Transmission Help!!!

[GrungeAholicVR4]

Ok, I have a 95 VR4 that I just purchased a week ago, the stock hydrolic clutch was crap when i bought it, it felt so bad, and it died about 25 miles down the road, HAHAHA, funny right? so anyway, we bought super beefy XTD pressure plate and a 6 puck ceramic copper clutch plate, racing bearings ect.. Got the tranny pulled, old clutch assembly removed, new one put it, and now we are stuck with the problem of realigning the transmission, we have no engine lift, and have to do this with floor jacks, hoists and rope, and basically straight man power, if anyone has done their own clutch replacement before, or dropped the tranny and put it back with the same tools or situation we have, I would seriously appreciate any pointers or hints, because mitsubishi definetely made it tough on purpose because it is insane how tiny the comparment is and with the frame position and the tranny "hump"...ughhhh if you've done this or looked at your 6 speed you know what im talking about....Please, no comments about getting a dealer to do it, estimate for a new stock clutch and installation was at $1100 bucks, HELL NO!!!! I paid $400 for a badass clutch assembly so I will never have to do this crap again, now I know why the labor cost is so high at the dealer. We'll, if you have any advice for these Texas boys, lol, no stupid south hick jokes please, unless they're good. Thanks again, Peace

[youngvr4]

talskinnyguy might have the answer for you, just give him smome time to get on here, and beside that you can go to www.3si.org and ask in there also

[GrungeAholicVR4]

Originally Posted by youngvr4

talskinnyguy might have the answer for you, just give him smome time to get on here, and beside that you can go to www.3si.org and ask in there also

talskinnyguy??? When is he going to hlep me!!! LOL, this sucks soooo hard core, ill check on 3si again, see whats up, thanks, again somebody please gimme some advice here, where the hell is master YOG's at, I heard he was the man to go to about stuff like this....help O great one. And does anybody on here do their own work, or basically does everyone pay a performance store or shop to do it? Just a curiosity? thanks again, Peace

[ikOnone]

when i had to replace my clutch i took it to a local tranny shop that a friend of mine worked at. they had a tranny lift holder thingy (whatever the hell they are called) and it took the guy who was doing it about 8 hours or so. he was a professional with a shop full of tools. and not just any mechanic, this place specialized in trannys (called transmition technology services or something).

he said it was the 2nd hardest job he had ever done.
now this was the 5 speed (25 spline) though. i watched the whole thing and helped where i could. the main dificulty was getting the tranny in and out of the place where it goes but aligning it took a long time too. he just had to be patient and try many times and then he finally got it. i wish i could be more specific with the details but i thought my experience might help. if you know what you are doing i would think if you just give it a bunch of tries you should get it but it will take a while.

[ikOnone]

oh, by the way, i would try to go on 3si and find a local 3/S group around there that knows a good mechanic. because i knew someone at the shop, the guy did the job for $350 but i know i gave him at least an extra $50 because the job was way harder than he thought it would be (still a very good price for 8 hours of labor!) so in other words, if you know someone, you can get a good deal.

[cpd305]

not to be the doomsayer here, but I've run into lots of problems when it comes to cluthc installs, are you 100% certain you have the correct # of splines?...it happens, variations in production line assembly sometimes causes "off" parts..just FYI man..cpd305

[GrungeAholicVR4]

Originally Posted by ikOnone

oh, by the way, i would try to go on 3si and find a local 3/S group around there that knows a good mechanic. because i knew someone at the shop, the guy did the job for $350 but i know i gave him at least an extra $50 because the job was way harder than he thought it would be (still a very good price for 8 hours of labor!) so in other words, if you know someone, you can get a good deal.

