h22 turbo crx vs spyder eclipse gst

[SpyderEclipseGst]

Took place in arizona,saturday illegals on the south side. You know how things so. Meet up at the ol circle k n such. talk abit and head out to the racing spot. Most the time few people race. At this time its been about 20 mins and no one is racing. Well most of the crowd was talkin about my spyder (new paint job, just got it tuned pretty well). When a few people start talkin about a turboed crx thats supposed to be quick. So i walk up to the group of guys there to see whats up with the rex. Guy says just installed anew motor h22 with intake,headers,pistons, exhaust, front mount with ol turbo. I asked if he had takin it to the track yet. He replied no not yet but will soon. I give him props on his set up along with my boys number to hook it up with a paint job(most crx's /hatches around here are primered. Then he asks me what im runnin, as we head over to my car. I tell him just bolt ons (intake,exhaust,boost controller set at 16 psi, stock turbo,down pipe with exhaust 3 in, inner cooler pipes upper and lower, greddy type s bov, 255 fuel pump. Then after along look at the cars people are suggesting we race. I look over at the guy like im game, he gives me the same look. So we agree to line up and get the races started. Few fast cars her other than us camaro ss, evo 8, a wrx, svt cobra mustang which i asked to race earlyer but no go. I was like itll be close or you should win im runnin with 18's. still no go. Anyways back to the line up. me to the right rex to the left. rex spinning tires, me letting my bov go crazy after alittle warming of the nittos. Then we get rdy for the take off. At launch I chirp my tires on a 2500 rpm take off getting good traction right away with the rex doing alittle more peeling out than I. By the end of 1st gear I pull slightly, shift into second gear and about 50 mph I notice th rex pulling on side of me. Im going about 70mph and the rex is pulling on me im to his back bumper at this point. my the time I switch to 3rd gear 90mph hes got a 1 1/2 car on me, then the crx breaks it as do I. We both head back to give props on a good race. I was very impressed. I got pulled on in my best gear. I didnt even need to run another i pretty much did everything right(shifting etc). I just accepted defeat and gave the driver a thumbs up. I went back to park to let the clutch cool. Everyone giving props to the rex as do I. After that race I decide to call it a night accepting that there are a few choise hondas out there that can hang with the rest of em.

[esp]

sounds like a very good race, should have been close just like u said. eclipses are fast out of the box with a few mods, however i believe that a turbo h22 in a crx would be just as fast and possibly a little faster, all in all sounded like a good race, and glad to hear that there are other people out there that are happy to accept defeat sometimes. good job on the race even though u got beat. nice story!!

[BLU CIVIC]

nice story.....

glad not to hear "my clutch is slippin', u started b4 i did, my rims are bigger, blah blah blah..."

[civicHBsi91]

a crx with an h22 alone should have taken you

either its total b/s cuz its hard to fit a h22 into a crx let alone and damn near impossible with a turbo and how does he have "headers" if he has a turbo?

i dont see anyway how it could be a real story your still running stock turbo, your car looks very heavy and or it wasent an h22 cuz no doubt an h22 in a crx with good driver could easily beat you

[banditkiller]

HAHA a crx with an h22 alone should be running low 13's with trax, easily......although eclipse's can run 19 psi on a stock turbo. Maybe he meant the h22 was s/c? Hmm....maybe would explain headers... or this is just another false tail?

[maxspeedhonda]

Thank god some other people called bs. This is quite possibley one of the most made of things I have ever heard. Ok the crx, lets say this guy crammed a turbo h22a motor in a crx chassis (which ins't an easy thing to do) he would have ripped you a new one easily despite the rims etc. Yes a stock gst or gsx can run 19 psi out of the box. The motor has a lower CR. I have beat many on just 10psi on 10:1 CR. An h22a is enough to beat you by itself, look at the numbers vs weight! Oh and all those other cars you list, every single one of them would have handed you your ass as well. You WANTED to race a Cobra, do you LIKE losing races? I know 2 fast 2 furious just came out in the stores but give us a freakin break!

[banditkiller]

[quote] Oh and all those other cars you list, every single one of them would have handed you your ass as well. You WANTED to race a Cobra, do you LIKE losing races?[quote]

[maxspeedhonda]

Also just to add, a stock gst runs a 15.3 with a pro driver. Ok lets facter a less than professional driver and 18 inch crome looking rims. Now what you have is closer to 16 flat high 15's at best. Ok your "mods" arent really performance mods at all. An intake on your turbo, WTF. A BOV and fuel pump, riiight. The only thing that would be considered a mod is a GOOD boost controller and the exhaust. The stock exhaust flows well for the stock turbo. So we give you the benifit of the doubt and put you back at 15.3, like states before a crx with just an h22a will pull 13's, with turbo tuned right and some stickies it could see some 11's. All in all your story is a load of shit.

