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03-20-2003, 09:17 AM
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How fast is a mid-80's Camaro RS?
Coz I had the opportunity to race one on the freeway last night. Ironic, considering this post by TV, and what I said in there.
Basically, I was cruising on the freeway on my way home from work, going about 75, when these headlights come rushing up to my back bumper. I slid aside and let him pass and also so I can pace him as he was going pretty fast. I did that for about a minute, and he cruised at about 85MPH. This is where I see the RS badge on his Camaro. I then notice that he's starting to pull away. So, I decided to give chase, just for the hell of it, since I just got pulleys installed and my power-steering belt removed for a few extra horsies. This would be my first freeway run since I had this done Sunday. Anyhow, I drop it to third and reel him in. We see a car ahead in the lane we were in, he takes the lane to the left of the car, I take the right. Right where third gear tops-off at about 100MPH, I glanced and see him just about even with my car two lanes over. Speedshift to fourth pulls me about halfway up his car. Since we passed the car we went around in and everything was clear, I changed lanes again, and took fourth gear all the way to redline, which brought me about 2 cars in front of him. At this point, at about 130MPH, I knew I couldn't go any faster because of redline (fifth gear accelerates slower, and has a lower speed, because of the governor at 127MPH, so there's no point in shifting up), so I tapped my brakes to signal the end of the race, and slowed down. Camaro keeps going, and flashes his hazards, which pisses me off to no end, because I KNOW he saw me tap my brakes. We hit some traffic afterwards, so both cruise at about 75. At this point, I am mad, and I want to prove a point. I know he probably doesn't have a governor like I do, so he has potentially more top-speed, but I know the speeds that were common to us (up to 130), I can reach faster. As soon as we clear traffic, I pass him flooring third, even though I heard him gun it at just about the same time (he was in front of me). At the top of fourth, I was about 3 cars ahead of him this time, with traffic approaching, so I flashed my hazards, in view of a few cars we passed. It was obvious to anybody that saw (none of which were cops, thank God) who was in the lead, and why the leader was flashing his hazards. I slowed down then and kept up with traffic, with him behind me. Another clearing was looming in front of us (we were cruising 75-80, everybody else was doing 65-70), and I knew he'd go for it as soon as we hit the clearing. This time I let him get next to me, which is where I dropped it to third, with the same above results, except he was only about 2 cars behind me. So, back to my questions. How fast are those 80's RS Camaros? I know they had V8's, but was it a 305 or 350? What was their stock 1/4s? I tried car-stats.com, but they didn't have a specific listing for the RS, and I didn't want misleading info. I am just curious as to what level cars I should be running against. I know those cars I posted beating in my last thread were between low 16 to low 17 second cars stock...well within my range. I just wanted to know about the RS. Thanks.
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03-20-2003, 09:29 AM
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wow your 3rd hits 100mph? thats some tall ass gears you got. anyways good kill. RS's are really that slow man? that sucks. i know that a Z28 at that time can run a 15 flat. but i wish my car can hit 130. my car's governor kicks in at 120. if me and you did race, you would've beaten me becasue you can hit a faster speed then me
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03-20-2003, 09:35 AM
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Rally Sports are typically 305 V8 5-speeds. Low hp and mediocre torque, Mustang 5.0L's ate them up. 350's though, again low hp 220-240 hp, much better torque, 330-340 lbs, automatic only though.
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03-20-2003, 09:40 AM
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03-21-2003, 05:54 AM
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So, seriously, how fast are those RSs supposed to be? Like in the quarter, top-speed, stuff like that. I know how fast the "regular" Camaros are supposed to be with 305's, but I haven't found stats pertaining specifically to the RS.
Lemme know.
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03-21-2003, 02:22 PM
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in the 80's the RS was just an apperance package... nothing special... It's just a 305 with either a 5spd or Auto... From the sound of it he was probably a 5spd.
what year do guess it was?