Thanks for the advice man, but I know some people, but unfortunetly I dont have anymore money man, I spent it all on a super beefy clutch, because we have done clutches before, have a decent garage with tools, but just no lifts. but i just got back from another old friends garage, who lent me their tranny jack, so now we can try a few more times with much less effort I hope, ill keep you updated, still anyone with advice is still very welcome to drop my some hints, clues, links whatever, im not online to 3si, i heard you had to pay, but idk, help me out...im like one of the only people in texas with a vr4, prolly let alone a second generation.

[GrungeAholicVR4]

Originally Posted by cpd305

not to be the doomsayer here, but I've run into lots of problems when it comes to cluthc installs, are you 100% certain you have the correct # of splines?...it happens, variations in production line assembly sometimes causes "off" parts..just FYI man..cpd305

yea, I have the correct number of splines on the shaft, its all cool, the guy i bought the car from said it was the second tranny in the car, and he had been through 3 hydrolic clutches....1 tranny, 3 clutches...can we say dumbass that can't drive....lol, the idiot was trying to tell me that the 95 twin tubo'd vr4 was carburated.....hmmm so that tells me i cant trust what he tells me, but the splines are good, and by the way, I just picked up another friends tranny jack, so no more floor jack attempts, and you said you have done this a few times, this is my first vr4 clutch, but not clutch install, how did you do it? any tricks? or hints from when you did it?

Thanks again, the lone texas VR4 ranger....not really, but close

[ikOnone]

Originally Posted by GrungeAholicVR4

im like one of the only people in texas with a vr4, prolly let alone a second generation.

here is a very incomplete list of some of the 3/S (3kgt and stealth, same car) cars in texas:


1. 193mit3000gtvr4 – ’93 3KGT VR4 (black) ’98 3KGT Base (red) – Wichita Falls
2. 1997 VR4 - ’97 3KGT VR4 (????) - Houston
3. 1badVR4 - ’93 3KGT VR4 (chameleon) - San Antonio
4. 3GTERY - ’94 3KGT (wrecked?) - Texas Yall!
5. 3kGtSl - ’?? 3KGT SL - North Richland Hills
6. 3siR/T – ’92 Stealth RT (red) – Friendswood/Houston
7. 92es - ’92 Stealth ES (????) - Brazoria-Houston
8. 93 Green RT - ’93 Stealth RT (green) - Lewisville-DFW
9. 93basegt - ’92 3KGT VR4 (blue) - Ft. Worth
10. 93VR4twins - ’93 3KGT VR4 (black) - Aurora (Col.)
11. 94_3000gt_tx – ’94 3KGT SL (black) -Houston
12. AarronOverturf - ’?? 3KGT VR4 (????) - LUBBOCK
13. Acidburn895 - ’91 3KGT VR4 (white) - Wichata Falls
14. abeRcrombiestud - (?????) - San Antonio
15. Adrenaline_VR4 - ’92 3KGT VR4 (red) - Houston
16. Adrenaline_VR4 - brother - Houston
17. AdamClamp - ’91 Stealth ES (black) - Longview
18. AGGIE - ’95 Stealth TT (????) - College Station
19. Ajn1n - ’93 3KGT VR4 (green) - Hurst
20. Alcoholika - ’92 Stealth TT (black) - Plano
21. Antonio - ’92 3KGT VR4 (yellow) - Houston
22. Asa Atallah - ?????? - North Dallas
23. BaseModel – ’94 Stealth Base (????) - Houston
24. BENSON82
25. Big D - ?????? - Rowlett
26. bgwart - ’93 Stealth RT (red) - Lewisville
27. Black1995GTBase - ’92 3KGT VR4 (sandstone) - Fort Worth
28. BluTooth - ’95 3KGT VR4 (blue) - Friendswood
29. BowmanZR7 - ’92 3KGT SL (green) - Mesquite
30. Bradvr4 - ?????? - Arlington
31. Brandyblasor - ’92 Stealth RT (red) - Arlington
32. brett3342 - ’93 3KGT SL (green) - Lubbock
33. Brick - ?????? - League City
34. brody_martin – ’93 Stealth Base (blue) - Abilene
35. budho - ’93 3KGT VR4 (red) - Katy
36. BUfavian – ’95 3KGT Base (p white) - The Colony
37. c^3 - ’91 Stealth TT (black) - Ft Worth
38. Cadman – ’94 3KGT SL (????) - Crosby
39. Campo
40. Canenac - ’94 3KGT SL (maroon) - Tulsa (OK)
41. Cees – ’92 3KGT VR4 (blue) - Lewisville
42. Charles – ’95 Stealth RT (black) - Katy
43. chriswtx - ’94 Stealth TT (yellow) - New Braunfels
44. Chutdoggin
45. Couger6984 - ?????? - Ada (OK)
46. DakotaRT - ’92 Stealth TT (red) - Dakota
47. dallasvr4guy - ’95 3KGT VR4 (green) - Dallas
48. Daniel ------- ?????? - Richardson
49. Dave - ?????? - Lewisville
50. David Levan
51. DavidX - ’9? 3KGT VR4 (green) - Plano
52. deskjett6 - ’92 Stealth RT (green) - South Texas
53. detpac - ’92 3KGT VR4 (????) - El Paso
54. Deviate - ’92 Stealth Base (white) - Wichita Falls
55. devilmanVISA - ’95 3KGT VR4 (black) - College Station
56. Dj4play - ’92 3KGT VR4 (silver) '91 3KGT VR4 (beige) - Fort Worth
57. DTman32 ---- ’94 3KGT SL (white) ---- Garland
58. duchguy ---- ’96 3KGT VR4 (green) ---- Lewisville
59. EAST100 ---- ’95 3KGT (red) ---- Gainsville
60. EclipseDrift95 ---- ’95 Eclipse (????) ---- Austin
61. Edgavi ---- ’92 3KGT VR4 (red) ---- Ft Worth
62. ElCubano – ’94 3KGT (????) - Harlingen
63. eljefefx - ’94 3KGT (green) - Ft.Worth
64. ErthMeld - ??????? - Austin
65. Eskimo - ??????? - Houston
66. Evil_Stealth - ’92 3KGT VR4 (blue) - Austin/Houston
67. ExCaliBer - ’92 3KGT VR4 (silver) ’92 3KGT base (red) - Austin
68. Firebird - ’92 3KGT VR-4 (Black) - Dallas
69. Fishermaxwell - ’91 3KGT VR4 (white) - Galveston
70. fixeruper - '91 3KGT VR4 (maroon) - Watauga
