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08-19-2003, 02:18 AM
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help me decide!
Heres my situation...
I am an eighteen year old. I have a 2000 svt contour, its supercharged, got about 300hp. Its a really fun car to drive but ive had nothing but problems with it and have decided that im going to sell it. Since the value has dropped so much on it, im only going to have about 8 or 9 grand to spend on my next car. I plan to get a car that is stock with maybe some nice wheels on it or something. I plan to invest about an extra 5 grand on a turbo for the car and some other mods to make it perform like my contour. Reliability is a big issue. I want a lot of torque on tap and I would like it to be light weight (gas mileage). Ive been thinking maybe a 200sx se-r, integra gs-r, or maybe a civic si. Anybody out there got any ideas or experience with any of these cars? I would appreciate it. 
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#2
08-19-2003, 03:01 AM
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 300hp?
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......or if your a loser who drives a Civic with a type R sticker, racing stripes, blasting really bad rap music through your suburban area with your pretentious "I’m 21 but I’m still in high school girlfriend" while driving with your hand up on the top of the steering wheel exposing your underdeveloped pasty white vitamin deficient arm and wearing your backwards BS upside down visor hat while feeling the tacky as a "Florida vacation" single diamond earring in your ear, If you are this person...with any luck the sun in its precise celestial positioning as you putter on by...will reflect its scorching rays into your earring, bouncing intensely in your rearview, and finally making contact with your eyes through the thin cheap lense of $5 gas station Oakley rip off glasses.. then burning your retnal cones into smoldering melting gobs of ocular material as you are blinded by the purest form of energy in our known universe, and as you scream no one can help or hear you because they don’t know what’s going on since the weed whacker sound of your shitty tiny little muffler which makes the Civic sound like a 747 rages on underneath making everyone turn at disgust and comment to thier husbands or wives how much of a dickweed you are by attaching that automotive abnormality to your stock economical daily driver engineered by Japanese Automotive specialists to fit the needs for entry level business workers in their early 30's, however your pathetic looking $11,000 car which you want to look like a friggin spaceship with redundant ground effects is now out of control since you are blinded, and as your car plunges off the side of a cliff while you scream in the purest form of terror while knowing you have lived a horrid excuse for a life, by doing the bare minimum in every facet of existence, while getting fired from one pathetic job to another, the majority of your time spent slacking smoking dope, getting kicked out of school, polishing your "game" on sweet innocent underage girls you eventually 'de flower' through exhaustive yet succesful attempts to get the date rapist drugs you have stashed in the glove compartment, into your poor victims drinks while offering them to take the "Pepsi Challenge" while making your mother hate you, and your poor father who wishes he had a daughter instead of your pathetic ass, since a girl would be more of a man than you ever were, like the occasion when you were hit in the arm by a wild pitch in little league, then you cried like a fat kid who dropped his ice cream cone, I'm already envisioning you impacting the rocks below, in a spectacular fireball ignited from the residue hairspray from your girlfriend plastered in the fabric passenger seat, blinded by your earring, deafened by the loud "Bling Blingin", and I will smile and roll around on the ground in orgasmic delight while you are consumed by flames whose intense heat and fury will liquefy your bone marrow that I will use to make jelly beans out of and eat them happily at your funeral as midgets dressed like Alex 6005321 from "A Clockwork Orange" dance around your coffin to loud industrial style techno music and strobe lights, and I will sleep soundly at night knowing another successful conquest of Darwinism has been attained.
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#3
08-19-2003, 03:32 AM
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Got Pics, what SC kit is it (guessing vortech based on the 300 hp claim). If this is truely so I might have a friend that would be could be interested. In respone to your question all 3 of those cars are pretty decent in terms of reliability, and each have fairly large aftermarket support with the exception of the 200sx se-r.
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#4
08-19-2003, 04:06 AM
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Re: help me decide!
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From a 4 cylinder?  If you want a lot of torque on tap, you need a V8. You'll have a heck of a time getting torque out of small 4 cylinder like a GSR and what not.
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#5
08-19-2003, 11:11 AM
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Re: help me decide!
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 ?The 200SX SE-R has the same motor my Sentra has...SR20DE. Not as large an aftermarket as Honda, of course, but it's got PLENTY of support, trust me. As for the noob, go to the sticky thread at the top of the Street Racing forum.
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#6
08-19-2003, 11:46 AM
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I know a good deal about the SR20, almost bought an se-r
 . All I was saying is that its easier to find parts for the other two due to their popularity.
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#8
08-19-2003, 10:17 PM
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http://www.autotrader.com/findacar/v...lor=&cardist=0
thats the link to my ad on autotrader to anybody who doesnt believe me or might be interested.
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#9
08-20-2003, 12:33 AM
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Simmer down now, no need to get out of hand. Most of the time people post hp claims that are obviously not true, thus the bs flag. All you needed to do was post some pictures/further information. Lots of time on my hands? no, wish I did though.
