Recap of the English F1 fleet - Take 2...

I love that F1 and hope to see it someday:)

Will you be at Goodwood Gavin? (in march at themebers club or at the Festival of Speed?)

more pictures in this thread...


http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=63&t=1460900&mid=228720&i=0&nmt=McLaren+F1+%2D+Engine+out%2E%2E%2E&mid=228720


Amazing topic and loved to see all those tech pics!

XP1LM in Courchevel now

http://i.imgur.com/qwW46O8.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/hurstg01134/10848486_1562555687324937_2030969850_n_zps97574001 .jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/hurstg01135/10848074_1544242865814160_258851338_n_zpsdc92e90d. jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/hurstg01134/10818050_1550844735163154_1222297801_n_zpsdf2c25e1 .jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/hurstg01134/10838578_393641380810664_1197311790_n1_zpsfe375597 .jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/hurstg01134/10838316_379195235588042_1659456284_n_zps93144f26. jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/hurstg01134/10865209_639897296120596_364245424_n_zpsb660e820.j pg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/hurstg01134/10848454_390885171067734_490237684_n_zps3c34270c.j pg

Thanks for the images!
Next up is Members meeting perhaps. I really hope it would be there.

Would be lovely to see it running.

http://news.born.com/mclaren-backstage-at-le-born/

http://news.born.com/born-ultimate-programme/

Still the one to have but the cost of getting it from McLaren would be heart stopping even for the hugely ritch.

I think they will never sell XPLM

I totally agree, I was not suggesting they would, merely that if they ever did consider it it would be for an astonishing sum of money that would make even the super rich eyes water.

#061 spotted in Wimbledon

http://i.imgur.com/rqsYPpk.jpg

XP3 looking glorious - pics courtesy of bigjon32_jh

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/hurstg01151/10547348_784552524914154_452149481_n_zpsfc1c7a52.j pg

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Gavin's out and about again in #028 :) this time at the Ace Cafe :thumbsup:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/hurstg01163/11026091_630022223796655_8501377885683982899_n_zps qd9iebrx.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/hurstg01163/1609671_630022167129994_2641693527220925082_n_zpsr nwnrwek.jpg

I found this picture on flickr and I was wondering if this is a brown, black or possibly another color of F1. The chocolate color on the interior is unique to me and I do not recall seeing an F1 in this colour. :) I do not want to jump to conclusions as to whether it is "Creighton Brown" or not.

https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8650/16693593915_14d3abcd37_z.jpg


Hi-Res: https://farm9.staticflickr.com/8650/16693593915_4f1c18497b_h.jpg

I found it on this account: https://www.flickr.com/photos/128264505@N05/16693593915/in/photolist-rra2SK-pvU89S-bnXVYz-5KdVJQ-rqpmLV-fKL17A-j2mVb-qQz9nb-aVMj4R-5JHyt3-7HNvjc-9xscgt-5JMvUD-7KZCQ7-7KVEHp-aanRXu-aMLTG8-qEC8bi-pYEQLz-piLpv-5KdVnQ-8Xxg2o-qPQump-5K9EHM-5K9EEr-5K9EBx-5KdVEC-bnXVkn-9y3YPM-qMo6jZ-aak4wT-7pSZzh-7pSZfb-7pSZaS-7pP5fa-7pP5mp-7pSZrC-7pSZxG-9JxUK-cPCfpb-aCso47-d8R7D7-auh47X-dpDRMZ-d8R7uf-d8R84q-d8R7cQ-aSqGoZ-6VMNUQ-6VHKrZ

This is probably 039 in Brazilian Brown which was displayed in the UK once when new.

Really great find!

>8^)
ER

That looks amazing. The F1 really suits brown.

Shame we'll never likely see #039 again.

Never say never.

>8^)
ER

Looks like #028 may be on show at this years London Classic Car Show

http://i.imgur.com/LCiBpYY.jpg

I guess so

http://www.classicandsportscarshow.com/page.cfm/action=press/libID=1/libEntryID=7/listID=1

As I have seen 028 at the FoS I am not sure to go unless it will be another chassis I have not yet seen...

