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Old 04-03-2004, 12:55 PM
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Post Am I the only one? Go ahead kill yourself...

I love movies and I can see how they inspire a lot of things for people in real life, but for street racing. One of you is going to kill yourself and
someone else that doesn't give a rats ass about your horse power or your bumble bee tail pipe. (believe me I'm trying not to sound harsh)

It is irresponsible to go around trying to get people to race. I know I sound like your grandma right? `

These stories im reading are just stupid. People are always trying to come up and pass you if you pass them. Thats just human nature. That doesn't mean they are trying to race you. Calm down.


But I wil say that the stories I'm reading show a lot of out of control road rage. Strangely some of them seem to end in a "good sport" win/loose situation.

If anyone who runs this forum is responsible they will eliminate this forum topic "Street Racing."

Although If they are responsible - they are only leaving it up so that cops can find you - hint hint anyone - makes ya think and wonder doesn't it?
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well, to retort

When your in a field with noone but spectators way off in the distance and the only one you can hurt is you, how is that so irresponsable? How is that any -worse- than when you lie on an application? Tell a date something untrue so they will like you? Not return change when your given too much at the store?

Driving on the freeway at 140 and cutting off people IS dumb, and should be noted as such. I freeway race, when theres noone but me and the other guy.

So please...continue, its your turn
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Old 04-03-2004, 02:02 PM
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Re: Am I the only one? Go ahead kill yourself...

What the hell....did you come in here just for the sole purpose of bashing street racing? What you have just said is not news to me, or any of us for that matter...We all know the risks associated with street racing, and we don't need you to come in here and reiterate it for us.
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Re: Am I the only one? Go ahead kill yourself...

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well, to retort

When your in a field with noone but spectators way off in the distance and the only one you can hurt is you, how is that so irresponsable? How is that any -worse- than when you lie on an application? Tell a date something untrue so they will like you? Not return change when your given too much at the store?

Driving on the freeway at 140 and cutting off people IS dumb, and should be noted as such. I freeway race, when theres noone but me and the other guy.

So please...continue, its your turn
Fuck dude, if you want to go out to a secluded lebby road and kill yourself go ahead. If you want to do it when your "freeway race" when there is no one but you and the other guy (and kill yourself) do that. I dont care if you don't see anyone on the freeway. That is not a race track.

In my local community people are killing theselves trying to race eachother "freeway racing."

I am not looking for an arguement I am displaying a statement nor is it arguable in anyway period regardless.
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Old 04-03-2004, 02:15 PM
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I know I sound like your grandma right?

Hey, Grammy... Shut the pie hole or I'll put you in a nursing home.


In ways, You are correct. Street Racing is irresponsible. And it is dangerous. But there are those of us who will take a particular race out to the boonies where you're literally endangering yourself, your car... and maybe Farmer McCoy's Cow.

Although, that may not be as safe as going to the track. It's as close to it as you can get without having a christmas tree and EMT standing by.

Not all of us live within a easy drive to a track, I used to have one 5 miles away from me. Terminal Island Raceway in the Port of Long Beach. But it was closed, nearly... 9..10 years ago? Now my closest track is Irwindale Speedway. But that's only a 1/8th mile, so the closest 1/4 are Fontana Raceway. It's a good 40-50 minute drive. And it's not always open.

And the reason why we have a 'Street Racing' forum. Is if we didn't, people would post their racing stories all over the forum, cluttering it up. Might as well put them all in one spot.

As stupid as it may sound, Street Racing is a form of Motorsport. It's been around ever since the second automobile was created. And it'll never go away.
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Re: Re: Am I the only one? Go ahead kill yourself...

I come from hell dude. I have seen people DIE because of it. So I'm gonna have to be a little bitch I guess.

I'm sure cops monitor this forum as well.

When you risk someone else dying not just yourself - which is exactly what you do when you say you know the risks are involved. You are saying "yes I know I could kill someone else as well as myself but I don't care i just want a rush"
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Re: Am I the only one? Go ahead kill yourself...

we all know cops are on this thread and we say FUCK THE COPS! now to your point. truthfully i dont like streetracing that much as far as doing it i go to a track because i am lucky enough to have one close by. but some people like redneck said arent as fortunate and have to make do and the way i see it is that if they want to race and if by chance they do wreck due to bad driving then fuck it. it was their decision to make and they are happy with it.
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Re: Re: Am I the only one? Go ahead kill yourself...

