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Old 03-14-2002, 10:32 PM
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turbocharger question

im looking at upgrading my GS to a GST what i need to know is what turbo would be best? which would give me the most horsepower and how much would it give. and which is better the higher numbers or the lower numbers. for example T25 or T3 which is the better turbo???
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Old 03-17-2002, 08:19 PM
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why are people in the eclipse forum so unhelpful??? in the honda forum i would get answers 10 mins after i posted it. someone knows the answer why cant you guys just answer it to hlep me out
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Old 03-18-2002, 01:44 AM
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better off selling ur gs and buying a gs-t or gs-x...if u were gonna convert to turbo the t3 would be the way to go..the t25 is still too small for even the stock motor at the 7,000+ rpm redline
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Old 03-18-2002, 11:32 AM
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Well the thing is with the GS-T's and the GSX's i've only found that are around $20,000. I got the GS for $13,700. and the turbos are like $2,000 average which is still cheaper than buying the GS-T or GSX. so in a way its a better deal. Im most likely going with the T3 but how much horsepower does that give ya? i was reading around 300 for the stage one of it. is that on top of the 140 the GS's have or is that just a misread by me???
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To convert the car to a turbo and get the kind of horsepower you want, its not only going to involve slapping on a turbo. I don't know what part of the country you are in, but you can find plenty of GST/X for $15,000 and below. Just do a search on auto trader. Hate to say it, but you probably should've saved the money you spent on the GS and bought a cheaper car until you could afford the GST/X. And if you want to get responses, go to dsmtalk.com . But do a search first and read all the FAQ's before you start asking questions.
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why are people in the eclipse forum so unhelpful??? in the honda forum i would get answers 10 mins after i posted it. someone knows the answer why cant you guys just answer it to hlep me out
because we take pride in great customer service in the honda forum
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Old 03-20-2002, 07:20 PM
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because we take pride in great customer service in the honda forum
because almost all of the members in the honda forum came from PH
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Old 03-21-2002, 01:42 AM
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what year gs-t and gs-x's were you looking at? and are you referring to canadian money?
find a first gen gs-t or gs-x... more can be done for much cheaper..they night not look as good, but fast and sronger speaks out well over looks...and one can be had for well under $4,000 u.s.
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Old 03-21-2002, 08:38 PM
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its in US money. it doesnt matter. i got the GS ill upgrade it to a GS-T later on. but i cant find any like starter turbo's actually. there all upgraded turbo kits.
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Old 03-21-2002, 09:03 PM
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its in US money. it doesnt matter. i got the GS ill upgrade it to a GS-T later on. but i cant find any like starter turbo's actually. there all upgraded turbo kits.
I seen Greedy turbos for GSs
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Old 03-21-2002, 09:07 PM
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yeah i just found one on asylumms.com but its not on the greddy website for some reason and it doesnt give any info about the kit. Like what it comes with or anything. What would i need extra to have all the parts for the kit??? would i need a new exhaust piping?? and how much extra horsepower does the greddy give ya???
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Old 03-25-2002, 12:17 PM
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Listen to this...

Listen, all those freaks telling you to buy a new car have no idea what they are talking about, for that difference in price, you could add a stage 5 turbo from http://www.hahnracecraft.com and push 475 HP...

Thats right, and oh, the RS or GS is over 400 lbs lighter than the GSX... factor that into your power to weight ratio....
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Old 03-26-2002, 01:22 AM
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power to weight to prodigious amounts of tiresmoke morelike. 400 pounds is not a big difference because u can make it hook, rather easily in fact. i'll take a 300 hp Gs-x over a 400hp gs-t or rs . and while ur smoking and torque steering all overhte place i'll be at the end of the track laughing my head off. AND i'll do it for cheaper too.
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Old 03-26-2002, 10:45 AM
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Shame on you

Whoa there man, lets sit back and look at this... Your saying that your going to buy a GSX which is about 3k to 4k more, then replace everything and do this cheaper?

That's not even the ludicris part. You would rather have a much worse power:weight... So you would rather take a honda civic down the track against an 850HP 454 w/ blower monster because the monster will just spin its tires....

Whats the matter with you?!

Here's an idea, learn how to drive to correct that problem, and while you run your low 13s, I'll smoke you with mid 11s, EVERYTIME....

See you at the track in my rearview mirror...
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Old 03-26-2002, 11:00 AM
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Exclamation You people are morons.

Listen up!

What you did is very smart. First, you saved several grand on the car itself. Second, you're enjoying low insurance rates. Third, the 420A motor is one hell of a motor - perfectly balanced, mahl valves (which is better than stainless steel), an already knife-edged crankshaft, a proven bulletproof tranny that can handle 450+ HP. You also are 400 lbs. lighter than a GSX and don't have to worry about breaking LSD's and that crappy AWD tranny. With a pair of DOT slicks and a motor mount upgrade you can eliminate wheel-hop and secure your traction. Hahn Racecraft has done extensive research in this area and I have worked closely with them over the years to find out exactly what can be done. They are the experts, got check them out at efilson's posted link.

Now, say you spent a few thousand more on a GSX. Your insurance costs more. You rip all the turbo stuff out and replace it anyway which costs you thousands more. You're also carrying more weight on the track which can translate into nearly .4 seconds added to your 1/4 mile ET. Not to mention, you have to worry about walking crankshafts and the like that have plagued the 4G63 engine for years.

Take a look at some of the worlds fastest hondas... Guess what, they're all FWD. If these guys are pushing 10's when all they're doing is burning tires, I'd like to know what the hell you're talking about Crackerman

Anyhow, in relation to your first post, T25 is smaller than the T3. I wouldn't waste my time with garret turbos though, mitsubishi turbos are far superior. I'd recommend a 16G Mitsu for up to 350HP or a 20G Mitsu for anything above that.

Like I said, check out HRC. They have everything you'd ever want to know on their site, and the staff is very helpful if you should need to email them questions.

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