71. Flasher - ’91 Stealth RT (blue) - DFW
72. Floatpill
73. Franklin - ?????? – Houston
74. FRIMS – ’93 Stealth Base (teal) – Amarillo
75. F Wichern - ’97 3KGT VR4 (black) - Richardson
76. Gecko1 - ?????? - Houston
77. Gene Crumpler - ’92 Stealth TT (red) - Austin
78. Gnatsplat - ’96 3KGT (red) - Houston
79. Gonin12 - ’92 3KGT VR4 (green) - Oklahoma City
80. Gordon T. - ?????? - Lewisville
81. GPN - ?????? - El Paso
82. greenlantern - ????????? - Lewisville
83. GrimlokTT - ’91 3KGT VR4 (white/maroon stripe) - San Antonio
84. h82luz
85. hostile - ?????? - Odessa
86. HydeDW - ’97 3KGT VR4 (white) - Richardson
87. Iceburg470 - ’95 3KGT (black) – Houston
88. iguana – ’9? 3KGT VR4 (????) - Austin
89. Interex
90. J-Groove - ’95 3KGT (red) - Waco
91. J.CUSSEN - ’?? 3KGT VR4 (????) - Galveston
92. JagVR4 - ?????? - Abilene
93. jan3000gt
94. jcolunga - ’95 Stealth RT (white) - Garland
95. JD-01 - ?????? - Austin
96. jdc4085 - ’96 3KGT VR4 (red) - Waco/College Station
97. joegem5 – ’94 3KGT VR4 (red) – Ft.Worth
98. Joel - ????????? - Dallas
99. JoeStealth – ’92 Stealth TT (blue) - Lake Jackson
100. JonathanA71
101. Jsimpson65 - ?????? - Houston
102. JTOAEZ - ’93 Stealth ?? (blue) - San Antonio
103. JTVR-4 – ’9? 3KGT VR4 (red) – League City
104. Jw461 - ’95 3KGT VR4 Spyder (black) - Garland
105. k2qukslvrw - ?????? – Houston
106. Ka-El – ’91 3KGT (????) - Houston
NEW Keith_from_GpTx Red 99 Base - DFW
107. kent ts3
108. KingBlade - ???????? - Houston Area
109. krackhead - ’95 3KGT VR4 (black) – Irving/Valley Ranch
110. KrazyKool - ’92 3KGT SL (red) - Ft Worth
111. Kruso
112. KryptoKnight – ’91 3KGT SL (????) - Houston
113. lets get it on - ???????? - Garland
114. Lets_rock – ’94 3KGT base (dark blue) - Houston
115. Lildgm - ????? – Tyler
116. lowflier03 – ’91 Stealth TT (red) - Longview
117. Madrox - ’94 3KGT (black) - Longview
118. Malashius II - ’94 Stealth (black) - Ft. Hood
119. mallegant2002 - ’92 Stealth ES (green) - Houston Area
120. ManUtd - ????? - Austin
121. manxk
122. meangreenrt - ’92 Stealth TT (burgundy) - Dallas
123. meangreenrt II - ’92 Stealth RT (green) - Dallas
124. megamantheman1 - ’97 3KGT VR4 (black) – College Station/Frisco
125. MikeB – ’91 3KGT VR4 (red) - Houston
126. Mista Grimm - ’96 3KGT (red) - Ft. Worth
127. Mitchell T. - ‘?? 3KGT SL (white) - Wichata Falls?
128. mitsuBITCHi3kgt - ’93 3KGT SL (green) - Dallas
129. mitsugtocars - ’93 3KGT TT Conv (green) - Del Rio
130. Mongorunner - ’92 Stealth ES (red) - Stephenville
131. Morfinx - ’92 3KGT SL (red) - Waco
132. Mospeed - ’97 3KGT VR4 (white) - Fort Worth
133. Munich_Flash - Wants a 3Si car!! - Waco
134. Munkey - ??????? - Brazoria-Houston
135. n/a_style - ’95 3KGT (red w/white stripe) - Ft. Worth
136. N2 TRBL - ’9? 3KGT VR4 (????) - Dallas Area
137. Nalizan - '93 3KGT Base (black) - Dallas
138. needforspeed - ’92 3KGT (red) - San Antonio?
139. nightrider - ’94 3KGT SL (????) - Texas City
140. Nismo4320 – ’9? 3KGT Base (????) – San Marcos
141. niterider3K - ’?? 3KGT VR4 (????) - Round Rock
142. nizar82 - ’92 3KGT SL (????) - Austin
143. pacman3000GT - ’94 3KGT VR4 (black) - Dallas
144. Pearl95 - ’95 3KGT VR4 (white) – Lewisville
145. Pilotkty – ’94 3KGT Base (p white) - Houston
