Manuel vs. Auto

[s7v7n]

In your mind, if you get an auto tranny, then are you a phag? I mean really...what's soooo wrong with an auto? I see for racing it might not be as GOOD, but can you give me some subtle hints why?

Try this for the Mustang GT '02

[5.0VIPERMAN]

Personally, I prefer manual. There are a lot of reasons for this. One is just the cost. Automatics are more expensive to buy and more expensive to fix. They're not built as strong as a manual. Fords automatics are also infamous for having problems. I think manuals are just plain more fun to drive (except for in bumper to bumper traffic jams).

[SkylineUSA]

If you have a car that does a 10 sec 1/4 or better, an auto is the way to go.

Now for road course racing manual is the way to go.

If you have a girlfriend, I would want an auto

So Autos are not gay, but your better know how to drive a manual

[miker]

My daily driver has a six speed and I love it, except for when I'm sitting in traffic. My weekend car has a C4 automatic and it's deadly when it comes to the stop light wars and it has that instant kick down which catches people off guard.

Automatics are good for bracket racing because they offer consistancy. Manuals are good for real drivers who like to take a car to it's limits or anybody who does open track / autocross racing.

[CobraMan]

Automatics are actually really good for racing,but i rather have a manual when it comes to a girlfriend..if she dont know how to use it..she cant touch it..

[blacksnake98]

Originally posted by CobraMan
Automatics are actually really good for racing,but i rather have a manual when it comes to a girlfriend..if she dont know how to use it..she cant touch it..

Amen to that...

[Baonus]

I've loved my standards and still do.

Power: More engine power hits the ground. (period)
--No fluid-powered clutches caught and released using up HP/TQ, just straight up human foot-lbs. used.

Control: Make your point.
--Don't worry about shift points whether mech. set or computer, just make them up as you go. It depends on the traffic, the engine temp, air temp, fuel your on, corner your in, etc. Even computers can't shift like an Andretti.

It's a guy thing: *grunt*
--I gotta agree: It's better if the girl just watches in awe as you drive. (If she can pull her head off the seat)

[Blackbird01]

Originally posted by Baonus
Even computers can't shift like an Andretti.

Yeah, you're right. Computers shift faster.
No human can shift faster then a computer.
The problem with automatics is chosing the right torque converter for your application and having your shift points adjusted properly.

For drag racing, auto is king.
For auto crossing, manual rules.

[HiFlow5 0]

Personally I love my auto, granted a stick is more fun to drive! I still love the disadvantage, the look on someone's face when I win a race and then tell them I have an auto is priceless! Although I often wonder how much faster my car would be if it were a stick?

I wouldn't go as far as saying AOD's are week, no worse then a stock T5 which have their problems too. AOD's can be built up for pretty cheap too, if done before they totally grenade. A good stall converter is mandatory. A manual valve body, Lentech makes a great one with an OD lockout, that will firm up shifts far better then any shiftkit. A solid one piece input shaft will greatly strengthen that area, cause of less moving parts of the stock 3 piece shaft. Then a trans cooler for added protection, and a remote filter to clear debris isn't a bad idea.

[carnut]

4 speed top loader, straight in line driving or cornering! Adjustable shift points for different conditions!

[-FROG-]

Originally posted by Blackbird01




For drag racing, auto is king.
For auto crossing, manual rules.

Yep, I have a C4 in my stang as well as some of the other guys on here. I said a C4........ not an AOD. There is a difference in the kind of automatics. If you were asking about a stock automatic compared to a stock manuel, then the manuel is usually the way to go(faster), BUT BEWARE of a FULL RACE Automatic with a high stall, racing bands and clutches and especailly a TRANS BRAKE!!!! You are in for a treat there.

[TerminalVelocity]

what is a trans brake? I feel I should know this and such, but....

Auto isnt as fun, but can defentally make racing better, I always want to shift though and fell like I could be doing more. Hope this goes away when I get my shift kit...

[-FROG-]

First of all, My C4 has a manuel valve body, meaning, I have to manually shift from 1st to 2nd to 3rd (only a 3 speed). The Trans Brake is a device in your transmission that locks the tranny up at a stand still in 1st gear while you rev your motor to your stall speed. I have a 3,000-3,500 10" stall converter in my C4.

When I line up to race, I hold a tiny red button on my shifter, labeled, "Trans Brake". This allows me to rev my motor up to 3,000RPM's without holding the brake pedal(the car won't roll while the trans brake is enguaged). when the light turns green, I release the red button and BOOM!!! I get a broken neck and the car launches HARD at 3,000RPM's instead of the 2,000RPM's like using your foot brake. Other cars have higher stalls and launch at even a higher RPM range.

[Spyk]

Alot f people don't know how to build a tq.. the stall should be at the rpm were your arein mid ramp to peak torque you must chooose a prper str.. you wat lock up stall so thereis no slipage after 1rst.. ,, you want a shiftkit so you can enjoy manualy shifting and iits more positive than a clutch and proper gearng..

who say auto crossing belongs to the manual with the prper set up it dead even.. dragging its all auto.. and if winning isn't fun, not missing gears isn't fun , bogging or blowing offf the tires isn't fun then stick to you human erord manuals.. all fast dragger and amny auto scca car now use auto its superio.. and nohuan can outshift a computer with a shiftkit not even Mario

i laugh all three of my Gm s are auto's and people say aww its an auto too bad.. i say too bad for you .. i hit 1.5x in my Ws6 in the 60' everytim. everytime, i laugh at awd cars... they have no chance

[94svt5.0]

Its usually frowned on to bring a thread back, that the last post was 9 months prior.