Recap of the English F1 fleet - Take 2...

Oh I do like that.

#020 sitting all snug, off PH

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/LN0nVYVJ.jpg

More of #043 from Josh Morrewski

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/7480480948_fee77980b0_b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/7480480662_eda2a79d30_b.jpg

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/7480480406_f2b2b2a61e_b.jpg

So does this F1 have the #01R paint scheme without the HDF and livery? Sure looks like it to me.

Indeed it does. I wrote this in response to someone else's question on the car once based on stories relayed to me about the history of this car. Easiest just to copy it here.

Chassis #043 is a very unique F1 road car. It was originally built for Motokazu Sayama, who owned 'Ueno Clinic' in Japan. That was the title sponsor on the Le Mans winning F1 GTR in 1995. His business was a plastic surgery firm in Japan and it is humorous to note (perhaps TMI?) that one of their primary offerings was penile enlargements. -LOL

Anyway, the story goes that he leased GTR #01R from McLaren and McLaren made arrangements for Lanzante Motorsports to run the team for him. Mr Sayama's goal was to provide a drive at Le Mans for a Japanese driver named Masanori Sekiya, as a Japanese driver had never won Le Mans. With their victory that year he became the first.

McLaren had made an agreement with Mr Sayama that at the completion of the race, so long as GTR #01R did not win, he would be able to purchase this GTR. Of course what happened was exactly the opposite; the car won and McLaren was not willing to give up such an important piece of their history so instead of the GTR, Mr Sayama purchased road car #043 instead, probably at a reduced rate.

The road car is painted exactly like the GTR was - with almost black paint on top and a grey bottom section that cuts through the lower body panels from nose to tail. Interestingly this paint scheme for #01R (and subsequently #043) was chosen to match Mr Sayama's recent purchase of a Mercedes Benz 500SL - remember - this was 1994/1995.

This car has spent most of its life in Japan, very rarely being seen at all. A few months ago it left for the UK and is in the hands of a new owner who very much respects the unique history of the car and suggested to me he plans to keep it 'original'! :cool:

The few months ago I mentioned there would have been mid-2011.

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ER

I've asked the photographer of the 1st picture - I'll let you all know :)

Josh called it the RAC motor show, but that's giving me zilch for results? Do you know what he was referring to there?

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ER

A little google detective work and here it is:

http://www.royalautomobileclub.co.uk/Motoring/Midsummer-Drive-In

Apparently it won the award for best modern car :thumbsup:

http://www.royalautomobileclub.co.uk/assets/rac_website/content/images/550x550_mid1.gif

020 is awesome! where is that located?

Antarctica Patrick... :lol2:

What thread is this again? :p

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ER

Bit of a slur on our scorchingly hot summers I think...............................lol

I mean where exactly in the UK;-)

I've asked for rough locations on some of the UK cars in the past but it hasn't gotten far. I realize its not a huge place compared to somewhere like the USA but it would be nice to have a better picture of it.

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ER

Agree, and if it would be possible to view and photograph I of course will go for it;-)

some friends told me #046 is @ Le Mans Classic this week-end.
I was not able to see it leaving the event yesterday evening :(

Phil

Midsummer Drive-In was held here.

http://www.woodcotepgc.com/home

Woodcote Park Golf Club in Surrey, just south of London.

some friends told me #046 is @ Le Mans Classic this week-end.
I was not able to see it leaving the event yesterday evening :(

Phil

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/7526675164_72fcdb8968_b.jpg

It's incredible how gorgeous that Stradale is :licka:

Here's another, older, but pretty cool shot of the two together: http://cache.jalopnik.com/assets/images/12/2011/05/alfa_33_stradale_1.jpg

It even makes the F1 look big

:ylsuper:

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/846436304_DSC_0997kl_122_520lo.jpg

Older photo of #069 prior to the... nevermind, you get it. ;)

http://distilleryimage7.s3.amazonaws.com/9858fdecdb1f11e1985b1231381b49dd_7.jpg

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ER

I like this shot.

I thought the plate changed after the refit ???

