Something I have come up with

[Shortbus]

Ok folks, as everyone here is intitled to their opinion. What do you think of this.

Please note without talking to you person to person I could not possibly convey all of my emotions and detailed thoughts here about the US's stance on Iraq, terrorist, and all the other BS going on right now.

The general mood of this forum to me has been to bash the US and our leader George W. Bush. Okay fine.

But everyone seems to be baseing their opinions of America from the Information seen on TV, such places as CNN, ABC, ect ect.

The simple matter of it all is you that are anti US and anti war can you for sure say that you know better than the US who has spent untold of dollars and man hours to research and profile the situations going on that have led up to the conflict in IRAQ?

Have you personally monitored and skeptisized the information recieved from intelligence agencies that are not available to the public and expecially the f-in journalist. I think not.

The simple fact of the matter is that all news tv whomever they may be, will quickly jump to the best story going and whore it whether it is truth heresay or whatever.

For instance ALJazzera has stated that after the shock&awe bombing wave all the US and Britain managed to do was kill innocent ppl, do you really believe this? This is exactly the kind of headline that makes money and good protest of the conflict at hand and an attempt to steer favor of the US away from them and to Iraq.

Seems on the news today that we never hear much about the good things we have done. I won't get into an argument here, but the point I am trying to make is that most of the world formulates their opinion from the press and what they see on tv and read in newspapers. Hell they want everyone to clash over it because they will make more money selling the semi factful information to us.

The other point I wish to get across is that we should not allow the media to guide us in whether or not we should be for this or that, because they could give a shit less about what is really at stake here, they are just going to produce what is selling.

Would you rather buy a paper that says:
Massive Protest in US (1000's arrested and hundreds injured) and around the Globe over senseless war in Iraq.
or
would you buy the one that says:
Nations ban together for mass pro war demonstration.
Yes in small print and probably on the 10th page too.


All I am trying to say is that we as humans should give this a chance and then make our opinions, not because of what the tabloids are saying but because of the truth that will come out when this is over.

We let the media influence us to much and there is way to much specualtion out there in the media these days.

Sorry if this makes no sense(there is so much more I could say but, I rather dislike typing at the moment so I am stopping here). Like I said if I were speaking to you in person I could make it sound better, I suck at conveying my point by typing it out.

STFU if you don't like it :finger:

[Graphik Styles]

i've changed........im a bush supported but just to tell you................cnn basically gets all its info from the american government and they are a all american news station so i think its safe to belive that wat they tell us is basically all tru...............

[Shortbus]

Originally posted by De$i Gank$ta
i've changed........im a bush supported but just to tell you................cnn basically gets all its info from the american government and they are a all american news station so i think its safe to belive that wat they tell us is basically all tru...............

Yes I know about that but it is the things they can not tell us or do not know... the things they merely speculate on to be YOUR number one conflict coverage source.

[Toksin]

Isn't the general consensus that CNN is BS? ie biased almost to the point of propaganda? That's how I feel when I watch it.

[dolla_bill0913]

Saddam watches the same news the people see so some things are withheld in order to protect the troops. Other things are withheld for the simple fact they are so horrible, it may be hard for people to watch. If Bush didnt want news coverage, there wouldnt be any. This war has the highest media coverage then any war ever. Bush has nothing to hide, Saddam is the liar.

[1985_BMW318i]

Toksin despite my feelings on those opposed to war I do not display their flags upside down or at all. I may oppose a governments view but not the entire people

[Pick]

Originally posted by Toksin
Isn't the general consensus that CNN is BS? ie biased almost to the point of propaganda? That's how I feel when I watch it.

CNN is extremely left of center.

[Jetts]

Communist (spelling)
News
Network

cnn sucks ass

[igor@af]

Originally posted by John
But everyone seems to be baseing their opinions of America from the Information seen on TV, such places as CNN, ABC, ect ect.

The problem with this, John, is that CNN, MSNBC, ABC, etc. are all propaganda right now They are being great tools for the American gov't.

Let me give you an example -
All I've been hearing on TV is how many thousands of Iraqis are surrendering to US troops without a fight. Yet, the city of Basra next to Kuwait border has not yet been taken after 4 days of fighting (as far as I am aware.. situation might have changed very recently). We don't hear about that on the news, do we?
If you think that the news are broadcasting anti-war propaganda, you are terribly wrong, it is the exact opposite since the war was declared.

[TexasF355F1]

The best place to get news on the war is Fox News. Mainly b/c they are unbiased in reporting. ABC, NBC, CBS and CNN are all biased against Bush and try to report anything that they hope to hurt his support. And don't even bother watching MTV to get news, they don't know shit.

[Shortbus]

Originally posted by igor@af
If you think that the news are broadcasting anti-war propaganda, you are terribly wrong, it is the exact opposite since the war was declared.

I don't think that..

I just think there has been to much emphasis on the anti war rallys.

We are just going to half to set this one out until the end.

No amount of arguing between pro and anti war ppl will change what is done.

Peace

[Toksin]

Originally posted by 1985_BMW318i
Toksin despite my feelings on those opposed to war I do not display their flags upside down or at all. I may oppose a governments view but not the entire people

I oppose the government's view which is why I put the flag up there. I also have my feelings about American society as a whole (as I know it from research and also from a very good American friend of mine).

An inverted flag is a sign of distress. I am merely saying that freedom is at risk, however, feel free to interpret it however you want.

[GTi-VR6_A3]

Originally posted by TexasF355F1
The best place to get news on the war is Fox News. Mainly b/c they are unbiased in reporting. ABC, NBC, CBS and CNN are all biased against Bush and try to report anything that they hope to hurt his support. And don't even bother watching MTV to get news, they don't know shit.

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fox news ubiased is like saying iraqi tv is the straight shit no lying in it. fox is the offical conservative news channel lol

-GTi-VR6_A3

[Cbass]

With the exception of Igor, you're all very misinformed.

All major US media outlets are spewing propaganda. The Washington Post is almost honest, surprisingly. For the last 8 months, the US media has been stirring up sentiment against Iraq, I don't know how you can not see this.

Even the BBC is more honest about the current events, and they are owned by the British government, who are pushing for war as well.

[GTi-VR6_A3]

i resent that i know that i am not misinformed. all media is biased one way or another. people usually just watch what they like to hear. just as american media is biased al jazeera is doing the same shit. i hate media but i just watch it and take from it fact and leave most of the commentary alone. i still wihs there was a robot news source that stated only fact. i would watch that. too bad if it was ever started every country in the world would want it dead.

-GTi-VR6_A3