The New Skyline GT-R motor

[iLuBSkylines]

ok i heard from a reliable friend that the new gt-r will use the nissan titan engine...a supercharged v8, can anyone verify?

[flylwsi]

no.
most likely, it'll be using a TT version of the vq motor...
do a search through this forum, the US forum, etc. and you'll find quite a few threads about this...

no one has solid info yet. the latest info is that the cars will be here late 2007... not much else.

[RazorGTR]

Originally Posted by iLuBSkylines

ok i heard from a reliable friend that the new gt-r will use the nissan titan engine...a supercharged v8, can anyone verify?

Your "friend" isn't very reliable. The car hasn't been produced yet and only Nissan know the specs of the car.

[gtr_lover]

Originally Posted by RazorGTR

...only Nissan know the specs of the car.

Not true, Ive spoken to some people(no name mentioning) on it and they've shown me more pics on the design than whats available online.

[VQuick]

Originally Posted by iLuBSkylines

ok i heard from a reliable friend that the new gt-r will use the nissan titan engine...a supercharged v8, can anyone verify?

It's pretty much guaranteed that there won't be a V8, at least for the Japanese market. There'll be a twin turbo VQ with a displacement of at least 3-liters, possibly with electronic assistance for the turbos.

The only chance for a V8 would possibly be for the US market. Even then, it wouldn't be the Titan's VK56 'Endurance' motor. The smaller VK45 V8 is already too undersquare to be a really sporting motor. It does not rev very much, and the power peak of 340hp arrives at only 6400rpm. The bigger version used in the Titan is even "worse" in that respect, and would not be a good match for the GT-R.

[flylwsi]

Originally Posted by gtr_lover

Not true, Ive spoken to some people(no name mentioning) on it and they've shown me more pics on the design than whats available online.

well...
if you're not going to mention who/where these people are, what's our reason for believing you?

[gtr_lover]

I have no reason for you to believe me, all I can say is your choice as to whether you'll belive me on what I say or not; I can only rely on what peeps say. I also might state the obvious, that my life revolves around gtr's and that if you ask SkylineUsa who my bro is hell give you a shocker. Heck, you might find pics of his car spread all over the net.

[RazorGTR]

Anything is possible but according to Signal and Top Secret nothing has been set or released as of last month. Things can change and I'm sure I'll find out in two weeks when my mate gets back from his monthly trip to Japan. He frequents both houses while there buying cars for his car yard.

Believe me if I hear of anything written in stone you guys would be the second to know.

[RazorGTR]

One thing is for sure and that is Nissan and Nismo have been testing the VQ35TT motor in the JGTC the last year and half. Last season that combination in an R34 shell won the GT500 so I would mark that as a definate possibility. Since it is also an alloy block it will make a big difference in the overall balance of the car for sure.

[Moppie]

The big heavy RB engines have been nissans biggest obstcale to over come when tuning the skylines. Imagine what the existing GTR models would have been like to drive with 100kg less over the front axle.

You can be assured Nissan is aware of the effects of weight on a performance car, and that what ever engine they use, how much it weighs will be a major factor in the choice.


gtr_lover there are lots people out there who like to think they know someone special who knows information no one else does. Unforunatly 99.9% of them are spouting BullShit.
I personaly know someone who regulary talks with and emails a member of Nissans North American Design team. He's told me all sorts of interesting things about appreant new Nissan models, including the GTR. But it has all turned out to be BS.

[VQuick]

Originally Posted by RazorGTR

One thing is for sure and that is Nissan and Nismo have been testing the VQ35TT motor in the JGTC the last year and half. Last season that combination in an R34 shell won the GT500 so I would mark that as a definate possibility. Since it is also an alloy block it will make a big difference in the overall balance of the car for sure.

The drivers loved the VQ-powered R34s. The Driver's Championship was won in one of them, too. Turn-in was much better with the VQ setup, and the shorter engine length pretty much made the R34 a 'front mid-engined' car. It also saved a good 200lbs or so, too.

Originally Posted by Moppie

The big heavy RB engines have been nissans biggest obstcale to over come when tuning the skylines. Imagine what the existing GTR models would have been like to drive with 100kg less over the front axle.