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03-21-2003, 07:27 PM
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could've been a V6
As Red mentioned, RS was an appearance package during the late '80s, early 90's. RS trim debuted in 1989 (prior to its debut, LT and Berlinetta trims were available).
here's the available powertrains for 3rd gen RSs: Yr_Modl_Tran_Eng__CR___Disp.______HP______Torque__ _Ind._Rr. Axl. Ratio (M A) 87 RS* M5,A4 LB8 V6 8.9:1 2.8 (173) 135@4900 160@3900 MFI 3.42 ---- 3.42 ---- 89 RS M5,A4 LB8 V6 8.9:1 2.8 (173) 135@4900 160@3900 MFI 3.42 ---- 3.42 ---- 90 RS M5,A4 LH0 V6 8.5:1 3.1 (191) 140@4400 180@3600 MFI 3.42 ---- 3.23 ---- 91 RS M5,A4 LH0 V6 8.5:1 3.1 (191) 140@4400 180@3600 MFI 3.42 ---- 3.23 ---- 92 RS M5,A4 LH0 V6 8.5:1 3.1 (191) 140@4400 185@3600 MFI 3.42 ---- 3.23 ---- 89 RS M5,A4 LO3 V8 9.3:1 5.0 (305) 170@4400 255@2400 TBI 3.08 ---- 2.73 ---- 90 RS M5,A4 LO3 V8 9.3:1 5.0 (305) 170@4000 255@2400 TBI 3.08 ---- 2.73 ---- 91 RS M5,A4 LO3 V8 9.3:1 5.0 (305) 170@4000 255@2400 TBI 3.08 ---- 2.73 ---- 92 RS M5,A4 LO3 V8 9.3:1 5.0 (305) 170@4000 255@2400 TBI 3.08 ---- 2.73 ---- *RS available in only California
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03-22-2003, 12:40 PM
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actually I raced a beat 80's Trans Am *the turbo one*
Redneck will speek if anyone on it, he knows the GM's well...yesss....
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03-23-2003, 05:39 PM
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TV, you raced a TTA???
 Did you ask the guy to give it to me??? 
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#10
03-24-2003, 03:59 PM
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yeah, the RS of those years is just a regular camaro with a body kit. stock, they're not fast. i think they had something like 190hp?
edit: hmm, guess i should have read danno_SS's reply 1st  make that 170hp.
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03-24-2003, 04:21 PM
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Carnutt, in a way I understand your thinking about since you got to 130 before the Camaro, you really won the race, however think of it this way. If you had raced a car with gearing that topped out at 80-90mph with the same power roughly your car has, if he got to 80 a ways before you did, would you consider that a loss? or the fact that 2 seconds later you passed him and were still accelerating, because that car could just as easily get to 80mph very fastly and brake trying to signal the end of the race before your car has the opportunity to take advantage of its gearing.
It really is a matter of situation really, if you are at a drag strip, obviously if you top out at 80mph, it wouldnt matter but your 1/4mile time may be slower then a car that is geared for 110. When I am racing somebody, I usually don't count the race over until one of us brakes, or it is very obvious that there is a big power difference between the 2 of us.
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......or if your a loser who drives a Civic with a type R sticker, racing stripes, blasting really bad rap music through your suburban area with your pretentious "I’m 21 but I’m still in high school girlfriend" while driving with your hand up on the top of the steering wheel exposing your underdeveloped pasty white vitamin deficient arm and wearing your backwards BS upside down visor hat while feeling the tacky as a "Florida vacation" single diamond earring in your ear, If you are this person...with any luck the sun in its precise celestial positioning as you putter on by...will reflect its scorching rays into your earring, bouncing intensely in your rearview, and finally making contact with your eyes through the thin cheap lense of $5 gas station Oakley rip off glasses.. then burning your retnal cones into smoldering melting gobs of ocular material as you are blinded by the purest form of energy in our known universe, and as you scream no one can help or hear you because they don’t know what’s going on since the weed whacker sound of your shitty tiny little muffler which makes the Civic sound like a 747 rages on underneath making everyone turn at disgust and comment to thier husbands or wives how much of a dickweed you are by attaching that automotive abnormality to your stock economical daily driver engineered by Japanese Automotive specialists to fit the needs for entry level business workers in their early 30's, however your pathetic looking $11,000 car which you want to look like a friggin spaceship with redundant ground effects is now out of control since you are blinded, and as your car plunges off the side of a cliff while you scream in the purest form of terror while knowing you have lived a horrid excuse for a life, by doing the bare minimum in every facet of existence, while getting fired from one pathetic job to another, the majority of your time spent slacking smoking dope, getting kicked out of school, polishing your "game" on sweet innocent underage girls you eventually 'de flower' through exhaustive yet succesful attempts to get the date rapist drugs you have stashed in the glove compartment, into your poor victims drinks while offering them to take the "Pepsi Challenge" while making your mother hate you, and your poor father who wishes he had a daughter instead of your pathetic ass, since a girl would be more of a man than you ever were, like the occasion when you were hit in the arm by a wild pitch in little league, then you cried like a fat kid who dropped his ice cream cone, I'm already envisioning you impacting the rocks below, in a spectacular fireball ignited from the residue hairspray from your girlfriend plastered in the fabric passenger seat, blinded by your earring, deafened by the loud "Bling Blingin", and I will smile and roll around on the ground in orgasmic delight while you are consumed by flames whose intense heat and fury will liquefy your bone marrow that I will use to make jelly beans out of and eat them happily at your funeral as midgets dressed like Alex 6005321 from "A Clockwork Orange" dance around your coffin to loud industrial style techno music and strobe lights, and I will sleep soundly at night knowing another successful conquest of Darwinism has been attained. |
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03-25-2003, 06:01 AM
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Also, I am pretty sure it was a V8. It sounded like one (whatever I heard over my screaming exhaust, anyways). Also, I beat a 305-equipped one from a stop by about 2-3 cars before I got my headers and a few other things I got. Just didn't know what the 80's RSs had. P.S. We never really tested my theory about top-speeds. Besides the one where he did an RFB (Ricer Fly-By) on me, where he could've been going 125 for all I know. I slowed down to about 90-100. This was automatic when I tapped my brakes. Any other time, we had traffic coming up, so we had to slow down.