Poor photo, but you get the idea ;)

http://i.imgur.com/4t7kXmj.jpg

Looks like #028 has been involved in a scrape. Hope TT9 and everyone involved is okay. My facts may need checking as a response at the end of the thread too.

http://www.pistonheads.com/gassing/topic.asp?h=0&f=23&t=1588473

I understand TT9 is ok, and the car had a 'moment' but it wasn't too bad as it came on to the M25 from a slip road after a 'Cars and Curry' night. I wasn't told about the wing damage, hope it's not too bad

There was a report on Instagram not long after, without any picture. I was tagged as was Pani but it has since been removed. Not sure if that was by request but the car was seen being transported away on a recovery truck so I doubt it survived unscathed. :(

Some of the paint on the rear bumper already wasn't original to the car as it was damaged in transport after Cliff Meltzer sold the car. So I guess it's not the greatest tragedy that it might need some more, but unfortunate nonetheless.

>8^)
ER

Am sure MSO can get it back to pristine.

#069 is now publicly for sale through McLaren :thumbsup:

:runaround: :runaround: :runaround: :runaround:

Several pretty cool pics in here:
http://www.evo.co.uk/mclaren/f1/17666/the-perfect-mclaren-f1-mclaren-special-operations-selling-2800-mile-car

Lots of pieces of the story on that one appear to be missing from EVO's glossy overview.

>8^)
ER

Mclaren has a press release for it on their website. You can download some hi-res photos from this link:

http://cars.mclaren.press/en-gb/releases/366

Disappointing inaccuracy...

"Original down to the correct numbered McLaren F1 book and limited edition owner’s watch presented on delivery"

>8^)
ER

I'll throw Jalopnik's article on 069 in ring:


You Can Now Buy A Perfect McLaren F1 For A Heap Of Cash (http://jalopnik.com/you-can-buy-a-perfect-mclaren-f1-for-a-heap-of-cash-1773797284)

Did #069 come delivered with black wheels?

If it didn't the first job for me would be taking them back to the standard alloy colour.

No, it wasn't even delivered originally with black paint on the body. Black wheels are a new addition within the past decade, after the High Downforce Kit was removed, which also was not original to the car.

>8^)
ER

according to the McLaren F1 history chart, chassis 069 was the 60th road car built. It was the second of 6 built in 1998 (the final year of production). And was originally delivered in Mercedes Brilliant Silver.

It is interesting looking at the chart, McLaren's formula 1 team didn't start it's partnership with Mercedes until 1995. Up to that point all the silver cars were magnesium silver (and some other darker silvers). No mention of Mercedes in any of the colors. Starting in 1996 Mercedes Brilliant Silver was added to the color pallet, and was used several times after it's first use on chassis number 049. I wonder how BMW felt about the use of Mercedes colors, blatantly called out Mercedes colors, on a BMW powered car...

http://www.diomedia.com/imagePreview/01ASXY64?imageId=17585074&imageCode=01ASXY64&contributor=UPPA&siteName=www.diomedia.com&title=&location=&ds=800&newStyle=1&tc=FFFFFF&tbc=333333&qv=95&icc=1&cl=1

An interesting pic. I think this is the first time I recall seeing this photo from 1999.