[SpyderEclipseGst]

Originally Posted by maxspeedhonda

Also just to add, a stock gst runs a 15.3 with a pro driver. Ok lets facter a less than professional driver and 18 inch crome looking rims. Now what you have is closer to 16 flat high 15's at best. Ok your "mods" arent really performance mods at all. An intake on your turbo, WTF. A BOV and fuel pump, riiight. The only thing that would be considered a mod is a GOOD boost controller and the exhaust. The stock exhaust flows well for the stock turbo. So we give you the benifit of the doubt and put you back at 15.3, like states before a crx with just an h22a will pull 13's, with turbo tuned right and some stickies it could see some 11's. All in all your story is a load of shit.

Put the Red Flag, Bs flag is ok too. Just alittle re direction here it goes.
Check out Dsmtuners.com. check out the 1/4 times of bolt on modded gst's. Fuel pump is required for more than 14 psi or fuel cut comes to play. Intake on my turbo? Hmm for restarters intake connects to the turbo itself. Take alook inside a 4g63t engine and see for yourself. All my mods aint performance? I/C piping quicker spool up. You wouldent know cause you probably never had to deal with a turbo. Intake has a hell of alot to do with hp gains. Lol, pick up the latest issue of IMPORT TUNER. The Eclipse went from 190hp to almost 300hp with 3 BOLT ONS. Your times are way off and you should go back to SCHOOL.Im not even going to tell you what times they list. Thats for you the BS callers to learn alittle somthing on this one. As for the the h22 had. yeah its turbo, yeah the rex couldent make a hard turn(engine alittle crowded). never ownd a honda in my life. I actually went to college and graduated to be able to afford something alittle more sporty/faster. But why the hell would I tell a story, get beat, then tell you about it. Damn id be the stupidest mutha phucka around. Come to the eclipse forums and post your 15.3 remarks for any of the mods listed. And youd be getting the same harrassment. But im optimistic about this. Wouldent post a BS story and loose and lie. Yeah i got 18's (alba wolverines), help keep my tires on the groud at high speeds. Like I said before, some hondas can hang with the rest of em. Most h22's cant hang with any slightly modded gst's or gsx. You say h22s run 13's. bah any dsm with a 1k turbo upgrade can run a 13. shit not even that. With my mods, alittle dyno tuning, sticky tires i should hit the mid to high 13's. THIS IS ALL CREDABLE. Again check dsmtuner.com or just post a thread in the eclipse forum. Call me out, get some responces and then PM me. Ill take whatever you got to say. Mine just happens to be a spyder with 18's for a reason(looks slow, aint slow). Read the 1/4 mile times all day long in the eclipse or dsmtuner forums. We dont even tell about honda kills, wouldent be a fun story to tell. Cause most of em end up loosing from 1st chirp of the tires.

[SpyderEclipseGst]

Originally Posted by civicHBsi91

a crx with an h22 alone should have taken you

either its total b/s cuz its hard to fit a h22 into a crx let alone and damn near impossible with a turbo and how does he have "headers" if he has a turbo?

i dont see anyway how it could be a real story your still running stock turbo, your car looks very heavy and or it wasent an h22 cuz no doubt an h22 in a crx with good driver could easily beat you

Hard to fit a h22 in a crx. Yeah it is true, not much turning going on there. But where i come from. Most ppl i talk to have real jobs. been to college. The guy with the h22 happend to be an older guy. which he problably had money unlike most honda tuners. My stock turbo with 16 psi with all my mods check into the 13's easily. Do your reserch before you go layin the bs flag chump!

[SpyderEclipseGst]

Originally Posted by maxspeedhonda

Thank god some other people called bs. This is quite possibley one of the most made of things I have ever heard. Ok the crx, lets say this guy crammed a turbo h22a motor in a crx chassis (which ins't an easy thing to do) he would have ripped you a new one easily despite the rims etc. Yes a stock gst or gsx can run 19 psi out of the box. The motor has a lower CR. I have beat many on just 10psi on 10:1 CR. An h22a is enough to beat you by itself, look at the numbers vs weight! Oh and all those other cars you list, every single one of them would have handed you your ass as well. You WANTED to race a Cobra, do you LIKE losing races? I know 2 fast 2 furious just came out in the stores but give us a freakin break!

