran a 17 secound quarter at 110 mph.

Personally i am going with the pink elephants theory.

dampachi
03-01-2005, 03:01 PM
Trap speed is an indication of power. 360whp is not enough power for 160mph traps. If he was gutted, blah blah..he'd run a really fast 1/4 mile at around 108-112mph.

chexmixa
03-01-2005, 03:12 PM
Trap speed is an indication of power. 360whp is not enough power for 160mph traps. If he was gutted, blah blah..he'd run a really fast 1/4 mile at around 108-112mph.

That still that doesn't explain the pink elephants.

dampachi
03-01-2005, 03:19 PM
Several hits of acid, of course.

chexmixa
03-01-2005, 03:24 PM
Several hits of acid, of course.

ohh, fair enough.

I still wish we could know a lil more about this mythical GTI and its 160 mph trap speed.

Have u guys seen the vids with that 360 whp GTI and the Turboed IS300 smoken LS1's. is this the GTI they are talken about?

dampachi
03-01-2005, 03:29 PM
A 360whp car better be smoking LS1s. They're only rated at 320hp. And I'm not sure what they actually put down to the rear wheels.

chexmixa
03-01-2005, 03:37 PM
A 360whp car better be smoking LS1s. They're only rated at 320hp. And I'm not sure what they actually put down to the rear wheels.

of course it should and that IS300 in there is dynoed for like 500+ whp and 466 ftlbs of torque. i will see if i can find a link to the vids when i get home.

I brought it up becuase i wanted to know if anyone has seen these vids and if that GTI could possibly be the one in the movie i saw. I believe its a vision boy production movie or something like that.

Ace$nyper
03-01-2005, 03:37 PM
nailed a civic EX 92-95 with tezzas from stop to about 50 *going after a merge* with mah jeep i nicked named the 4Liter civic eater

dampachi
03-01-2005, 03:38 PM
haha, good job ace.

Ace$nyper
03-01-2005, 03:49 PM
haha, good job ace.
thank you sir
i swear that old I6 moves that rust bucket pretty well well for a truck :icon16:

CassiesMan
03-01-2005, 04:04 PM
I've seen the vid, but only the IS300 portion. My favorite part? "Chase this bitch."

chexmixa
03-01-2005, 04:10 PM
Dunno if u saw this part, but my fave was they did a then and now. They showed a Z28 getten beat by the IS300 then they showed him 3 months l8er with a new 100 shot of nos along with some bolt ons and it rapes the crap outa the IS300. Even though it was from a stop.

street_racer_00
03-01-2005, 06:04 PM
Yeah, I have a video of a jackson s/c'd integra GSR beating an LS1 camaro...only problem I have with those kinds of races is the whole time I'm thinking "man, that dude probably put 7 or 8 grand in his car just to beat a STOCK Z28 camaro".

Polygon
03-01-2005, 06:55 PM
Another exciting kill in the Sebring.

I was on my way home from the chiropractor last night. I was at a light to get onto the freeway. It is a two lane and a Honda Prelude pulls up. It was and early 90s Lude. Anyhow, he kept inching up so I figured he was going to take off, sure enough he did, I could tell by the squealing tires. I floored it and he had the lead on me at first and then I started to gain on him. Also, too bad for him, the turn onto the onramp in pretty sharp and he had to slow down while I just kept it floored. After that he just gave up.

Not much of a kill, but then again, the Sebring isn't much of a fast car but it sure can hold the road.

CivRacer95
03-01-2005, 07:03 PM
Just out of curiousity, what did that prelude look like Poly? Also where did this take place? L8...

Aerowitz
03-01-2005, 09:33 PM
I'm back, and I'm damn proud of the Jetta's freed up power.

Last Sunday, I made the usual weekly run to Ames to stock up on shit. That's about a 45 minute drive down I35 both ways in heavy traffic. Anyways, I had a jolly good time opening her up on the journey, and I killed just about everything that crept up on me...
- Sentra XE
- Civic EG
- Grand Prix (2 of them)
- Crown Victoria (I dunno why he even tried)
- Lancer 8 (not Evo)

I had a real good run-in with a Mazda RX-8, and I was actually hanging on his tail, but my exit came up and he took off as I hit the brakes to take the turn.

In town, as I was about to leave the mall, a nice new red GTO came up on me and did a fly-by. We hit a red light, and he ended up getting caught in traffic in the other lane while I just sped off.

Today, we're facing the aftermath of a minor snowstorm, so I'm using that as an excuse to play the Chaos Theory demo all day. Screw racing today! It's cold! :)

dampachi
03-01-2005, 09:35 PM
lancer 8?...no evo? WTF?

mason_RsX
03-01-2005, 09:41 PM
lancer 8?...no evo? WTF?

