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Old 04-20-2003, 08:30 PM   #1
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:OFFICIAL: Old-Timers contest.

This contest is for anyone 20 years of age or older, a non-teen contest. By non teen, I mean it as someone who does not have ''teen" at the end of their age.

Here are rules and regulations.


1- Must be 20+ to enter.
2- Can enter one model, post as many pics as you want, but pick one picture you like the best to enter.
3- Models must not be prebuilt. You must choose a kit to build for this contest. 2 months is alot of time to buy one and make it.
4- When entering your model car, you must do these following things.
a) Take progress pictures of your model car with a news paper beside it signifying the date - this is done to prove that you are in fact, building a kit at that exact moment, and it's not a build up of a previous kit.
b) Ensure you have progress pictures. I expect at least 1 progress report per week, meaning you should have 6 or more progress reports to send.
5- When the due date is up for turning in your model, you must email me one picture that you find the best to judge your model by. If you want you can make a collage if you want. I do not care what size you send me the pictures, but they will be re-sized to 800x600.
6- There are no prizes as of yet, I don't know if anybody will want to donate something as a prize? Totally up to the people.

Voting.

Voting shall go as follows.
There will be 4 categories to enter your model in, and 5 places to finish in.
Category 1 - Street Cars; This implies to street legal models, cars that you could drive in real life, legally on the street.
Category 2 - Tuner/Track cars; This means that if you enter a car that is built to race the drag strip it will be entered into this category.
Category 3 - Rally Cars; any car that is entered which is destined to be a rally car, will be placed into this category for judging.
Category 4 - Race cars; F1, Indy, Nascar. Any entry that is sent that is for road/oval track racing, will be placed into this category.

Now, that leaves 4 spots for finishing. We have one left. Each winner of each category will face off with eachother to win Grand 1st place. i.e: The Big Mama Cahuna Winner.

Voting for the 4 categories will go for 2 weeks, the 4 finalists from the 4 categories will then be placed up for the Finals against one another, and voting for that will take one week to go out.

Please send progress reports to david@photo-chop.com .

voting will be done by Private messages. It will be posted AF-Wide, meaning every forum should be able to see the thread. In order to vote, you must be registered one week before the first round of voting occurs, this is to ensure nobody can create false/fake accounts and vote for their model of choice more than once - again, just another thing to keep this contest fair.

Any feedback, suggestions or complaints can be posted in this thread. I hope nobody minds the rules, and that we get alot of people entering! Keep in mind, this contest is automotive forums wide, meaning anybody can enter! As long as you are 20 years of age, or older.

Have fun and and I look forward to seeing your entries!
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Old 04-20-2003, 08:37 PM   #2
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I can donate as a prize an assortment of modeling necessities in a basket. Mainly: liquid mask, panel line pen, set of brushes, turn signal amber and taillight red.

Not much of a prize, but whoever gets it is likely to use it.
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Old 04-20-2003, 09:06 PM   #3
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Yeah, it sucks to be 19 right now.
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Old 04-20-2003, 09:21 PM   #4
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mentel, I think alot of people would appreciate if you went over and made things easier for people entering. I am sure there are other ways to date the pictures in the models. besdies having to buy a newspaper just to do so.

also, how do you go about entering?
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Old 04-20-2003, 10:17 PM   #5
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The newpaper thing is a bit off, as I don't get them also.
So what if my build only takes 7 days in total ? Do I have to take 6 week on the build?
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Old 04-20-2003, 10:32 PM   #6
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Depending on the due date................

............I might be able to feature the winner on the front page of my website ( http://www.geocities.com/jdmf_2003 ), just as long as it isn't on the same month as the other contest, because I already promised the other contest, unless I do two features.............which is possible.
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Old 04-20-2003, 10:33 PM   #7
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Quote:
Originally posted by Hiroboy
The newpaper thing is a bit off, as I don't get them also.
So what if my build only takes 7 days in total ? Do I have to take 6 week on the build?
Hiro, if u r confident of doing it in a week, then perhaps you can go about 3 ways:
1)Build it first then wait til last minute then submit
2)Build it first then submit and regret later cos someone else did something better?
3)Wait til the last week of the contests then build and submit.

I would choose option 3) but I would give myself a buffer period instead of a week though.