Here is the link: http://www.diomedia.com/stock-photo-mclaren-international-woking-business-park-surrey-compulsory-credit-uppaphotoshot-photo-ugl-015997c-28-31031999-image17585074.html

13R has changed his number plate to meet his new brother.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aO7gT2EQDpk


From M1 GTR to F1 LRK

http://www.dailysportscar.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/06/LARK-mclaren-P1-F1.jpg

Trackday at Silverstone:

https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClZPEAVWkAAxfXI.jpg


Bigger image: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/ClZPEAVWkAAxfXI.jpg:large

Seeing as it's at a public event and been spotted over the past couple of weeks, I can now say that #005 has been expatriated back to the UK

https://www.lovecars.com/news/2016/07/30/mclaren-f1-005-from-brunei-to-the-uk

The first indication I witnessed of #005's transportation from Brunei was from the Instagram user "lamalastair". He posted a shot of #005 at an airport in China:

https://www.instagram.com/p/-eXSeTrwxt/?taken-by=lamalastair

I recently saw a good-quality shot on flickr of the car with the "early xj220-style" mirrors on the public road with the registration "L664 MEP" and figured it was probably 005 being used on the road which was pretty cool :)

http://farm8.static.flickr.com/7435/27652417645_d6302035a0_m.jpg

Hi- Res link: https://www.flickr.com/photos/reecegarsidephotography/27652417645/in/photolist-J8xSnt-H145tt-HUq1S8-HvDG89-DXaMMR-EJ5iKC-EsqFtb-Ffftcb-GWNYy7-F54Kwh-DUebx8-Dpt8qX-DURvm9-EbwBgQ-EdJSXH-DNu68g-EjDEAN-EbwyBS-EmYFac-DpfenJ-EFraBE-ErkpQn-ECCj5W-ECGzpX-EbwAts-EdJSbH-DNu5B6-DNu47T-EmYGbk-DNu3Kk-EbwzFW-FJ93Hk-ERUnFP-ESihuG-EJALiG-Eow427-F5KBZt-DXr3Q2-Ejet85-FnwyxP-Fw4Hr5-EaYN5C-Fw4Hqy-Fw4Hq3-Dp3ekn-EhcgG2-FeuVFM-EdQ4sv-Dpif4Y-EjJ3sL

Sometime after on Facebook "Freedom Logistics" on their FB page posted that "We recently handled the import of a 1995 McLaren F1 by air freight. $11,000,000 insured value, Hong Kong to London"

https://lh3.googleusercontent.com/P58Z_QSHZ0dtydbV64xl64TVGyCggfYtJVu6lEqb7n1dqsXUs2 vNL3gRqnhYJW-I3LUSfA=s114

Here is their page:
https://www.facebook.com/freedomlogistics/photos/pb.169011789856441.-2207520000.1469983736./997852766972335/?type=3&theater


The car is in Bolesworth Cheshire for the 2016 Carfest North festival for the public to see and hopefully get some exposure to the public and perhaps professional photographers. I do like the look of the black rims, which makes it look like a #069 twin, but the silver rims look equally elegant in my opinion. :) I've heard rumors that Chris Evans could possibly be the owner of the car due to his connection with Carfest and #005's surroundings.

Is anyone planning to go to Carfest?

Additionally, there was some interesting pictures to show you guys of George Harrison's #025. A car that's rarely seen by the public. The pictures come from "Alastair Ladd Photography" which show #025 at Silverstone in 1996. Facebook is ranked #3 on Alexa's top 500 sites and I figure it's probably a good search engine to find cool Mclaren content opinion :wink:

https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11351120_480281732124626_645459389479295296_n.jpg? oh=76936d2a689a671235b36c7f83f0225b&oe=581FFBF5

In the picture below you can see the plate "M7 AUM" which confirms its #025 in its "Dark Purple Pearl" paint :smile:

https://scontent-yyz1-1.xx.fbcdn.net/v/t1.0-9/11351183_480281735457959_1837563999195384752_n.jpg ?oh=8eaffbaf3833047ff84e602ba478f0d4&oe=5817889E

Here is a link to the FB page: https://www.facebook.com/alastairladdphotography/photos/ms.c.eJwzsTAwsjA0N7IwtzQ0sjTWM4HwjU1NTM0tTS3hfCNDI xMzIzMA5wQJmQ~-~-.bps.a.480281725457960.1073741854.393432344142899/480281732124626/?type=3&theater

As always with things like this on #005, there is a big back story........