What he said

CivRacer95
03-01-2005, 09:44 PM
You mean the OZ Rally edition? Otherwise, I'm with dampachi. Lancer 8? L8...

street_racer_00
03-01-2005, 09:55 PM
they call the thing in my pants the "lancer 8"

SpeedDemon101
03-01-2005, 11:06 PM
yeah well...i dont know anything about that gti besides the fact that i was reading eurotuner and it was inthere. it ran a 13sec 1/4 @ 160 something. i dont recall exactly...but thats what i read.

dampachi
03-01-2005, 11:19 PM
it didn't trap 160mph with 360whp. the end.

CassiesMan
03-02-2005, 02:17 AM
Had a coupla quick kills tonight. We went to go see Constantine (Go see it now. I order you! Bad Ass Movie), and on the way up, decide to make a quick run down the strip. We dont see anythign for the most part, till we pull in behind a red Civic with a can and a 'vtec' badge and a Focus, debadged, but the two door wagon kind. I'm not gonna say it was an SVT, but the wheels looked like the SVT ones. Anyway, they are throwin revs up at each other, and when the light goes green, they both take off. I let them get a full two lengths, before punching it, and I walk up on both of them fast, and pop in behind the Focus (it was tail to nose with the Civic), right next to the Civ. The guy in teh Civic does a double take, but the Focus turns. I slow down with the hope that I'll get the light with the Civic, but it turns green, and he goes for the fly by. I let him get his nose to my door, before I get on it again, and hold him there. My freind looks over, waves at the guy, then I punch it, and we take off, and pretty much walk away from the Civic.

Next kill, we were comming back from the movie, and we were gettin on the high way when what I think was a Nissan of some sort with a fart can and a 'custom import' or some such nonesense sticker on the side skirt pulls next to us. I tap it down into third, get the tach spike, and the engine gets quite a bit louder. He punches it, I let him get up by a nose, then jump it, and walk away up to 100. I actually slowed down to 65 (5 under the limit), and moved into his lane, and he still wouldnt catch up to me...I just wanted to give the guy a thumbs up.

Aerowitz
03-02-2005, 12:21 PM
WTF are you guys snorting blocks? It's a Mitsubishi Lancer. It's the base model version of the Evolution VIII. No spoiler or anything. Big fat POS car. Lancer VIII/8. God damn.

Are you all really that braindead? Not all Lancers are Evolutions, you know.

Aerowitz
03-02-2005, 12:28 PM
http://auto.consumerguide.com/auto/new/reviews/full/index.cfm/id/38200/

Here. LOOK at the damn thing. That was what I was facing on the highway. It was either a Lancer ES or LS. I see more LS models than anything else around here, so that was probably one of them.

If you still don't understand, maybe you should retake elementary school.

CassiesMan
03-02-2005, 12:31 PM
I've never heard the none EVO models refered to by numbers. I've never heard it called a Lancer 8, just a Lancer ES or LS...calm down man...eesh

Polygon
03-02-2005, 12:53 PM
Just out of curiousity, what did that prelude look like Poly? Also where did this take place? L8...

It looked like this one:

http://memimage.cardomain.net/member_images/11/web/635000-635999/635419_2_full.jpg

The race happened on 123 South in Draper.

CivRacer95
03-02-2005, 03:41 PM
Ah many times have I just floored it coming out of that exit. Same with the University Exit coming out of Orem going north. I always do. Sometimes I catch a quick little race there but nothing special. Mostly it's just seeing who gets cut off when the two lanes end and come into the freeway. L8...

Aerowitz
03-03-2005, 12:55 AM
Sorry, it's just that when I say that I saw and/or raced a Lancer, people generally ask if it was VII or VIII type. That's just what I'm accustomed to around here.

drftk1d
03-03-2005, 12:59 AM
no non evolution lancer had a number designation.

why arent you racing that 7 of yours?

devster18
03-03-2005, 10:50 PM
The other morning on the road to my high school, approximately 1/4mile before. I came up to the last light before the school. I was in my mom's SC300. I pulled away normally, and I heard a revving beside me. It was a dark red late model Dodge Neon base. He had difficulty keeping up when I was just driving normally but I just said **** it, and I gunned it. The SC300 went to 2nd, and it just pulled away. I put 3 or 4 car lengths on the poor Neon, and then I had to slow down for the turn lane. Its kind of a boring kill but I take what I can get.
(1995 lexus sc300 auto, no mods.)

Aerowitz
03-05-2005, 12:49 AM
why arent you racing that 7 of yours?

It's in the shop getting an engine rebuild and a few performance parts installed. I didn't even want to try putting stress on an engine with 175,000 on the clock. Don't worry, it'll be causing terror on the streets soon enough.