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03-25-2003, 12:46 PM
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Ah, gotcha. Definite win then.
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......or if your a loser who drives a Civic with a type R sticker, racing stripes, blasting really bad rap music through your suburban area with your pretentious "I’m 21 but I’m still in high school girlfriend" while driving with your hand up on the top of the steering wheel exposing your underdeveloped pasty white vitamin deficient arm and wearing your backwards BS upside down visor hat while feeling the tacky as a "Florida vacation" single diamond earring in your ear, If you are this person...with any luck the sun in its precise celestial positioning as you putter on by...will reflect its scorching rays into your earring, bouncing intensely in your rearview, and finally making contact with your eyes through the thin cheap lense of $5 gas station Oakley rip off glasses.. then burning your retnal cones into smoldering melting gobs of ocular material as you are blinded by the purest form of energy in our known universe, and as you scream no one can help or hear you because they don’t know what’s going on since the weed whacker sound of your shitty tiny little muffler which makes the Civic sound like a 747 rages on underneath making everyone turn at disgust and comment to thier husbands or wives how much of a dickweed you are by attaching that automotive abnormality to your stock economical daily driver engineered by Japanese Automotive specialists to fit the needs for entry level business workers in their early 30's, however your pathetic looking $11,000 car which you want to look like a friggin spaceship with redundant ground effects is now out of control since you are blinded, and as your car plunges off the side of a cliff while you scream in the purest form of terror while knowing you have lived a horrid excuse for a life, by doing the bare minimum in every facet of existence, while getting fired from one pathetic job to another, the majority of your time spent slacking smoking dope, getting kicked out of school, polishing your "game" on sweet innocent underage girls you eventually 'de flower' through exhaustive yet succesful attempts to get the date rapist drugs you have stashed in the glove compartment, into your poor victims drinks while offering them to take the "Pepsi Challenge" while making your mother hate you, and your poor father who wishes he had a daughter instead of your pathetic ass, since a girl would be more of a man than you ever were, like the occasion when you were hit in the arm by a wild pitch in little league, then you cried like a fat kid who dropped his ice cream cone, I'm already envisioning you impacting the rocks below, in a spectacular fireball ignited from the residue hairspray from your girlfriend plastered in the fabric passenger seat, blinded by your earring, deafened by the loud "Bling Blingin", and I will smile and roll around on the ground in orgasmic delight while you are consumed by flames whose intense heat and fury will liquefy your bone marrow that I will use to make jelly beans out of and eat them happily at your funeral as midgets dressed like Alex 6005321 from "A Clockwork Orange" dance around your coffin to loud industrial style techno music and strobe lights, and I will sleep soundly at night knowing another successful conquest of Darwinism has been attained. |
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03-26-2003, 09:14 PM
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03-26-2003, 09:28 PM
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When I purchased it new, my 1989 Camaro RS 305 TBI, 5-speed ran a best 16.7 in the quarter at 88 mph - wooo-hooo!!:o
It was slow then and I'd imagine, based on the ones I see around here, that 10+ years of squirrelly drivers, numerous owners, and poor maintenance would make them even slower today.... I sold a 1980 Camaro with around 320hp to buy my RS and really was disgusted by it's lack of guts. That's when the 14-years of fun began, it has much more now... 
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