Questioning Rumors about the GTR?

[skylinegtr34]

Here are the rumors I am questioning:

1. The GTR will come to the U.S. in 2006 with 400hp.
400 hp will be pretty weak in 2006 almost every car coming out now has 300+hp so I imagine in 2006 every car will have somewhere around 400hp.

2. There will be a Turbo 350z.
If the n/a 350z is already near 300 hp so if the GTR will only be 400 hp. Why would Nissan release 2 sports cars with similar specs?

3. The GTR will be released as a Nissan.
I think the G35 answers that question Infiniti.

4. The GTR will not do well when released in the U.S.
Most GTR fans are probably about 17-23 right now. In 2006up they will have been out of college for a few years, they should be able to afford the cars by then.

5. The GTR will cost 90k when released.
Does anyone know about a car called the Tommy Karia ZZ2. Direct from Tommy Karia's site the car maybe released in the U.S. for the price of 90k USD.

[skylinegtr34]

Tommy Karia zz2 stats:

Drive Train: ATTESA E-TS Pro II
Engine Rb26dett 600+ hp
Weight: 1000kg
Mid engine

[igor@af]

You have good points, however, here are my opinions and things I have heard:

1. GT-R will probably come out in 2005 as a 2006 model, and it will probably have VQ35DETT with around 400-450hp.

2. There will definately not going to be a TT 350Z when the GT-R is out for the exact reason you've stated, however, we still have a few years to go, so I am crossing my fingers that NISMO will come out with a TT sometime.

3. I do think that GT-R will be released as a Nissan, just like the next Supra will be released as a Toyota and not Lexus. However, I guess you could counter that with NSX being an Acura and not Honda... I just for some reason am really confident that it will be Nissan. Another factor that would affect this is how each brand, Nissan and Infiniti, is viewed near the launch of the GT-R, they might put it into whichever one needs a 'boost.'

4. The GT-R will definately do well, there is no way Nissan is going to just slap up the next GT-R, which guarantees the fact that it will be an amazing machine with great technology.

5. The GT-R should cost around $55-60k here in the U.S. That is what I have heard many times and it also makes complete sense to sell it at this price range.

[flylwsi]

400 hp will be pretty weak in 2006 almost every car coming out now has 300+hp so I imagine in 2006 every car will have somewhere around 400hp.

what other cars exactly are we talking about?

the vette zo6, porsches... vipers, mustang cobra...

what else is there to compete with?

the viper's had 400 for 10 yrs, and just stepped up to 500.

the zo6 has 405, which is more than adequate.

the only porsches in the 400 range are the turbo with 415ish, and the gt2 with 460ish.

the mustang cobra makes 395 at the crank, though the dyno charts show 375 to the wheels...

so what else is there that is in competition?

and it's not like there's huge jumps in hp over a couple years... especially considering the cars mentioned are the top of the line for these manufacturers...

the gt-r will be a standalone style model, so it could have better models in the pipeline...

400 hp is more than enough to get ANYONE on this board in trouble, let alone anyone in the US.

[2of9]

i agree with igor, but the skyline will and mite have competition. bcuz, by that time the skyline somes out, there will be new breeds of Porches, Mustangs, and all the other super cars, the Rumored Supra too, so im thinin the GTR will have competition againt any other car

[Assasin11-17]

There definately be lots of competition out there in the states. It just comes down to how well the GTR is marketed to America. You and I know about the Skylines and probably would go out and buy a new one if we could afford it but to the average joe smoe they would probably waste their money on a mundane status symbol like a porshe or lambo. What we need is an affordable muscle car like back in the 60's and 70's. Maybe the GTR would give a good boost in that direction.(no pun intended)

[GTRsi]

My thoughts on the whole GTR issue
I believe that we will see a blown 350z, maybe not from the factory but certianly a TRD s/c. Just my thought but I have a gut feeling about this. My second comment is who really cares about vipers vettes and cobra's. the next cobra may or maynot have IRS. we have only seen concept drawings of the new c6 so its anyones guess as to when they will be out.

Anyone ever look at the price on a 911 turbo? Sorry I dont think nissian has to worry about porsche stealing sales . I beleive the only factor that can threaten US sales and/or ultimate production of a GTR is going to be the world economy. Face it, if they build a GTR and sell it for 5k and nobodies buying its a loose/loose sistuation.

BTW Nissian I have cash in hand when that car makes the trip to this side, the right side, of the pond!!!!!!!!!!!!!

jb

[sami]

Originally posted by GTRsi
I believe that we will see a blown 350z, maybe not from the factory but certianly a TRD s/c.

I can tell right here and right now that will never happen. NISMO maybe but certainly not TRD.

[Lordrandall]

Originally posted by GTRsi
My thoughts on the whole GTR issue
I believe that we will see a blown 350z, maybe not from the factory but certianly a TRD s/c.

Like Sami said, TRD will never make a 350Z SC because they tune Toyotas.

Stillen has a blower that is done/soon to be done.

Plus there are several turbo kits almost done.

[Supra650RSP]

The reply to the TRD comment has already been made.
Greddy has a Turbo kit out already
'03 Cobras have IRS (it pisses off a lot of Mustang guys)
The price of the New Skyline will indeed be high enough that they will have to compete with not only Porsches but Corvettes, Vipers, and the Mustang. The Mustang will probably be the cheapest of the bunch.
So they have to compete with not only those cars in price, but somehow they will have to sell the public on the idea that they can just flat, out-perform these American classics, otherwise, they may be doomed to failure here in the States, as much as you and I would hate to admit it.

[flylwsi]

My second comment is who really cares about vipers vettes and cobra's.

who?

nissan does.

that's direct competition for owner dollars.

you've got to come here and compete with those cars and prove you're better, not easy to do in a market that you're just getting into.

money talks

[BLU CIVIC]

i heard a rumor that i'd be able to afford a skyline when they hit the states

[skud99]

Originally posted by BLU CIVIC
i heard a rumor that i'd be able to afford a skyline when they hit the states

I guess that all depends on how much "BLING BLING" you make.

[skud99]

Originally posted by skylinegtr34
Here are the rumors I am questioning:

1. The GTR will come to the U.S. in 2006 with 400hp.
400 hp will be pretty weak in 2006 almost every car coming out now has 300+hp so I imagine in 2006 every car will have somewhere around 400hp.

2. There will be a Turbo 350z.
If the n/a 350z is already near 300 hp so if the GTR will only be 400 hp. Why would Nissan release 2 sports cars with similar specs?

3. The GTR will be released as a Nissan.
I think the G35 answers that question Infiniti.

4. The GTR will not do well when released in the U.S.
Most GTR fans are probably about 17-23 right now. In 2006up they will have been out of college for a few years, they should be able to afford the cars by then.

5. The GTR will cost 90k when released.
Does anyone know about a car called the Tommy Karia ZZ2. Direct from Tommy Karia's site the car maybe released in the U.S. for the price of 90k USD.

In reguard to rumor 3. "The GTR will be released as a Nissan."
and the answer: "I think the G35 answers that question Infiniti."
I read that the G35 Infinity is not the GT-R but just a regular Skyline. There is a major diffrence.

[2of9]

im mad bcuz, the Vette Z06 cost a good 45-55k dollars in the states. the Vette Z06 is pretty quick, close to skyline 1/4 range quick. Im not comparing the two, but the PRICE!? can some one tell why the Skyline GTR at moterex or other importer dealers sell the GTR for such a high price?