Aerowitz
03-05-2005, 12:55 AM
Hahaha I can remember when some chick and all of her ugly friends tried to jump me in her beat up Neon when I passed them on the highway. This was in Summer '04 when I just moved here, so nobody knew about me yet. This was also when the Jetta was running stock with atx. I still beat her pretty easily.

Never tried racing a Neon SRT-4. I wish I could just to see what they've got.

porscheguy9999
03-05-2005, 01:52 PM
Never tried racing a Neon SRT-4. I wish I could just to see what they've got.

They've got some power. And to be correct, its not a Neon, it's simply an SRT-4. Neon has an image Dodge doesnt want the SRT-4 to have. I really dont know if they sell well, but Ive seen a few around Minneapolis. But many more Evo's and STi's here.

devster18
03-05-2005, 03:03 PM
Last night a friend and I went out in the SC300. We raced a Nissan 200sx with 3 kids in it. 2 rolling races, and then a race from a ligbt. Just to give you how an idea of how bad it was; from the light we immediately pulled away and left the 200sx 3-5 car lengths back by the time we hit 50.

We then raced an early '90s Audi sedan from a roll at around 45mph. Similar results as the previous race. Nothing exciting.

Finally we raced a 1990circa Accord. It was about what you would expect. We raped it.

I wish we had faster cars around here. I'm buying a 300zxtt and thats only going to make it worse. Any guys in the twin cities wanna race?

Aerowitz
03-05-2005, 05:10 PM
How much power do they kick out? All I really notice on those things is a more aggressive body kit and a louder exhaust.

It'd probably beat the Jetta, though. I only have around 120hp with the shit I have on it and it's a slug to get up to speed. Just gotta wait until the RX-7 is finished... just another few weeks to go!

Didn't know it was just called SRT-4. My bad.

TheStang00
03-05-2005, 05:52 PM
SRT-4 = 212 hp

Twizted_3KGT
03-05-2005, 09:03 PM
They only have 212 hp?? are you sure? this is the same car that beats the 500 hp Viper in the 1/4 mile? I thought it was like 280 or something

dampachi
03-05-2005, 09:06 PM
...SRT-4s don't beat the viper in the 1/4. What the hell are you smoking? SRT-4s are rated at 230hp.

PWRDbyUNCLEbens
03-05-2005, 11:34 PM
...SRT-4s don't beat the viper in the 1/4. What the hell are you smoking? SRT-4s are rated at 230hp.
This is the second time I've heard people say that the srt-4 is faster then the viper. I explain that the viper is rear wheel drive with twice the torque, and horsepower but they refused to believe me. Im not saying you twisted are the same, but I don't see where people are getting their info. I came very close to calling my brother out that night, to show them what a viper could do. It doesn't matter they'll (ricers) make excuses why they lost by several hundred car lengths, and they probably would even refuse to race it. Once again I'm not saying your the same I'm just venting. :smile:

Mr. Luos
03-05-2005, 11:41 PM
I beat a SRT-4 that was modded. Ran from 20-60.
Man, little fucking car was fast. I was barely pulling him. Didn't get much chance to get into the LS1's range (top end) but he was right there. Pulled him hard for a brief nano-second, then he hit boost, and was almost dead even. I had a slight pull on him.
He was running 17.5 PSI at the time. I try not to use this excuse, but if we had raced at sea level, I would have walked him.

PWRDbyUNCLEbens
03-05-2005, 11:49 PM
Wouldn't sea level benefit him just as much? I'm just asking because I don't see how that would work unless you were carb'd. Maybe Im wrong school me if you will. What temp was it outside? He could probably make the same arguement if was warm. Turbocharged cars love teh cold air.

Mr. Luos
03-05-2005, 11:58 PM
5400 feet above sea level....

He would gain a little, but I would gain a bunch. Sea level would probably bump him into the low 13's, and probably bump me into the mid-high 12's.
It was night in autumn. Probably 40-45 degrees outside.
We run in very thin air here. Turbo helps compress that air, thus causing less loss than a N/A car. Not sure of why exactly, I just know I am slow here.

PWRDbyUNCLEbens
03-06-2005, 12:00 AM
:bigthumb:

street_racer_00
03-06-2005, 03:35 AM
Met at Wal-mart again, a lot more cars this time...went to "the spot", some guy got a phone call said his friend was pulled over a couple miles from where we were by 3 cops asking them if they were going to the street races...an auto Z28 and that swapped firebird raced twice, Z28 won both times, then it was high time we left before the cops came...I met up with the guy with the Tsi that I raced last week and a couple of other guys and just shot the shit for 15 minutes and then we all went home....laaaaaaame, fucking cops have nothing better to do around here.

Aerowitz
03-07-2005, 12:13 PM
Shit if it could pull the LS1, I'm not so sure about putting the RX-7 up against one...

The car had 188rwhp stock when I got it, but I swapped in a '91 turbo motor for 200, and then with all the extra mods I put on her she should push out about 230 ponies at normal boost.