146. PitchblackVR4 - ’91 3KGT VR4 (red) - Stillwater (OK)
147. Prime - ’96 3KGT Base (black) - Ft. Worth
148. ps933kgt - ’?? 3KGT (burgundy) – ’91 Stealth TT (black) – Clear Lake
149. QuickSL - ’?? 3KGT SL (black) - Rockwall
150. Ragu - ’94 3KGT SL (????) - Dallas
151. Randomtask16 - ’92 Stealth TT (red) - Dallas
152. rda2 - ’94 3KGT VR4 (blue) - Dallas
153. redrkt - ’95 3KGT (red) ’95 3KGT SL (white) - Spring
154. Redrocket - ’93 3KGT (red) SOLD - Dallas
155. REV - ’95 3KGT Spyder SL - Houston
156. Revolution - ’91 Stealth TT (????) - Houston
157. Ricardo Paredes - ’92 3KGT (green) - Lewisville
158. Richy T. - ’92 Stealth ES (black) - El Paso
159. Rumple3000 - ’94 3KGT (white) - Flowermound
160. RUNVS - Needs ’92 3KGT VR4 ASAP! – Livingston
161. rush6432 - '92 Stealth TT (red) - Austin
162. Rx is now GT - ’96 3KGT Base (green) - Plano
163. s_mi11er - ’95 3KGT VR4 (white) - Richardson-Dallas
164. Sanchez White - 3KGT (white) - North Dallas
165. scotish3000gt – ’92 3KGT (green) - Houston
166. Sean3S - ’94 Stealth TT (yellow) – Houston
167. ShadowX – ’98 3KGT SL (????) - Texas
168. Showkiller - ’92 Stealth TT (blue) - Euless/DFW
169. sid_zr2 - ’92 3KGT VR4 (maroon) - Austin
170. Sidge - ???????? - San Antonio
171. silentkilla - NEEDS A 3SI CAR! - Austin
172. Silentthunder - ’91 Stealth ES (red) - San Marcus
173. sm0ky - ’95 Stealth (black) - Houston
174. smol - ’95 3KGT VR4 (black) - San Antonio
175. Space Coyote - Needs another 3Si car!!! - Coranth
176. speed3000gt - ’94 3KGT SL (green) - Dallas
177. Spirit - ’91 3KGT VR4 (????) ’99 3KGT SL (????) - Houston
178. Spyd3rr - ’95 3KGT SL Spyder (red) - Houston
179. StealthCRF - ’92 Stealth ES (green) - The Colony
180. Stealth Fighter - ’91 Stealth RT (white) - Dallas
181. Stryph - ’95 3KGT VR4 (white) - Deep South
182. Surge – ’93 3KGT SL (red) - McAllen
183. Super Q. - ’92 Stealth TT (red) - Houston
184. Taylor91TT - ’91 Stealth TT (????) - Corsicana
185. Teamtotty - ’95 3KGT VR4 (white) - Lewisville
186. Tech - ’92 3KGT VR4 (white) - The Colony
187. Tod - (3SI User Name Not Listed) - Houston
188. Tonygold - ’91 Stealth TT (white) - San Antonio
189. Travis - ’93 Stealth ES (????) - DFW Area
190. Trinity Arrow - 3KGT VR4 (green) – Irving
191. TX-redhot3000gt – ’95 3KGT SL (red) – Pampa/Amarillo
192. txbiker911 – ’96 3KGT SL (????) - DFW
193. UTRacerX9 - ’91 Stealth TT (blue) - Dallas
194. V8klr - ’?? 3KGT VR4 (????) - College Station
195. Velocity - ’?? 3KGT (????) - ??????
196. Venom - ’95 3KGT (red) - San Antonio
197. Venom800 - ’95 3KGT (white) - Denton
198. Vincent - ’96 3KGT Base (white) - Richardson
199. VR4_loco - ’92 3KGT VR4 (white) - El Paso
200. vr4driver - ’93 3KGT VR4 (green) - Rosenberg
201. vr4sleeper2003 - ’93 3KGT VR4 (????) - Victoria
202. Weed_Man - ’93 3KGT VR4 (white) – Austin
203. WhiteVR4demon – ’96 3KGT VR4 (white) - Mercedes
204. Wicked_blue24 - ’94? 3KGT SL (blue?) - Waco
205. Widowmaker03 - ’95 3KGT VR4 (????) - San Antonio
206. Wrat – ’94 3KGT VR4 (green) – Austin/Driftwood
207. Yeanchie - ’92 3KGT VR4 (blue) - Houston
208. zenki - ’96 3KGT SL (black) - Grand Prairie
209. Zinjn - ’92 3KGT VR4 (red) - Houston
210. Zprime - ’93 Stealth TT (????) - Brazos/Houston