I won't say too much as myself and Erik promised the guy most closely involved in this back in late October / early November that we wouldn't divulge information as requested out of courtesy, but I'm pleased the new owner has it out and about for others to finally see it :thumbsup:

Oulton Park is about half an hour away, if I'd known about this I'd definitely have gotten a ticket.

Shit.

Does this mean anything for the other cars in Brunei?

It doesn't yet, but there is always hope for the future.

>8^)
ER

Are the rumors that Chris Evans bought this true? How man F1s are for sure still in Brunei?

keeping my eye out for 09R making an apearance

Trackday at Silverstone:


F1 07R and his new brother P1 XP05:

http://gtspirit.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/McLaren-F1-GTR-vs-P1-2.jpg

http://gtspirit.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/McLaren-F1-GTR-vs-P1-8.jpg

http://gtspirit.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/McLaren-F1-GTR-vs-P1-1.jpg

http://gtspirit.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/McLaren-F1-GTR-vs-P1-4.jpg

http://gtspirit.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/McLaren-F1-GTR-vs-P1-3.jpg

http://gtspirit.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/McLaren-F1-GTR-vs-P1-5.jpg

http://gtspirit.com/wp-content/uploads/2016/08/McLaren-F1-GTR-vs-P1-7.jpg

#005

https://s3-eu-west-1.amazonaws.com/lovecars/images/e5/12/ad/e512ad_554308_1pn0G5NrMCk0hJ5OoK9R.jpg


http://www.ukvehicle.com/L664MEP/

The black glass looks incredible. I do think that this car needs the black wheels again, just to tie everything together, given the black paintwork and the dark windows.

I spy an AF'er - come on Roger, show us your pics :thumbsup:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5879/QGYlx3.jpg

I also saw the car today, the event was the AVD Oldtimer Gran Prix 2016 at the Nürburgring. I can recommend this event to everybody in and near Germany, the sound of the old DTM or DRM cars is absolutely stunning!

Car looked very filthy, the owner must have driven the car there once again. Lots of scratches on the front splitter and stone chips on the car, you can definitely see it's high amount of miles. I liked it...

So he really uses the car like it should be used!
Fantastic. I would love to see this car some point!

I spy an AF'er - come on Roger, show us your pics :thumbsup:

https://imagizer.imageshack.com/img923/5879/QGYlx3.jpg


OK Greg, but only because you've been asking so politely:


http://img211.imagevenue.com/loc869/th_166537752_IMG_0099_122_869lo.JPG (http://img211.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=166537752_IMG_0099_122_869lo.JPG) http://img207.imagevenue.com/loc515/th_166594913_IMG_0101_122_515lo.JPG (http://img207.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=166594913_IMG_0101_122_515lo.JPG) http://img207.imagevenue.com/loc450/th_166635599_IMG_0105_122_450lo.JPG (http://img207.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=166635599_IMG_0105_122_450lo.JPG)
http://img31.imagevenue.com/loc111/th_166664940_IMG_0107_122_111lo.JPG (http://img31.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=166664940_IMG_0107_122_111lo.JPG) http://img177.imagevenue.com/loc408/th_166693692_IMG_0108_122_408lo.JPG (http://img177.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=166693692_IMG_0108_122_408lo.JPG) http://img202.imagevenue.com/loc160/th_166749489_IMG_0109_122_160lo.JPG (http://img202.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=166749489_IMG_0109_122_160lo.JPG)
http://img124.imagevenue.com/loc427/th_166803874_IMG_0110_122_427lo.JPG (http://img124.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=166803874_IMG_0110_122_427lo.JPG) http://img246.imagevenue.com/loc170/th_166855775_IMG_0114_122_170lo.JPG (http://img246.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=166855775_IMG_0114_122_170lo.JPG) http://img294.imagevenue.com/loc191/th_166908310_IMG_0115_122_191lo.JPG (http://img294.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=166908310_IMG_0115_122_191lo.JPG)
http://img46.imagevenue.com/loc385/th_166965168_IMG_0194_122_385lo.JPG (http://img46.imagevenue.com/img.php?image=166965168_IMG_0194_122_385lo.JPG)

Lovely to see this beast that dirty :smokin:

Thanks.
Have you heard that #020 had some overheating issues last weekend?