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......or if your a loser who drives a Civic with a type R sticker, racing stripes, blasting really bad rap music through your suburban area with your pretentious "I’m 21 but I’m still in high school girlfriend" while driving with your hand up on the top of the steering wheel exposing your underdeveloped pasty white vitamin deficient arm and wearing your backwards BS upside down visor hat while feeling the tacky as a "Florida vacation" single diamond earring in your ear, If you are this person...with any luck the sun in its precise celestial positioning as you putter on by...will reflect its scorching rays into your earring, bouncing intensely in your rearview, and finally making contact with your eyes through the thin cheap lense of $5 gas station Oakley rip off glasses.. then burning your retnal cones into smoldering melting gobs of ocular material as you are blinded by the purest form of energy in our known universe, and as you scream no one can help or hear you because they don’t know what’s going on since the weed whacker sound of your shitty tiny little muffler which makes the Civic sound like a 747 rages on underneath making everyone turn at disgust and comment to thier husbands or wives how much of a dickweed you are by attaching that automotive abnormality to your stock economical daily driver engineered by Japanese Automotive specialists to fit the needs for entry level business workers in their early 30's, however your pathetic looking $11,000 car which you want to look like a friggin spaceship with redundant ground effects is now out of control since you are blinded, and as your car plunges off the side of a cliff while you scream in the purest form of terror while knowing you have lived a horrid excuse for a life, by doing the bare minimum in every facet of existence, while getting fired from one pathetic job to another, the majority of your time spent slacking smoking dope, getting kicked out of school, polishing your "game" on sweet innocent underage girls you eventually 'de flower' through exhaustive yet succesful attempts to get the date rapist drugs you have stashed in the glove compartment, into your poor victims drinks while offering them to take the "Pepsi Challenge" while making your mother hate you, and your poor father who wishes he had a daughter instead of your pathetic ass, since a girl would be more of a man than you ever were, like the occasion when you were hit in the arm by a wild pitch in little league, then you cried like a fat kid who dropped his ice cream cone, I'm already envisioning you impacting the rocks below, in a spectacular fireball ignited from the residue hairspray from your girlfriend plastered in the fabric passenger seat, blinded by your earring, deafened by the loud "Bling Blingin", and I will smile and roll around on the ground in orgasmic delight while you are consumed by flames whose intense heat and fury will liquefy your bone marrow that I will use to make jelly beans out of and eat them happily at your funeral as midgets dressed like Alex 6005321 from "A Clockwork Orange" dance around your coffin to loud industrial style techno music and strobe lights, and I will sleep soundly at night knowing another successful conquest of Darwinism has been attained.
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08-20-2003, 12:35 AM
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Re: help me decide!
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#11
08-20-2003, 12:51 AM
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sorry about the language, i thought that all of that long stuff on r1rider was directed at me. Im sorta a noob. I really would like some suggestions on a torquey, small, 4 cylinder car that i could put a turbo in. Once again, sorry bout that to anybody who was offended.
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#12
08-20-2003, 01:18 AM
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The 2.5 liter Subaru engine is pretty torquey, about as torquey as a small 4 cylinder gets. It makes the same power as a Civic Si, but it has more torque than hp.
If I had 10 grand to spend, I'd get an early Impreza L for a couple thousand, do an AWD 2.2 or 2.5 swap and turbo it, and use the leftover to buy a small light cheap track car, like a Miata or RWD Corolla or something.
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#13
08-21-2003, 03:25 PM
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Torquey fours, eh? Well, here's the list.
MG 1800cc four: Stock numbers don't look that impressive, but there's a lot of torque in this engine thanks to oversquare bores and flattop pistons. But don't turbo it. You'll never keep head gaskets on the thing. Porsche 2.0-3.0 as found in the 944-968 family: Yeah, these have torque in abundance, but they're big as far as fours are concerned. Plus they're expensive. Chrysler 2.2L four: Here's a monster for you, especially the turbos. Polygon'll back me up on this, as the 2.2L makes its power low in the rev range and has torque steer from hell. Plus it's CHEAP. Turbo Z Daytonas, Shelby Chargers, Omni GLH Turbos and the like are scattered all around and can make serious power. That's about all I can name off the top of my head. In reality, "torque" and "four cylinder" usually are mutually exclusive words, except in USAC.
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#14
08-22-2003, 08:29 AM
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go for a vw 1.8t and put it in an older, lighter car.
but hell, if you've got 300hp, without reading the entire thread, why would you want to change that at all? i've got a friend with an svt with an intake, exhaust and dropped, and it sounds like an indy car... it's awesome and it's fast. if you're looking to get rid of it because of problems, maybe you should just trouble shoot the entire car, and look at the quality of the work on the car, etc. it may not be the car having the problems, it may be the interaction between the car and the installed components. i would guess that if you were to have it looked over and tuned by someone who knew what they were doing, you could get it running great and reliable. keep in mind that adding 100hp to your cars output will greatly decrease the driveability/reliability factor, which is another reason you may be having the gremlins you do... i vote for the vw 1.8t though, big power from the factory, and it's a chip away from 200 hp. and if you add an intake and exhaust, you're looking at about 220ish... think about it... super tuner tv did a turbo upgrade on an a4 with the 1.8t in it. the upgrade was about 2500 bucks, and kicked the output... at the wheels, on a quattro equipped car, from 147 to 260ish. try adding that kinda power to anything else for 2500 bucks. and if you put that power through 2 wheels... it's gonna be more like 300 or so...
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#15
08-22-2003, 08:45 AM
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Its off topic b/c its not a 4 cylinder, but i found an old twin turbo (biturbo) Maserati with a v6
 , was thinking of buying it since its asking price is $2,000. Fun stuff. Back to the subject, I too would go for a 1.8l turbo. They have great upgrades availible, and are fun cars to drive. Wish I had one 
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