as i said, only a very partial list. i got this from http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread....87#post1999787

and no you do not need to pay to register on 3si and ask a question but you should register and become a payed member because it is probably one of the best resources we have for our cars and it only costs 2.7 cents a day for a renewing membership. you can find 2.7 cents a day in your couch.

[GrungeAholicVR4]

as i said, only a very partial list. i got this from http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread....87#post1999787

and no you do not need to pay to register on 3si and ask a question but you should register and become a payed member because it is probably one of the best resources we have for our cars and it only costs 2.7 cents a day for a renewing membership. you can find 2.7 cents a day in your couch.[/quote]


Wow, thanks for the useless info...I live in houston, and according to that "incomplete" list, i am the only 1995 3000GT VR4 in factory black, and and thanks for posting all of the base's and SL's in their as well, I appreciate it...really, like i said, "VR4"!!!! lol, ughhh, do your really have to go that far out of your way to be anoying? or yet again simply prove a point that there are like maybe 20-30 vr4's in texas, and maybe 10-15 in houston....hmmmm and then when you consider the split up of first and second gen. cars, and the dodges and mitsubishi's....still sounds like the texas pack pack is running pretty thin, but seeing how they only made about 150 VR4's every year from 91-99....id say the VR4 pack is running thin everywhere. Thin but strong, like i said, this is a transmision help post, and I thanked you already for your information, what little you had, but anyways, thanks for taking 5 minutes out of your amazingly busy day to find a list of cars in my area to make yourself look like a know it all smart ass on a thread, thanks pal! I aprreciate it, if you ever need someone to tell you how to put gas in your car, or change the oil, lol, im sure you can search that and find how to do that on the internet as well. As for me, we'll im going to actually work on my car and get to know it inside and out with my time, not waste it with post's and threads that get nothing but smart ass comments and remarks with gay lil smile faces...lol, peace man

[ikOnone]

are you serious???
ok man, maybe you took the laughing faces the wrong way but i thought it was funny, not trying to insult you. you said (and i quote you again):

im like one of the only people in texas with a vr4, prolly let alone a second generation

there are probably at least 70 second gen vr-4's on that list. and i would guess that only one out of every 20 vr-4 owners is a 3si member none the less on that list. and you siad vr-4's so first gens count too and that would probably put the list count up to about 100 or so (on that list alone).

also, i was trying to show you other enthusiasts that might be willing to help you with your problem in your area. i did not know where in texas you were and i did not know that there was any difference in the transmitions between 2nd gen stealth r/t tt's and 2nd gen vr-4's (oh wait, there isn't) and i certainly did not know that there was a difference in the tranny's between the different color's of vr-4's (i did not even know yours was black... imagine that) and again THERE IS NOT DIFFERENCE IN TRANNY's DEPENDING ON COLOR. same point applies with the year and again i did not know yours was a 95.

the point is that there are probably hundreds if not thousands of vr-4's in texas alone and also about 6/9ths of them are 2nd gens. you said you were just about the only one. THAT IS PURE BULL AND I GOT A LAUGH OUT OF IT AND WAS TRYING TO HELP/EDUCATE YOU. now you tacked on that they not only have to be 2nd gens but have to be 95's and black and VR-4's not TT's and in the houston area and they had to be on that list which probably represents at most 10% of the 3/S's in your state alone (again as if that mattered with the problem that i was trying to help you with).

so anyway, i tried to help but if you want to narrow down the criteria that much, fine i went through the list briefly and found these:


55. devilmanVISA - ’95 3KGT VR4 (black) - College Station
87. Iceburg470 - ’95 3KGT (black) – Houston
104. Jw461 - ’95 3KGT VR4 Spyder (black) - Garland
109. krackhead - ’95 3KGT VR4 (black) – Irving/Valley Ranch
174. smol - ’95 3KGT VR4 (black) - San Antonio

they are not all in houston but i do not know if some of those places are suburbs or close enough or what.


also, only 150 vr-4's per year is a gross underestimate. are you trying to say that 1/10th of the world population of vr-4's are not only in texas but are also on that list??? check your facts, that is wrong. i am sure after this you will say that you only ment black vr-4's made that were sold in texas to cover your ass like you did with that last post and narrowing it down to only black 95 vr-4's in the houston area when what you said was about all vr-4's of all years/colors in texas and with a specific interest in 2nd gens.

i did not go out of my way to make fun of you or something, as i said, i was trying to help/educate you. i was subscribed to the thread with that list so it took me about 1 min. to post that. it is all i can do to keep from cussing you out here but i will not because i try to be more mature than that. i suggest you do a bit of growing up yourself.

[ikOnone]

Mitsubishi 3000GT production (and reported sales) totals by model year:
Model Year 91 92 93
VR-4 3693 (3646) 4947 (4853) 2595 (2550)

Model Year 94 95 96
VR-4 1650 (1591) 1311 (1263) 315 (880)
VR-4 Spyder 0 531 (*) 346 (*)

Model Year 97 98 99
VR-4 510 (646) 231 (156) 287 (45)



Mitsubishi 3000GT production totals for all years:
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Base 37176
SL 31818
VR-4 15539
SL Spyder 741
VR-4 Spyder 877
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Grand Total 86151


(*) Spyder sales figures appear to be scattered from 95-97 and skew the figures.
(*) Sales figures for 95 & 96 (& so called 97) VR-4 Spyders appear to be included in the
figures shown for 95, 96 & 97 VR-4's.


95 VR-4 colors:
Jet Black X94 280

hmmmm, so just from that last fact, there were almost 2 times as many vr-4's made in 1995 in black alone as you said was about the total number made every year. i guess 95 must have been far and away their highest production year and i guess they only made black vr-4's.

sorry, i was a little pissed at your rude comments so i thought i would show you what i could acctuall find out if i acctually did do research. care to test me on any other points? you can check my source out for yourself at http://www.3si.org/forum/showthread....=VR-4+produced

[GrungeAholicVR4]

also, i was trying to show you other enthusiasts that might be willing to help you with your problem in your area. i did not know where in texas you were and i did not know that there was any difference in the transmitions between 2nd gen stealth r/t tt's and 2nd gen vr-4's (oh wait, there isn't) and i certainly did not know that there was a difference in the tranny's between the different color's of vr-4's (i did not even know yours was black... imagine that)

hmmmmmm no difference between first and second gen trannys, really, only the gearing and the addition of the fact the second gen tranny Oooo umm have another gear? hmmmm, so yea, look that up and try to find another way to be an ass? lol, and btw, i stated load and clear, I believe i said, i was one of only a few people in texas with a VR4, let only a SECOND GENERATION....hmmm can you not fucking read? damn, lol, i think you need to spend a lil more time on google pal, lol, and i simple stated that out of your list of absolute all mighty beautiful cars, lol, that has been updated when? where? how long ago? Cars get bought, sold and moved everyday, not to MENTION, WRECKED, TOTALLED, btw I dont know very many people that total cars, let alone rare ones, like ooooo first gen vr4's? oh man, just leave it alone, i was wrong about a production number? you were wrong about some serious shit like car facts, and tech, please dont reply to a thread that you have no clue about in the begining, just to say some shit like, Look here, they might help you, or somebody may know what the hell they are doing, I still dont know if anyone on this forum does their own mods, or knows what they are talkin about except for young and yogs, so just chill and go sit in a corner somewhere and like be proud of you ability to look up things and information that you dont know, which seems to be a lot, except for production numbers and paint lol, that you seem to have, ummm looked up five minutes before you posted a reply on this thread, so go look up something and just leave the thread alone. lol, stick to what your good at...so, ummm hows that nothing going?