Hmmm has the indicator/sidelights reversed.
Wonder if there are different requirements in different countries?
i.e. Indicators or sidelights outboard.

Hmmm has the indicator/sidelights reversed.
Wonder if there are different requirements in different countries?
i.e. Indicators or sidelights outboard.

Reversed?
IMHO they are correctly placed.

For some reason I was sure the indicators were outboard of the sidelights usually.
mind saying that it's not unusual for them to be otherwise as they fit both ways.

http://aussieexotics.com/drivers/albums/userpics/10105/md_McLaren_F1_-_front_right_1_(Crown_Casino,_Victoria,_24_Mar_09) .jpg

http://www.horsepoweronline.com/wp-content/uploads/McLaren-F1-1995.jpg



You are right: they fit both ways, but this is not the right position.

It's the same for rear lights:

https://fa707ec5abab9620c91c-e087a9513984a31bae18dd7ef8b1f502.ssl.cf1.rackcdn.c om/4674865_for-sale--rare-mclaren-f1-gtr-longtail_d6154a6b_m.jpg?bg=71706Chttps://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/1/1a/McLaren_F1_GTR_95_P440_CPJ_Ritz_Rear.jpg/480px-McLaren_F1_GTR_95_P440_CPJ_Ritz_Rear.jpg

After 35 years building cars here in the uk it was generally accepted that the indicators were as near to the outside as practical but I also am sure nothing was ever put in stone to that effect as there is also a school of thought that the side lights or marker lights should be at the extremities. It's probably one of those things that is down to interpretation.
can anyone quote the regulations on this?
Just noted my Mercedes has the side lights inboard and indicators outboard.
My Lotus esprit had the indicators outboard and my jaguars all had the indicators outboard.

can anyone quote the regulations on this?



I found this on UK regulations for road vehicles lighting:
http://www.legislation.gov.uk/uksi/1989/1796/contents/made


SCHEDULE 2
PART I
Requirements relating to obligatory front position lamps and to optional front position lamps to the extent specified in part II

Position of the front position lamps:
(i)Where two front position lamps are required to be fitted–
_(A)Maximum distance from the side of the vehicle–
__(1)A motor vehicle first used on or after 1st April 1986: 400 mm
__(2)A trailer manufactured on or after 1st October 1985: 150 mm
__(3)Any other vehicle manufactured on or after 1st October 1985: 400 mm
__(4)A motor vehicle first used before 1st April 1986 and any other vehicle manufactured before 1st October 1985: 510 mm

_(B)Minimum separation distance between front position lamps: No requirement




SCHEDULE 7
PART I
Requirements relating to obligatory direction indicators and to optional direction indicators to the extent specified in part II

Position of the front direction indicators:
(i)Maximum distance from the side of the vehicle–
_(A)Any vehicle not covered by sub-paragraph (B): 400 mm

(ii)Minimum separation distance between indicators on opposite sides of a vehicle–
_(A)A motor vehicle (other than a solo motor bicycle or a motor bicycle combination or an invalid carriage having a maximum speed not exceeding 8 mph) first used on or after 1st April 1986, a trailer manufactured on or after 1st October 1985, a horse-drawn vehicle, a pedstrian-controlled vehicle and a vehicle drawn or propelled by hand: 500 mm or, if the overall width of the vehicle is less than 1400 mm, 400 mm



So I guess both ways of fitting the front lights are legal.

I had no doubts they were both legal just unclear on what is preferred or customary practice as there are arguments in favour of both points of view however from what I can see most vehicles seem to favour indicators on the outside, at least in the UK.
As I said possibly other countries are different.
Anyway seems we got way off track for this thread and I apologise.