Hondata ?'s

[MXrider22]

What is it, what does it do, how much does it cost, whats involved in getting it tuned and installed... also how much it will cost ALL-TOGETHER, the cost to buy it, have it installed and tuned... and im looking at the S200 with boost so its 500$ another thing what all do i have to do to make it work with an H23 (92 prelude si)

[billab2ong]

good questions. here we go.
if you plan on tuning it yourself at all, buy the s200b. but if you arent planning on tuning it...s100b(b=boost)....now that we have that covered...we shall continue. hondata is a chip that plugs into your ECU which controlls your ECU and over rides certain function. its main functions are fuel management at the different rpms and timing. fuel management allows you to get the proper amount of fuel at every second while boosting which will keep you from blowing your engine. also timing allows the engine to have all the moving parts moving at the correct time. the honda cars arent made for 200-250whp so these things are necessary...why do people suggest hondata? because its cheaper than AEM and you can have it professionally tuned for not that much money.

cost should be around $400-$450 for the unit. check your ecu...it has to be ODBI to run hondata or you have to buy a harness...i dont know what years ODBI is...sorry. tuning should be $250 at most.

install is super basic...its really just plugging the unit into your ECU...really really simple. any moron can do it.

if you buy your hondata from www.ks-motorsports.com they will burn you a base map onto your hondata that will work with your current settings. it wont be perfect and the fuel may be rich or lean at certain RPMs but you can drive on this and boost occassionally without going out ASAP and paying for tuning. I think i got everything...umm www.hondata.com lists offical hondata tuners but lots of people know this system because it works so well with 5-25psi...

[MXrider22]

Thank you so much, that was a great explanation, i understood everything, really cleared everything up thanx dude

[MXrider22]

by the way, would Hondata make a difference if you werent boosting at all? but were gong the all motor route, all motor daily driven i meen, not straight up race car. If so... how much

[billab2ong]

its not at vital as it is to a turbo engine but is very helpful. you have to be past bolt ons for it really to be necessary...but if you were on a fully built high compression motor i would also probably suggest hondata or if you have $1300...an AEM EMS...but most of the time hondata isnt as essential to N/A as it is to a FI vehicle

btw...im custom fabricating my turbo system.....manifold...IC piping, charge piping, full exhaust system...should be interesting since i cant weld....i guess i will have to learn...

[MXrider22]

What kind of welding you pln on doing... wire feed, tig, or stick... From personal experience wire feed is obviously the easiest... tig is almost an artform, and stick just needs some teaching but isnt quite as hard as stick... my advice... if you can get ahold of a wire feed welder, do it. Just put the wire on the metal pull the trigger and keep it smooth

[MXrider22]

If i went all motor, i would buy the Gude racing package, but ive heard good things and bad thing about it... good being that it adds like 50hp, bad being that the drivability kinda sux, would the Hondata help with the drivability of the gude raving package?

[MXrider22]

Originally Posted by MXrider22

If i went all motor, i would buy the Gude racing package, but ive heard good things and bad thing about it... good being that it adds like 50hp, bad being that the drivability kinda sux, would the Hondata help with the drivability of the gude raving package?

racing not raving... but heres the package im talking about http://www.mmrusa.com/gudehead.htm

[Import_fantasy]

if the Hondata is mainly for fuel management then does is basically do the same job as the APEXi S-AFC? And does the Hondata have any controls for tuning the timing of the VTEC like the APEXi V-AFC?

[whtteg]

Originally Posted by Import_fantasy

if the Hondata is mainly for fuel management then does is basically do the same job as the APEXi S-AFC? And does the Hondata have any controls for tuning the timing of the VTEC like the APEXi V-AFC?

Yes it can change the vtec engaugment, make the check engine light function like a shift light, It can do just about anything check it out www.hondata.com

[boosted331]

Originally Posted by Import_fantasy

if the Hondata is mainly for fuel management then does is basically do the same job as the APEXi S-AFC? And does the Hondata have any controls for tuning the timing of the VTEC like the APEXi V-AFC?

VAFC = adjusts fuel in big gaps and adjusts VTEC xover
Hondata = adjusts fuel precisely and adjusts TIMING, adjusts vtec, can be used to control nitrous, etc.

vafc is very basic hondata is much more indepth and feature packed.

[megotgsr]

i got a hondata es200 for my b18c1 and gained 33hp to the wheel (n/a)w/out nos.
You can also set up a luanch controller w/ hondata. Plus you can set nos to ingauge when ever you wAnt instead of full throttle or flipping a switch. for example my nos is set up to come on at 35 mph so right when i shift to 2ng gear it sprays.

[MXrider22]

How do you gain 30hp to the wheel with JUST the hondata... i meen does a quality tune really make THAT big of a difference? or did you add something else with the hondata that helped you gain so much. I ask becasue is it worth it to get a hondata if you currently have a NA motor but down the road are planning on going NOS... and then get it retuned when you get the nos... but in the meen time, would the hondata be worth it on a mildly modified NA motor (i/e/h/ headwork upgrade fuel system like injectors pump n regulator)???? would it make a big diference

[BatteriesOrWindup]

best thing you can do with an honda is to give it the junk yard and buy your self a domestic if you keep your toy you might as well

[MXrider22]

do you feel better now, more manly since you got that off your chest (or out your ass)... im glad we were able to entertain you for the brief amount of time your attention span will hold, now if you'll excuse us, people with a triple digit IQ need to talk now... thanx bye now