b16 or boost the zc

[caminsc5]

ok, my work is laying off and i am getting a severance package, so all together i will have a few grand to spend. heres the question.

i have a 89 crx si w/ dohc zc.......should i take the money and boost the zc? (only had it a cpl months) or should i take the money and get a b16? or any other suggestions?

[dirty91crx]

i just finished boosting my car....IMO boost the zc....i like it alot better than my old b16....at 215whp outta my b16 i had slight traction issues....with the turbo d15 i have mad traction issues...i can only imagine its potential when im on slicks...

[caminsc5]

what kit did u use and what was the cost for labor etc..

[Kunundrum]

boost a B16 like me !

[caminsc5]

hey im not rich here lol jk

[Kunundrum]

you can boost your ZC... I was originaly going to do that but then Blew my tranny.

Cost you can make a Kit for less than 2g's or you can buy the greddy 92-65 civic kit and modify it like CWBETH(sp?) Did.

[caminsc5]

my zc tranny just went out and had to have another put one. im hopefully gonna get my old one and have it rebuilt.

i dont have much knowledge on turbos, would it be better to buy a kit or piece on together?

how much would it cost to install a turbo?

what type of fuel, ignition upgrades would i need?

[Kunundrum]

well

Turbo -- t25 off a 95-99 eclispe is a good turbo to get -- cost no more than 400$
Manifold -- Use a HF manifold with an adapto plate, 30-100$ for the manifold and 55-100$ for the adaptor plate.
Downpipe -- depends on the muffler shop you use or build your own.
Piping -- depends on materials I'm gonna use 2 1/2" Exaust pipe and paint it.
BOV -- depends on the one you get... I'm looking at getting a nice Blitz unit or something allong those lines -- 20-500$
intercooler -- Optional-- but one that works rather well is the starion intercooler with some slight modifications makes for a very functiona and show-off peice price starting at 100$
Fuel-- get a Fuel Pressure Regualtor and a Air Fuel Guage and try to set it with the FPR so you avoid a lean condition if you are unable to acheive this use of bigger injectors may be required.
spark -- the stock Honda Ignition should be more than adequate at sparking the boosted motor... upgrade in sparkplugs is a good idea some Iridium plugs or the Zex ones are some to keep into consideration.
check vavle --- 5$ at local pet store OR get Chip for ECU to avoid the Map sensor going off because of Boost.
Welding return line into oil pan -- 20$
Pipes and FIttings for Oil lines -- depends
... that's about it...

[dirty91crx]

Turbo -- t25 off a 95-99 eclispe is a good turbo to get -- cost no more than 400$
Manifold -- Use a HF manifold with an adapto plate, 30-100$ for the manifold and 55-100$ for the adaptor plate.
Downpipe -- depends on the muffler shop you use or build your own.
Piping -- depends on materials I'm gonna use 2 1/2" Exaust pipe and paint it.
BOV -- depends on the one you get... I'm looking at getting a nice Blitz unit or something allong those lines -- 20-500$
intercooler -- Optional-- but one that works rather well is the starion intercooler with some slight modifications makes for a very functiona and show-off peice price starting at 100$
Fuel-- get a Fuel Pressure Regualtor and a Air Fuel Guage and try to set it with the FPR so you avoid a lean condition if you are unable to acheive this use of bigger injectors may be required.
spark -- the stock Honda Ignition should be more than adequate at sparking the boosted motor... upgrade in sparkplugs is a good idea some Iridium plugs or the Zex ones are some to keep into consideration.
check vavle --- 5$ at local pet store OR get Chip for ECU to avoid the Map sensor going off because of Boost.
Welding return line into oil pan -- 20$
Pipes and FIttings for Oil lines -- depends
... that's about it...


good god you got a price list there....my kit cost me no more than $350 although i do not have an intercooler...i still have parts on order but its still roughly $350 for my kit. you just need to find deals here and there. if you wanna go turbo check out http://www.homemadeturbo.com they can help you out on how to peice a junkyard set up together and what all you will need to do so...they helped me quiet a bit and i say there very good at what they do!

[caminsc5]

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i read somewhere (they used the greddy turbo on a dohc zc, set at 6 psi) was only making like 160-166 hp.....is this right? bc for that much money & lil boost, id rather have a b16 and turbo that later on.

[Aaron91ef9]

Originally Posted by caminsc5

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i read somewhere (they used the greddy turbo on a dohc zc, set at 6 psi) was only making like 160-166 hp.....is this right? bc for that much money & lil boost, id rather have a b16 and turbo that later on.

Thats what im doing with my car. I have a ZC and I got a front clip and im going to turbo the b16 in awhile after i get the money and stuff. I wouldnt go with the Greddy kits no matter what engine you use. Of course, 6 psi is safer than 8 or 12 psi. I have seen the drag kits claim 250 whp out of a b16 at 7 psi. 7 psi should be ok for stock internals too. Go with the b16 and turbo later.

[caminsc5]

well i called a shop today about the b16 swap, and he said everything for about $2,700 (installed)....and i told him i had a zc and he was telling me i should just turbo the zc and dont worry about the b16 bc a turbo zc would blow a b16 outta the water.

[caminsc5]

well i just got another zc tranny, the one i got with the zc swap went to shyt in like a month

[95civicman]

do yourself a favor and replace the rods with forged ones and replace the rod bearing with new ones before you put a turbo on it. zc rods are just too weak to take chances on. then you could run around 8-10 psi safely.(with the right fuel,ignition, and tuning)

[caminsc5]

how would a turbo zc fair against most cars?

couldnt i just do a b16, then a "cheap" turbo later? the stock internals on a b16 would stand up better to a turbo, than the zc internals

or what about an ls/vtec?...turbo later