[Igovert500]

Whoooaaa hostility. Chill out man, it's your 7th post here and you're already getting into fights. You were right about the difference in trannys between 1st and 2nd gens. But chill out. Starting fights isn't the way to get help. Especially if you are trying to do it with the entire forum. Just FYI, we all do what we can. Some of us may not have the money or access for a full garage full of tools, but we do our best.. I havn't removed my tranny, so I really can't offer any advice, except for future reference...if you're a dick, people wont really care to help. That out of the way, good luck, our engine bays have no space, so I am sure that a job like that can't be easy ~ Geoff

[ikOnone]

Originally Posted by GrungeAholicVR4

i did not know that there was any difference in the transmitions between 2nd gen stealth r/t tt's and 2nd gen vr-4's (oh wait, there isn't) and i certainly did not know that there was a difference in the tranny's between the different color's of vr-4's (i did not even know yours was black... imagine that)

hmmmmmm no difference between first and second gen trannys, really, only the gearing and the addition of the fact the second gen tranny Oooo umm have another gear ? hmmmm, so yea, look that up and try to find another way to be an ass? lol, and btw, i stated load and clear, I believe i said, i was one of only a few people in texas with a VR4, let only a SECOND GENERATION....hmmm can you not fucking read?

read the first part of that again (where you were quoting me) notice how i mentioned that there was no difference between the 2nd gens. i know that the first gens are 5 speed and the second gens are 6 speed and they have different gear ratios, i have for years. ;et me quote exactly what i said and you quoted again for you:

i did not know that there was any difference in the transmitions between 2nd gen stealth r/t tt's and 2nd gen vr-4's (oh wait, there isn't)

notice the words 2nd gen in there several times. i did not mention it later on for ther color, and the cars that are in houston because i thought that i had allready made it clear that i was only saying that they are the same among second gens. fece it, you were wrong on pretty much every point and i prooved it. now you are getting way too angry and cursing at me... that is childish. tell you what, get yogs or young or both on here and see who they side with.

i will admit to one thing though, that texas 3/S list (although it has been updated in the last week or two) is not a formal list of running cars. as i said MANY times it is incomplete and i never said it was a formal "this is the one and only list of each and every 3/S ever to be in the state of texas and is in current running condition... EVER" or anything. i just took a sec to get a quick quote to show you that you were very wrong thinking that you were one of the only vr-4's in texas. let me quote it again, the thing that got you so angry and you siad it:

im like one of the only people in texas with a vr4

WRONG WRONG WRONG!!! sorry deal with it.

sorry, i have studied these cars for a while and i know what you are talking about. i assure yougs and young would back me up on this as well as the many people on 3si that are MUCH more knowledgable about these cars than yogs young and myself combined. i know because i have listened and talked to the experts for years and rather than bash those that knew more than me or prooved me wrong, i thanked them and moved on. as i said before, grow up, your posts are rude and unsubstantiated at best, that is no way for fellow enthusiests to talk to each other.

for example, look at how i initially responded to your first rude uncalled for comment. i said:

are you serious???
ok man, maybe you took the laughing faces the wrong way but i thought it was funny, not trying to insult you.


NOT TRYING TO INSULT YOU, MAYBE YOU TOOK IT THE WRONG WAY, do these sound like i was trying to diss you or talk down to you. i did later because i was pissed but i allways tried to be civil about it. at most i used a little sarcasm, i did not say things like:

can you not fucking read?

not to mention that was right below where you quoted me and responded to that quote and obviously did not read it throughly at all.