Just my pov.
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Old 04-20-2003, 11:06 PM   #8
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okay. well fine, have 19 year olds in this contest seeing as how the real 'teen' contest doesnt allow nineteen year olds, even though they are still technically a teenager.

Doesn't have to be a news paper, but it has to be something. I don't want any cheaters, I don't want any type of arguements or conflicts in this contest. So please make sure you have something to prove the date in which you are building your car.

If you finish it tomorrow and give me an entry, so be it - your problem, not mine. Once I have your entry thats it, it stays there until vote time.

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Old 04-21-2003, 12:16 AM   #9
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sounds good to me but it seems that the picture taking updates would limit the entrants to those that have immediate access to a digital camera. i have sporadic 'privileges' to a digital camera so i don't know how that's going to work out. any leniency on this? i personally think the honor system would work out.

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Old 04-21-2003, 01:02 AM   #10
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Nice idea ! I will enter, but I am quite against the dating thingy.

I think everyone is honest enough to do it right, no one will have to cheat, besides ,what difference does it make?

so if I get this right we HAVE to have 7 progress posts here on AF and we HAVE to chose one pic to enter contest ?

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Nice idea ! I will enter, but I am quite against the dating thingy.

I think everyone is honest enough to do it right, no one will have to cheat, besides ,what difference does it make?

so if I get this right we HAVE to have 7 progress posts here on AF and we HAVE to chose one pic to enter contest ?

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Thats what I think so too but this is my POV:

1. Progress report per week : You can submit and update your Project thread as many times as you want during a week.
When a week is up, you need to submit and update your project for the new week. So, 1 progress update per week is needed. Its up to us to update more if we want.

2. At the end of your project, you will have taken pics of the final result of the model that is taking part. Choose the 1 and only best pic of the model for submission, which you think is the best.

I suppose 1 pic isnt good enough? Or is this pic only for reference and thumbnail purpose?

Another matter is, it doesnt necessarily have to be daily newspaper.
In fact all you need to do is when you are taking pics, just insert a paper and scribble the actual date on it.
Say if I am doing a project now, as I am gonna take pics, I take a pc of paper, even a flip over calendar thats not being use and scribble today's date : 02/04/03 and have it stand next to my model.
The next day, new day new pics, scribble 03/04/03.

If you have a new session same day, then be sure to include that pc of paper or that calendar.
The best is a colourful paper thats not easy to edit.
This paper is your signature proof thru-out the whole competition.

The above provided we stay with the need to provide proof of our progressive build up.

Just a suggestion.
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Sounds like a good idea, can't wait.

The only concern I would have is the 2 month build time. I know many modellers would consider this plenty of time, but I'm sure that there must be other older builders like myself who find modelling time very limited due to other comitments, young kids, work etc, and it would be a shame to rush a project to finish in 8 weeks.

Would a slightly longer time be possible, maybe 10 or 12 weeks so that people like myself have a little more time without having to make compromises on detailing, painting etc and still stay in the missuses good books?

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Im in......sounds like a pretty good comp
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sound good... hope to finish my C-West Nissan 350Z for it..

what is the deadline ?
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Old 04-21-2003, 05:25 AM   #15
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Sounds good, i'm in on it! There's 2 things i'm not happy with to be honest.

First, the exclussion of 19 year olds. Screw the 'teen' technicality, they will miss out otherwise. But it seems you've changed your mind on this already so that's cool

Second, the progress report thing with newspapers is not such a good idea IMO. I see what you're getting at but i would just find this hassle! I would probably struggle to make a regimented progress thread coz i may not be working on it constantly. Personally i have several projects on the go and i'm really poor at remembering to take pics as i go, it may also be that the model will have more time spent on it towards the end as we get close to the deadline. I'm certain that some weeks i may have nothing to report on at all.

On a more general note, this rule isn't fair to those who don't have easy access to a camera. I have an idea that u all may feel is better! What your saying is that you would like everyone to start a new project for this contest and that your 'prove the date' rule is so that no one submits an already built model right!? Well how about everyone nominates their model to be entered now (next week or so), which can be still in its box or only just started. If so a pic could be required to show the nominated project along with 'proof of date' if necessary and a regularly progress report should be optional.

What do u think?
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