Phil

It was R553 OGF with the HDF, and then DAR7H post-HDF and now has been seen with R553 OGF since then.

Keep up at the back ;)

#020 spotted. Pics at the link. Cheers.

http://www.autogespot.com/mclaren-f1/2012/08/13

Yes - those were taken by a friend of mine and posted here as well:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showthread.php?t=1080496

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ER

Any ideas what the red sticker is in the windscreen just above the front wheel in middle picture?

Any ideas what the red sticker is in the windscreen just above the front wheel in middle picture?
My guess is it is an access card to the paddock.

Anyone know where to see a f1 in london? any dealer or workshop? I read something about a street that, if you're lucky, you can see the "gtr harrods" or something like that, but not sure.

I've been a few times in England and I have never seen a live F1, only the LM3 in Paris but it was too fast to be my dream since childhood. thanks

What I would assume to be #043 out and about?

http://thumbsnap.com/s/S67YmvYn.jpg

Twyford, Berkshire apparently.

Courtesy of Benny Saltstein on PH.

On its way for Windsor ? The pic was taken on saturday ?

https://fbcdn-sphotos-g-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash4/2075_118864260526_1910_n.jpg

https://www.facebook.com/media/set/?set=a.118861170526.209402.569585526&type=3

McLaren Fireworks - Facebook album featuring shots of XP1 LM and #20R at the MTC during a celebration event, with fireworks and all. Probably New Year's, as that photo was uploaded on January 26th 2009. Pretty cool to see the McLaren boys hanging out and spending quality time with XP1 LM and #20R. :cool: Credits go to my friend Dave Fisher for the photos.

PS - Erik, please don't shoot me if this is once again old stuff that's been shared before. I did use the search function, and neither the direct link or the words 'McLaren Fireworks' turned up anything...

Excerpt from the McLaren P1 feature article in the November 2012 issue of Wheels Magazine Australia:-

Few people know that during the F1's development, with money extremely tight and the entire project in jeopardy, Beatle George Harrison paid for his F1 almost two years in advance, writing a cheque for 540,000 pounds (then $1.3m) to keep the program alive. "You buy my new records, don't you?" he asked his friend Gordon Murray. "Well, I want to buy your car."

#059 has just been sold, and here is an article on the seller and price - £3.5m :eek7:

Click for the story

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v245/hurstg01/th.jpg (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-2228148/McLaren-F1-Tom-Hartley-Jr-breaks-record-expensive-modern-supercar-sold.html?ito=feeds-newsxml)

Looks like it may be going abroad :( possibly the US

Didnt knew it was for sale there otherwise I might have tried to see it:-s

Looks like it may be going abroad :( possibly the US

I've heard over the weekend that it was coming here. Fairly confident in the source.

The article actually says the price exceeded £3.5M. :yikes:

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ER

Possibly Orlando bound

Possibly Orlando bound

Uh...as in Orlando, FL where I live?! LOL. I hope so...maybe the owner will bring it to the Celebration car show this year when I'm there.

Edit: And if it does for sure leave the UK, maybe you guys will pick up another F1 if LM2 was bought by Lewis. :)

Some cars struggle more than others to clear the EPA hurdles. I do hope it surfaces sooner than later. :)

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ER

Hello,

I can share today ;)

#012 was sold in UK but I don't know owner's name.

#15R was sold in UK too...

Phil

I think it is pretty easy to put the pieces together to determine #012's new owner.

If I am right it probably won't be long until everyone knows.

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ER

Today on Kidston's FB, at the MTC - click for larger versions.

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/p206x206/31620_456326214425290_36613719_n.jpg (http://img191.imageshack.us/i/31620456326214425290366.jpg/)

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/p206x206/302786_456326787758566_1165766767_n.jpg (http://img5.imageshack.us/i/28666745632678775856611.jpg/)

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-ash4/p206x206/430901_456326121091966_365193422_n.jpg (http://img820.imageshack.us/i/70377145632612109196636.jpg/)

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn1/p206x206/556786_456326687758576_37876875_n.jpg (http://img841.imageshack.us/i/70460445632668775857637.jpg/)

https://sphotos-a.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-snc7/p206x206/3466_456326854425226_1038117267_n.jpg (http://img72.imageshack.us/i/70512745632685442522610.jpg/)


Which ones?