They would have been fantastic, especially now that the VQ's powerholding capability has started to come into light. The VQ made its production debut in 1995(at least in the US, possibly earlier in JP), so Nissan probably could have used it in the R33 and R34. A mechanic found that the VQ is actually built stronger than Toyota's 2JZ, despite being aluminum block.

Originally Posted by Moppie

You can be assured Nissan is aware of the effects of weight on a performance car, and that what ever engine they use, how much it weighs will be a major factor in the choice.

And that's probably why we won't see a VK-series V8 in the GT-R(at least the JP market version), even though it still weighs less than an RB.

[deadmaninc]

Originally Posted by VQuick

They would have been fantastic, especially now that the VQ's powerholding capability has started to come into light. The VQ made its production debut in 1995(at least in the US, possibly earlier in JP), so Nissan probably could have used it in the R33 and R34. A mechanic found that the VQ is actually built stronger than Toyota's 2JZ, despite being aluminum block.

And that's probably why we won't see a VK-series V8 in the GT-R(at least the JP market version), even though it still weighs less than an RB.

Didn't the VQ first come out in 94? Well the VK45 is sports engine but its designed for a larger sporty auto and sporty suv(FX45). I do not know if it work well enough in Skyline but there is a 240Z making around 700hp out of a SC'ed VK45 motor. here The rumour I have been hearing on Infiniti sites from people who work in high place at Nissan/Infiniti is that the next Skyline GT-R that suppose to come to America is going to same as the Japanese counter part except it will meet US standards and come under the Infiniti name. But that could be wrong.

[gtr_lover]

Originally Posted by Moppie

gtr_lover there are lots people out there who like to think they know someone special who knows information no one else does. Unforunatly 99.9% of them are spouting BullShit.
I personaly know someone who regulary talks with and emails a member of Nissans North American Design team. He's told me all sorts of interesting things about appreant new Nissan models, including the GTR. But it has all turned out to be BS.

what a shame youve encountered bullshitters but on the contrary I am not nor do I know any bullshiter's. Moppie what I deal with day in and out is just gtr's.
I thought you could do a search for sumo r24 on google and get surprising info--guess I was wrong.

[VQuick]

Originally Posted by deadmaninc

Didn't the VQ first come out in 94?

It might have been '94 as a '95 model. The 1994 Maxima was the last of the 3rd generation, and used the VE30DE that was introduced back in 1991. The 4th gen Maxima started in '95 and used the VQ30DE.

Well the VK45 is sports engine but its designed for a larger sporty auto and sporty suv(FX45). I do not know if it work well enough in Skyline but there is a 240Z making around 700hp out of a SC'ed VK45 motor.

The VK would be a good choice for a GT-R motor, but not in the current 4.5L or 5.6L configurations. More revs would probably be needed. I was also wrong earlier: Both VKs are apparently oversquare, but not by much. They still don't rev much, either. If the VK was destroked to around 4L or so, it could have a sportier character more appropriate for a GT-R.

The rumour I have been hearing on Infiniti sites from people who work in high place at Nissan/Infiniti is that the next Skyline GT-R that suppose to come to America is going to same as the Japanese counter part except it will meet US standards and come under the Infiniti name. But that could be wrong.

The GT-R coming under the Infiniti badge would make a lot of sense. With a price tag possibly as high as $70k, a Nissan badge won't cut it. The GT-R is also supposed to be targeting the 911 Turbo, too. In the UK, the R34 had the problem of not selling, even though the price and performance were similar to the 996 Carrera. Porsche sold several times as many Carreras. Spend 50 grand on a Porsche or a Nissan? The choice was rather obvious. Branding the GT-R as an Infiniti will help.

[deadmaninc]

VE dont you mean VG? Yeah most North Americans wont pay 70k for a Nissan just they are going wtf a VW for around 70k? Well yeah they might use a VK40 but it may not be the best choice. I think it be simpler if they keep it V6 since it keep cost lower not to mention its a lighter engine. One of the speculation I did hear was they might use a VQ3.3 and not a VQ3.2. Well that could be another option. I dunno I would personally like to see both a higher power VQ engine and a high power VK engine options.