FF Inertia Drift

[FFDriftweapon]

Does anybody else practice ff drift WITHOUT e-brake? I have been practising since I got my licence (even before just a little...) and I can now braking drift, scandinavian flick and 2 corner inertia drift (braking drift followed by weight transfer to drift the other way) and high speed lift off oversteer better than all my friends with rwd cars. While i'm sliding at the corner entry anybody I see in rwd cars starts to porwerslide after the apex. BORING!!! Is there anybody else who uses these techniques or likes drifting without the e-brake?

For those who want to know: My car is a new mazda 2 with 16" enkei wheels, AVS ES100 tires, stiffer springs and a 21mm front anti-roll bar. The only mod to engine etc... is a louder exaust. The H-beam rear suspension provides excellent roll stiffness for drifting.

[Bunta]

You should upgrade the rear swaybar. If the rear swaybar uses the typical style links, you can replace the little donut bushings in the links with poly ones that can be found easily. That, and just try to find a bigger rear bar. Somebody might make a cool rear swaybar upgrade kit with hardware and bushings included.

Just a suggestion. Sounds like you don't really need it though! Nifty car. Me and my friend just got back from a joyride in his MkII GTI. He loves left foot braking. He's got ES100's too, on 15" BBS (black w/ polished lip).

IN B4 TEH SOYO!!! OH NOES HERE HE CUMZORZ!!!

[1viadrft]

ugh... tell me you didn't get an exhaust just so it can be louder? RICE!
I think '323' drifts with his e-brake... I'm not so sure.... but he drifts a Mazda FWD 323... ask him...

[Initial_D]

It's easy to drift with FF cars . but u have to practice it daily, all what u have to do is breaking while u r inside the corner (( by using ur left foot )) and accelerate by using ur right foot at the same time. most of honda pro drifters do that

[1viadrft]

HONDA PRO-DRIFTERS? No such thing, kid! But I agree with that technique for FF drifting...

[flylwsi]

no such thing?
come now...
you've seen the video of the civic drifting in japan, i'm sure...
and you know there's an ff drift team in japan, right?

[jdmkenji]

I want to see videos or pictures of you drifting! I have nothing against FF cars and i would be the first one to defend ff drifting against others... but i'm curious about your "techniques"

Do u use AVS ES100 all around?
U don't use e-brake at all? How fast are you going and where do you do your drifts? I recommend getting videos, as much as it feels like drifting from the inside of the car... it looks totally different from the outside.

And did someone mention "honda pro drifters"? ummm yah! right! way too much initial d my friend.

[1viadrft]

flylwsi,
I said PRO-DRIFTING, ass-head! Those are all amatuers!

[Bunta]

Yeah. Exhaust mods right off the get-go usually set off some of my parimeter alerts.

He's got a point about all that amatuer power slide waddling on corner exit, though. The whole "drifting is slow" argument comes from this type of thing.

[1viadrft]

uh-huh... but some these kids think: "yeah, I'm gonna go all hachi-roku on your ass and beat you by drifting..." Can drift ever be fast though? Or just on certain corners... this topic is really bugging me!

[flylwsi]

did you seriously just call me an ass head?
did you know that there are people who compete professionally in fwd cars in drift competitions?
there's a video of one.
get over it.

it's not difficult to get oversteer in a fwd car w/o the e brake, the problem is keeping the slide going for more than 1 corner w/o the e brake.

1viadrft.
for someone who is still asking a ton of basic questions about this sport, please don't talk trash to me like you know everything.

[1viadrft]

As in PRO... I'm thinking D1GP, ass-head! LoL! Don't get sensitive on me! I'm not aware of any other PRO division! And I'm not aware of PRO FWD DRIFTING! Has anyone else??? I have nothing against FWD drift! I have actually been a supporter of FWD-DRIFT if you recall? I think I even mentioned THEY DO IT IN JAPAN? But not professionally, son!
Sorry, if I'm giving you the impression that I know everything... I don't know how you started presuming that... I thought maybe my questions would give an indication that I DO NOT KNOW EVERYTHING... no, I'm no pro-drifter! I'm not as technical as you guys! I just did it and did not know how.... LoL. Shit, I don't even drift anymore! But I'm still quite intrested... and I'm not afraid to ask questions...

[flylwsi]

d1gp is not the only pro level drift event.
you're a total ricer if you're thinking that.

you know there are more than one sanctioning body that hosts events, no?
just like there's another one in the states, that's a pro level drift sanctioning body.

where do you think the pros come from?
underground.
where do you think that ff drifters are at? underground.

and how about the guys that have, and do compete, in japan, with fwd cars?
are they not pro now?

come on...

[FFDriftweapon]

ok, here we go.

1. My car doesn't have a rear sway bar, it uses a torsion beam rear link which is about 4" thick.
2. Nobody makes bushings for my car yet cos its only a new model.
3. I never use e-brake, I prefer to test my skill (not trying to look like a wanker) and it's easier on the rear brakes
4. I have got video and the angle is not small, generally 1 turn of opposite lock if i'm going big.
5. The exaust gives the car a bigger top end and more than anything I like listening to it.
6. Linking corners in fwd can be done, you brake drift the first corner right foot, then for the tighter second corner release the brake and the rear will grip then the weight transfer will throw the car back the other way. The second corner has to be immediate and tighter than the first or you'll be going too slow. I normally approach a 90' corner at 80kph and brake to 60kph at the entry. Just brake hard into the apex and the rear will swing round.
7. I use 4 ES100's
8. I have numerous 'option' and 'best motoring/hot version' DVD's so yes I am familiar with drifting.
9. I actually wanted to know if anybody else did this stuff...
10. I only LFB when I'm "grip driving", I just don't think you need it.

[1viadrft]

Originally Posted by flylwsi

d1gp is not the only pro level drift event.
you're a total ricer if you're thinking that.

you know there are more than one sanctioning body that hosts events, no?
just like there's another one in the states, that's a pro level drift sanctioning body.

where do you think the pros come from?
underground.
where do you think that ff drifters are at? underground.

and how about the guys that have, and do compete, in japan, with fwd cars?
are they not pro now?

come on...

Alright... name one other PRO drift event that is sanctuary to FWD-DRIFT and I shall stand corrected. Deal???