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12-16-2003, 02:31 PM
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What makes this a drift car????
Id like to know what makes this car a drift car. Everytime i think of drift, or see a drift vid, silvia's are all over the place. Also, id like to know how much hp he engine and tranny can handle stock. Whats the weight of the car? thnx
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#2
12-16-2003, 02:35 PM
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Re: What makes this a drift car????
because it just happen to be rear wheel drive and have a decent length of wheelbase. Its compact, and they are everywhere. Also not too many manufacters makes RWD sport compact anymore.
So that's why u see all S-chassis around the scene. About the engine and tranny. Stock KA bottom end did go up to close to 400rwhp daily proven! And Stock SR bottom end went up close to 550rwhp(enjukuracing and secret services are the pioneers). Tranny is good up to 400ish hp. Weight is all vary depends on models and years. in bettween 2600 to 2800 lbs (talking about full interior here).
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#3
12-16-2003, 04:01 PM
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Re: What makes this a drift car????
the easy answer?
it's readily available in japan with a high hp turbo motor. great weight distribution (well, not great, but pretty good at the least)... you can ask the same question in the treuno forum as well... you'll find similar answers about the power/weight ratio, steering, pricing...
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#4
12-16-2003, 04:07 PM
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Re: What makes this a drift car????
I don't think power is a matter at all, don't care much about power/weight ratio either, because it isn't all the great.
with decent suspension, and a good LSD. You can still drift the hell out of a 240sx even with stock KA. of course, a good driver. check out this site http://www.club4ag.com/
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12-16-2003, 07:16 PM
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Depends on what type of drift you're talking about...a power-over or power-slide requires quite a bit of power depending on how much traction your rear wheels are capable of (are you using shitty bald tires or good tires on all four corners?) and the weight...
If you did are talking about one of the many others...than I would agree...though on a small track more speed entering the corner helps and acceleration helps for the short straights...larger tracks or single corner drifts don't really depend on power except for the aforementioned type of drifting. There are several other decent drift cars offered in america...including (but not limited to) the mr2, IS300 (altezza in japan), and rx7.
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#7
12-16-2003, 11:40 PM
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Re: What makes this a drift car????
man, you really don't know what u are talking about.. how often u drift anyway?
I have 4 yokohama AVS all around, they are not bald, and they bite damn good.. I have NA KA, I still able to kick the rear end out by just jabbing the throttle. And I do have full tuned suspensions. Even underpower car like the 86 or Miata, all they have to do is kick clutch to upset the rear... so power ISN'T a factor... u really don't need big power to keep the slide either. Good LSD and long wheelbase is the key. have u seen Ueo kicks everyone ass on D1 GP?? he is the 2003 champion.. and the runner-up in 2002 season.. all he has is probably 150hpMax 4AGE. and in Freshalloy, the moderator Alex enter multipul Drift Day in this year, and he finish on the top list, and all he has is stock KA, he even has open diff. before he just recently put in his Kaaz 1.5way.
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#8
12-17-2003, 12:43 AM
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Re: Re: What makes this a drift car????
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"jabbing" the throttle and "kicking" the clutch aren't power over drifting...so I don't see what that proves...I agreed with you that most other types of drifting require no more hp than the stock setup delivers. A power over is when you sustain the throttle through the majority of the turn using the gas alone to make the car go sideways. The more power you have to spin the wheels, the faster you can be going and still induce a power slide. You can probably do a power over with the stock hp output, but the difference is how hard the engine is working to make sure those tires stay spinning. A bit more HP would make the drift look cleaner and more forgiving for less experienced drivers. I reccomend you check up on the various types of drifting since even though you may know how to drift, you don't seem to know the different styles and ways to induce and sustain a controlled slide.
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#9
12-17-2003, 12:55 AM
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Re: What makes this a drift car????
pufffffffffffffs, please~
and telling me jabbing the throttle is not powerover, did I said I jab it and let go? and I never say clutch kicking is power over. man, screw the concept, just go sideway and get crunk. weight transfer(braking),ebrakes,clutch kicking, and power-over.. I can handle all of them. The only problem i have is clutch kicking since the J30 lsd doesn't kick in fast enough, so the line is not consistence. And other way to indue drift that I can't able to do is feint(sway) since I can't find any spot which is large and flat enough for it yet. and please LOL thanks for you advice, but I recommend u to go out and try a few too instead of trying to tell people how to drift. Go out and have fun .
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#11
12-17-2003, 10:14 AM
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Im a dragster...so basically dont know much about drifting, but it looks interesting...
anyway, i also always see drift cars with large wheels, about 18-20 looks like. In drag racing, 16's are prolly the best...In drifting, is it the larger, the better?
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#12
12-17-2003, 10:26 AM
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Re: What makes this a drift car????
nope... its a helluva harder to drift large diameter wheel.. its just a recent trend. Old school only use 13, 14 or 15 inch wheels, have it really wide wheel and smaller tires to stretch the sidewall, so the sidewall won't flex much. But lately 17, 18, and even 19s are being use in the so called "drift scene".. but it a lot harder to predict and control.... of course, those tires are more expensive too.
anyway, back to the lsd question. 2-way isn't the best, maybe you heard that from Gran Turismo or something.. but 1.5 way means it locks both wheels when its accelerate and turning.. 2way locks when its acc, turning, and braking. There really isn't telling which one is better, IMO as long as it is clutch type, it grabs fast enough, then it is good. i know because viscous lsd is kinda slow sometime. one bad thing about 2way lsd is they eat up the tires quick!!
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#13
12-17-2003, 11:15 AM
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Re: Re: What makes this a drift car????
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And I will try it once I get a beater car to go along with the good car I'm getting...and it's snowing here right now so I don't really see the point of leaving my fwd shitbox since it handles the snow better than a 240... 
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#14
12-17-2003, 12:14 PM
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Re: What makes this a drift car????
I really dont' care what's a dynamic drift, I know I can drift at least 2 to 3 turn continuously. but I am still working on it.
I am not trying to start an argument, but seems to me you never tried since u said you will try once you get a beater car.. but i think if you never tried, or able to do it, I wouldn't trying to prove someone is wrong by just talking about those concepts. but I really don't give a damn what those concept stands for, so you really don't have to waste you time trying to feed those thoery into my head  But its cool man, don't get upset, I just try to get to my point. How about you show us your 240sx??
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#15
12-17-2003, 12:19 PM
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I guess you don't understand how to read...that's cool though...
I'm not the one who started the argument...you did when you told me I don't know what I'm talking about...now you are trying to change the subject since you are actually the one who doesn't know what he's talking about... Last post, If you have anything more to say...send it in a pm...since I won't be looking at this thread anymore.
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