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Old 01-31-2004, 11:59 PM
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For my first upgrade on my new 98 gp gt I ordered a pair of mufflers with 4 inch in diameter. I've heard it and it sounds nice but how much power will I gain??
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Re: My first upgrade

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For my first upgrade on my new 98 gp gt I ordered a pair of mufflers with 4 inch in diameter. I've heard it and it sounds nice but how much power will I gain??
4" wow. What diameter is the pipe going in and out of the mufflers?
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Re: My first upgrade

I have heard that if you do not have that much air flowing out of the combustion chamber(a.k.a. your engine producing a heck of exausht pressure) the engine will deflate too quickly even on intake and instead of making more power you might loose some. I have not seen a GP with 4" exhaust before so tell me how your behaves...
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Old 02-01-2004, 08:05 AM
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4" exhaust? i got that on my 41ft boat with twin 455s. something does not sound right, maybe i should put some coffee can exhaust(the big fat muffs out the back) on my boat. the boys and girls at the marina would love that....
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Re: My first upgrade

Maybe he means 4" tip'd mufflers.

He said Mufflers not the entire exhaust was that big
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Old 02-01-2004, 09:54 AM
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Re: My first upgrade

If he is talking about the muffler tips, then he won't be gaining a bit. just a little growl...
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Re: My first upgrade

Tips are for nothing but looks and mufflers are just for sound. Doubt there are any gains by just replacing the mufflers.
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Well first of all its 4 inches in diameter and also Its not a tip its a muffler with a tip and here it is:
http://www.mps-shop.com/PickupSuvs/p...dept%5Fid=4280

tell me what you think. I'm hopping for something like 5hp.
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Re: My first upgrade

Tip doesnt look to bad at all. Should fillthe bumper cutout good.

It says 4" Tip but doesnt say what the inlet size of the muffler is.
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Re: My first upgrade

Ripn12s, you are correct.
Behvah78, since it only changes the exhaust tip with the muffler the same turbulance you had before reaching the muffler on the whole exhaust system from the exhaust manifold will stay basically the same. If you gain something would not be close even to a 1hp, but should sound nice.
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Re: My first upgrade

Shoot I should have bought the cut-out then. Too bad it is illegal.
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Re: Re: My first upgrade

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Shoot I should have bought the cut-out then. Too bad it is illegal.
I got a cutout right before the Ypipe and it sounds like butt. It also did not give me better times after MANY tests.
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Re: My first upgrade

I gained .2 w/ a cutout placed in the same spot.
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Re: My first upgrade

Gaining a few more hp on my gt seems impossible then! If cut-out doesn't do it then what does?? How about these guyz:
http://cgi.ebay.com/ebaymotors/ws/eB...tem=2458142011
22hp is definetly bullshit but howabout 5 or somethin
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Re: My first upgrade

I'd stay away from that ebay crap.

Just stick with either a DHP PCM or CYA Racing PCM
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