Drift and Frizt I need your opinions

[Dragonmotorsports]

Hey guys I have a question for you and i need to know your honest opinions about what to do with a 2001 SS lude

1) should i go F/I? i have yet to have seen a good quality kit other then the prototype Greddy and the JR supercharger. I want to keep my car a daily driver and i don't want to have to worry about blowing up my engine, or my tranny because i have heard a lot of bad things lately about the durability of the SS tranny...

Or 2) should i just got I/H/E and some other stuff and not worry about blowing my engine all to hell and save the extra cash for a down payment on the new Nissan GTR R35 that might be coming here.

I know with F/I i would be seeing anywhere from 220 (JR) to 280 (F-max open loop) wHp

But what kind of gains would i see from a good bolt on setup? I.e. I/H/E pullys, cam gears, and ect... Thanks for all your advice ahead of time guys

[eightysix]

Well everything aftermarket isent good for your car. I would just put i/h/e for durability and then in the future buy another car and mod the hell outta that one. Also the SS sucks you should of just got the Type SH or base manual because your gonna regret it. It's all about your personal prefrence.

[Dragonmotorsports]

i got the SS because i Live downtown in a city with lousy traffic looking back maybe i should have gotten the 5 speed but i like the SS and its nice to have especailly when your girlfriend wants to drive

[Dragonmotorsports]

Anyone else with a valid opinion please voice it. All thoughts regarding this issue is of great importance to me...Thanks to all that give their thoughts regarding this

[del]

Originally posted by Dragonmotorsports
Hey guys I have a question for you and i need to know your honest opinions about what to do with a 2001 SS lude

1) should i go F/I? i have yet to have seen a good quality kit other then the prototype Greddy and the JR supercharger. I want to keep my car a daily driver and i don't want to have to worry about blowing up my engine, or my tranny because i have heard a lot of bad things lately about the durability of the SS tranny...

Or 2) should i just got I/H/E and some other stuff and not worry about blowing my engine all to hell and save the extra cash for a down payment on the new Nissan GTR R35 that might be coming here.

I know with F/I i would be seeing anywhere from 220 (JR) to 280 (F-max open loop) wHp

But what kind of gains would i see from a good bolt on setup? I.e. I/H/E pullys, cam gears, and ect... Thanks for all your advice ahead of time guys

the prelude's engine is one of the stronger engines offered by honda. it's pretty hard to blow the engine compared to others like civics and integra ls's. and the JRSC for the prelude is the best SC jackson racing makes. as for the tranny, yeah you would be better off with a manual. i've also heard of horror stories regarding honda automatics, but they make some of best manual transmissions out there. i can't tell you much about hte tranny, i'm not as familiar with the SS auto. it all depends on what you want. it ain't impossible to put FI on the SS by any means. turbogenics is also said to make a good turbo kit for the prelude.

you can wait to see if the nissan comes and stay with i/h/e and that stuff on the lude that's good enough for a daily driver in the city. that's what i would do. i have refrained from going too serious with my car, as in any form of FI, merely coz it is my daily driver. when i can afford a second car to use as my daily driver, then i'm all for turbocharging my lude. with the i/h/e you can probably get 10-12 additional hp max. the stock header is already very well designed. pulleys, cams, gears, perhaps another 15. hope this helps.

[flylwsi]

well...
my ex has a 5gen with the ss auto in it, and she has cams, ihe, and comp work, and it's hella fast to a point... i dont have times, but it feels quick... but my 3gen still catches her at 100 b/c i have a stick, so i can stretch it more...

there was a turbo auto 5gen on superhonda.org i think, it was chameleon with z3 fenders, different front end, new hood, stock rims... running 13s with his turbo... i think it was a drag kit... so you can get quick....

the other fun thought to consider is keeping the auto and getting the trans built, b/c there is nothing more consistent on the strip than a built auto trans... it just sucks for any other spirited driving, i'd rather have a stick... but if it is all straight line, i'd rather just pin the pedal and go and let my built trans handle the hard part...

or....

you could convert to stick after you go turbo... spend the money, it's fun....

[PMPExR]

One thing about turboing a Honda with an automatic transmission that you have to remeber is the compression ratio. The compression ratio is very low and your car will not respond to forced induction as well as a manual transmission with a higher compression ratio. Secondly, the way honda makes there transmissions is totally opposite than any other company. Honda first builds a manual transmission. Once they master that transmission they modify it into an automatic transmission. Thats why Hondas auto trannys suck. Other company build the auto tranny first, perfect it to their standards and than make a manual transmission. This way is more efficient way to make trannies but I guess Honda prides themselves in making an amazing bulletproof manual transmission.

All in all I wouls stay with the i/h/e for your setup.

[fritz_269]

IMO, FI is definitely the best bang for the buck. Wait to see what the Greddy kit looks like (I believe that they just started shipping), and compare it in price and quality to the other turbo kits and the JRSC. Keep the boost mild (less than 6psi or so), make sure you have good engine management, get a competent dyno tune, and don't do anything stupid like neutral dropping. Contact Level10 ( http://www.levelten.com/ ) about a new torque converter made to your specs and ask them if there are any further mods they recommend for your tranny, such as a transmission fluid cooler. I'd also suggest that you change your tranny fluid with Honda ATF 2x as often as the manual recommends. IMHO, you should be able to run that just fine on a daily driver without any further engine or tranny mods for a good long while.

PMPExR - The static compression ratio is exactly the same on the MT and AT H22A engines. Also, I can't see any way that the AT design could be based on the MT design. Mainly, the AT uses three gear shafts instead of two - that right there is a radical difference in design. The AT also has four gears (not five), four hydraulic clutches, a torque converter, and a completely different housing; in fact, I'd be hard pressed to think of any part they have in common.