Obviously #012 in the center.

The silver ones are much harder. The one missing major body parts is most likely #070. The other one seems like it could be #046, but the little 'GB' sticker is missing from the rear bumper.

Can you make those images clickable thumbnails? If not, I can do it. (Done)

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ER

Yes, larger pictures please.

Speaking of new owners. Did we ever find out who bought 059 or where it's located?

Simon Kidston did the job !

I think he shared what he can shared. All F1 he saw this day are not on the pics...

#070 could have been sold ?

Perhaps its the photo / lighting, but it doesn't look like #070's interior.....seat colour is too dark [unless its in for a re-fit?...]

Well if it is #070 then someone has put the original coilovers back onto the car. Just a guess though based on what can be seen.

LMP Cars did appear to have the car for sale as recent as July 2010 and I don't recall seeing it surface since then. Could have ended up anywhere.

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ER

Wonder where #15R will end up, hopefully the owner retains at least the full livery.

Keeping it race spec and actively tracking it would be nice too admittedly.

#15R ended up in very good - and somewhat obvious - hands. I've heard it will be sympathetically freshened up and will likely remain in race trim. Might resurface when the weather gets better.

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ER

http://www5d.biglobe.ne.jp/~hm-net/bms.html

I came across a picture of #043

I don't know if the British Motorsports show headline tripped you up, or if you simply put this here because #043 is now in the UK, but for the record in case anyone cares that show was held in Yokohama, Japan.

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ER

#15R ended up in very good - and somewhat obvious - hands. I've heard it will be sympathetically freshened up and will likely remain in race trim. Might resurface when the weather gets better.

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ER

Ok, how obvious are those hands? Any word on price?

Extremely obvious now - price has not been published, but it was a big number.

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=7017899&postcount=193

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ER

If it really has the 96' Le Mans livery, it's I think the most historic one to have there. Also the racespec condition is plus I think. I wonder what was the price tag, road legal GTR's sold around 1,6 million £ (readed this somewhere those times or then I remember wrong), so allways can wonder the price this case.
BUT more important is that the car is good knowing hands now, GULF Collection is defenitely the right place to be.

I can say that more was spent purchasing that GTR than was the average price for an F1 road car at the time (beginning of 2012).

A couple of other GTRs also changed hands for similar figures within weeks of 15Rs sale. It was the first time in history that I am aware of GTRs trading for more than road cars generally had. Each of the three GTRs were in the hands of longtime owners and have very good provenance which adds to the justification.

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ER

I can say that more was spent purchasing that GTR than was the average price for an F1 road car at the time (beginning of 2012).

A couple of other GTRs also changed hands for similar figures within weeks of 15Rs sale. It was the first time in history that I am aware of GTRs trading for more than road cars generally had. Each of the three GTRs were in the hands of longtime owners and have very good provenance which adds to the justification.

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ER

Very interesting.:eek: Can you tell us which GTR's changed hands these weeks? And is there any news about their new locations?

My personal opinion is that if GTR has a good long race history with Le Mans: the value can be anything.....

Phil mentioned one of them here:

http://www.automotiveforums.com/vbulletin/showpost.php?p=7013094&postcount=75

The new owner of #03R is Christian Glasel who of course also owns #21R.

The other one remains off the record for the time being.

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ER

OK, thanks for these. :)

Tom Hartley has shared one of Tim Scott's photos of #059 on his website.

http://i48.tinypic.com/242efqb.jpg

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ER

This one was sold recently?
Anything else updates than GTR/LM look and head lights?

ERIK:
Do you know is the #03R BPR GT or Le Mans West livery, and propably 96 season's livery is the year of that livery?

It's still in its 1995 BPR livery - with the gold wheels and #8 on the side :) pretty much how it looked at Silverstone :)

So basically like this photo from Antsphoto?

http://www.flickr.com/photos/antsphoto/5499449612/sizes/l/in/set-72157624932785964/