It might stack up well against SRT-4, but maybe not.

chexmixa
03-07-2005, 03:02 PM
The 04 Srt-4 is rated at 230 bhp and 250ftlbs of torque. It dynos for roughly 225 hp at the wheels and 240ftlbs of torque at the wheels. It weighs roughly 2800-2900 pounds depending if u have the moon roof or not. Dodge is a lil off with the ratings but hey, what ever keeps my insurance lower. :)

I think your RX-7 with 230 bhp would prolly beat an srt-4 from a roll, not sure though cause i don't know how much yah weigh or your whp. From a dig u will dominate an Srt-4 if u hook up well.

P.S. if u don believe me on the dyno for a stock srt-4 i can allways show u some dyno sheets i have seen.

drftk1d
03-07-2005, 03:07 PM
fc rx7 weight varies from 2600 (86-88 base models) to 3000 (late model convertibles).

his is probably around the 2800 range, i think it might be close.

chexmixa
03-07-2005, 03:09 PM
yeah it would be very close, would be n awsome race. He would anihilate me from a dig but from a roll i might get him.

drftk1d
03-07-2005, 03:19 PM
7s have great top end and crap low end.

chexmixa
03-07-2005, 03:25 PM
Hmm, Sounds like a drivers Race then cause the Srt-4 has some very nice top end.

Does that mean rx-7s are not great from a dig? Only thing i really know about them is they are 1.3's and rotoray. I know almost nothing about them i don't even know standered hp and tq numbers for the most part. I hope some day i will see a nice lil rx-7 all alone on the road. :)

Btw how long tell u get a nice lil turbo on yer car?

PWRDbyUNCLEbens
03-07-2005, 05:45 PM
I would suspect the lack of torque to be a killer for RX-7's in a stop light race.

I toyed around with a 96' or so mustang GT hardtop AUTO. this one didn't seem as fast as my friends. We started out at 60ish, and I didn't even have to downshift into 3rd to keep up with him. I asctually had to back off around 80mph because I was pullin on him. I will get a mustang GT kill eventually trust me. I'm almost possitive it was a GT because it had the dual exhaust/bumper with "Mustang GT" on it, Disc brakes, and I kill V6's. its just a matter of time before I race him for real. I'd hate to see a repeat of what happened with my buddies race though :disappoin

04BlackVitz
03-08-2005, 05:48 PM
I raced a 98ish VW GTI from a light. He revved at me as I pulled up and was looking at me, so I decided to go for it. End of first he was a nose ahead, end of 2nd he was half a car ahead, and I shut it down at 130km/h in 3rd because of the location and he just kept on going. So he ended up beating me by about a car length. I was surprised though, I expect a GTI to rape my Echo hatchback. Maybe I am just a better driver.

street_racer_00
03-08-2005, 07:44 PM
Whaaaaat?? There was no way that was a GTi then, unless you've done something to your Echo you aren't telling us about, hmmmm?

Mr. Luos
03-08-2005, 08:04 PM
Took my car over to the local exhaust shop to get a 3" dump added so the exhaust was finding its way to the ground, instead of straight out the y-pipe halfway under the car.

Anyways, I got in a VERY short run with a newer blue Mustang GT. It sounded awesome, but didn't have much behind it, so probably just exhaust as mods. We got stuck at a light a couple cars back. We both kinda took off slow so that traffic ahead would move forward. Got enough run to run up to maybe 70 from about 30. I hesitated on hitting the gas on purpose. No honks, he just went WOT on me. He jumped, I waited just a half a second, and also went WOT. By 65-70 I had almost two cars on him. He gave me a thumbs up, and turned off the road.

dampachi
03-08-2005, 08:56 PM
SRT-4s are quick. But very over rated. This asshole who lives around here has a modded SRT-4..I know he has the mopar BOV..and he doesn't have any exhaust tips..but anyway. I pulled up to him back in the day and he said SRT-4s run low 13s stock. :rolleyes: Awhile back I lined up next to him while he was stock and he said I was slow..so we raced and I beat him with him at my quarter panels. Then he kept talking shit. So whatever. Then I raced him the other night with his mods..and we ran dead even from 20mph up to 80mph..I let off because we were coming up on a car that was in his lane..so it'd be dumb if I kept going since he couldn't. So he yelled out his window "YOU'RE SLOW" and swirved around the car and kept going. What a loser. I guess that means GT mustangs are low 13 second cars stock? Haha...fucking idiot.

Sleepr awd
03-09-2005, 12:04 AM
SRT4? yeah i raced one, but only because non of my other friends would, i had it at my rear bumper through first and second gear, then when i shifted into third he starts flying up, i'm thinking i took him that far only cuz i could launch better, basically the same as a mildly modded 2g eclipse turbo (I/E/BOV)

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