Ok ive raced my fair share of turboed hondas around my parts. This happend to be my only loss. an h22 crx could reach the 13's i agree. He had a 1 1/2 car length on me at 90 mph. Yeah i got 18's. take them off and tune my car $80. Ill be hitting the 13's too. NO you say? Damn must I say it again. Check the damn eclipse forums dsmtalk/dsmtuners check under performane. boom every eclipse with my mods deep into the 13's. I cant prove thats even my car? or have those mods? You live in arizona ill be glad to meet up at the ol illegals/track and give you an ol taste of the slow/ heavy/ likes loosing races spyder eclipse.
Cobra? i loose the race? ive seen some cobras hit low 15's/high 14's. Thats why i chose to ask the man. Ill run just about anyone whos legit competition. Im not a stop light reving, get the lead, ricer fly by pussy. I actually like a challenge and if its a good kill/death i will tell.My weight to hp ratio is not that bad. actually I get good ass traction for a gst with the 225/40/18 nittos.

[KrNxRaCer00]

ok ok, i don't like to call bs, but u urself are discrediting urself.

u say that u are capable of 13's?

well thats wut an h22 ALONE in a crx will do.

add a turbo to that and he's down into the 12's.

maybe the guy couldn't drive his car right, or maybe he jus messed up, BUT the fact is he should have beaten u by more.

i'll take ur word for it sense none of us were there..

[carrrnuttt]

Originally Posted by maxspeedhonda

Also just to add, a stock gst runs a 15.3 with a pro driver. Ok lets facter a less than professional driver and 18 inch crome looking rims. Now what you have is closer to 16 flat high 15's at best. Ok your "mods" arent really performance mods at all. An intake on your turbo, WTF. A BOV and fuel pump, riiight. The only thing that would be considered a mod is a GOOD boost controller and the exhaust. The stock exhaust flows well for the stock turbo. So we give you the benifit of the doubt and put you back at 15.3, like states before a crx with just an h22a will pull 13's, with turbo tuned right and some stickies it could see some 11's. All in all your story is a load of shit.

Should'a, could'a, would'a...WTF?

Anything can happen anywhere. I personally saw a turbo-b18 Civic coupe run a 16.1 at Speedworld here in Phoenix.

I also used to work at a local shop here in Phoenix, and had a kid who looked no more than 17 brag to me about his B20-VTEC he paid 8-large for. I saw it myself when he popped the hood for me. You know what he got at the the track? 15.9.

At the same time, I saw a 2001 Civic LX (YES, LX, not EX or Si, LX), with just I/H/E and rear-seat/spare taken out, run a best of 15.66 at the same Speedworld track where the turbo-Civic ran in the 16's.

So, unless you were there, sitting in either car...especially in the other, vehicle (the CRX in this case), shut your trap about your theories, and possibilities. For all you know, dude dropped a cigarette on his freaking lap.

And YES, turbo-cars HAVE a header...a turbo-specific one, or turbo-manifold as they call it (a header IS a manifold). They sell them at my friend's shop, want his shop's number?

[BLU CIVIC]

Originally Posted by SpyderEclipseGst

Guy says just installed anew motor h22 with intake,headers,pistons, exhaust, front mount with ol turbo. I asked if he had takin it to the track yet. He replied no not yet but will soon.

not everyone know how to drive with a new motor out of the box.....and this isn't a pro race where people have been drivin for 20 yrs.....it is the street....and as everyone knows and have mentioned, everything changes on the street.....and why would he post a lost and lie about it......come on people.....common sense

[SpyderEclipseGst]

Originally Posted by KrNxRaCer00

ok ok, i don't like to call bs, but u urself are discrediting urself.

u say that u are capable of 13's?

well thats wut an h22 ALONE in a crx will do.

add a turbo to that and he's down into the 12's.

maybe the guy couldn't drive his car right, or maybe he jus messed up, BUT the fact is he should have beaten u by more.

i'll take ur word for it sense none of us were there..

Are you phucking shitting me..! h22 can run a 13 alone. every single one of them? Damn I hate talking to morons who dont know there shit. Just because you probbly own a honda and cant damn afford a h22 engine. Get off its nuts! I know they come in preludes. Which ive raced my fair share of. I could start in 2nd gear and walk em all day long. Turbo h22's run into the 12's? dude a 1st gen talon/eclipse with all bolt ons hit the 12's. Ohh didnt know that? Didnt know all h22's dont run 13's. I say put down the keys, get a book, and start learning alittle something!