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we all know cops are on this thread and we say FUCK THE COPS! now to your point. truthfully i dont like streetracing that much as far as doing it i go to a track because i am lucky enough to have one close by. but some people like redneck said arent as fortunate and have to make do and the way i see it is that if they want to race and if by chance they do wreck due to bad driving then fuck it. it was their decision to make and they are happy with it.
Thats fine my point is made. I guess I am the only one who has this opinion - based on these responces. Street Racing does not have enough merit to be able to be bashed. I am not bashing it in that sense because thats what is already happening every day 16, 17 year olds killing themselves - and then 20-25 year olds trying drive like that to - unbelievable.

Actually Its not the movie fandf that I think actually influenced this behavior, I think its just stupidity.
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Has there never been a post with similar comments? That seems unreal - I am surprised if thats the case that this thread hasn't been deleted.
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Has there never been a post with similar comments? That seems unreal - I am surprised if thats the case that this thread hasn't been deleted.


Of course there has, People all over share your views. In many ways I do too, But I'm not perfect and get drawn into a little street encounter every once in a while.

We wouldn't delete your thread, or ban you. We're not Nazi's. You're entitled to your opinion.

We will however take action against you if you were to openly attack/flame another member. Or if you just spam up the forums with garbage.
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Re: Am I the only one? Go ahead kill yourself...

Raise your hand if you care?

I mean we all know and understand this things and this is a area to talk about street racing. So if you dislike it so why did you even come here? Just to stir things up? Well thats not welcomed here on AF. If you are just stating your veiws thats fine. But we as street racers most of us know whats too much when to back off and whats really stupid.
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Re: Am I the only one? Go ahead kill yourself...

Your self-righteousness based off the assumption that you know how all of us act don't impress me much.

In fact it makes me laugh at you.

If you don't care if street racers kill themselves, then why are you here expressing an opinion that obviously shows concerns even though you deny it?

Begone kiddo, I think you just want to start a flame war.
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I do agree that street racing in the middle of a city or busy area is stupid. However, If two people want to race in the middle of no where, they are only endangering themselves and that is their choice, just like at a track. Even at a track people on the sidlines can get hurt, if your a spectator of this stuff, then you should dam well know of the danger you are putting yourself in. I for one have never raced on a busy road before and I never plan to. I fear for the woman driving the mini-van with her two children in it. When ever I see someone race on a busy road, I usually pray that a cops see them because they are just being stupid and irresponsible. Bottom line is, we all (should) know the risks of what we do and we do it as safely as possible. just my
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[opinion] Why are you preaching about street racing? It seems as if your major point is the fact that you and someone else can die...

1. Lets look at cigarette deaths. God knows what teh ratio of "cig deaths/street racing deaths" is. And hell, cigarettes are legal! (note i am not against smokers in any way or form, nor do i preach against the tobacco industry, this is just a means of comparison)

2. How does a 21 year old street racing differ from a 80 year old going 96 down a highway because she thought that the interstate sign was the speed limit (true story in north carolina)? both more than likely arent the best drivers, so why not preach against old people driving? (once again, im not saying anything against old people)

And hell, it is natural for humans to compete. And you cant argue that fact. [/opinion]
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There is nothing inherently moral or immoral about street racing. It is simply an act. Forethought, discipline, and common sense can be employed to reduce risk down to only risking willing participants.

As far as I am concerned, the risk to those who are not participating is the one truly bad thing about street racing. The moment you choose to race on the street, you have acknowledged that you are risking both injury and punishment from the law. You have weighed the level of risk against the desire to race, and if you feel the race beats the risk, then you have waived off the right to complain if anything goes wrong and you are injured, fined, jailed, or killed.

Though please do realize you can't do too much complaining if you are killed.

As far as the safety risks on a country road, I see it as no different than going to a track. You've gone to a location where there are few or no non-participants on the surface, you're aware of the risks, and you weighed if the risks are acceptible.

So long as a person avoids participating in areas with many non-participants, is aware of the risks, and mindfully weighs the risks before participating, then they are a responsible street racer.
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