Turbo with NX-intercooler

[sageprime1]

If I were to install a stage I turbo with a NX-intercooler nitrous system into my BASE '03 RSX (stage I meaning 275whp and 52hp boost with NX):
is this safe
how much psi should i run for daily run, and how much for track/race
would i have to do any internal work
what brand of oil is best
how many miles should satisfy break-in

Again, is it safe to shoot nitrous in the intercooler, and if so at what psi??

[boosted331]

Spraying nitrous on the intercooler is stupid. If you want to spray something across the intercooler, use CO2. Only time you actually need to spray down the intercooler is if you're boosting a ton in stop and go traffic (which is stupid anyways) or if the IC gets heat soaked from sitting in the staging lanes. Besides, most of the benefit from spraying nitrous over your intercooler is the nitrous being injested by your motor after it blows through the IC and is sucked up through the filter.

I'd run 8-10 psi on a stock RSX with a GOOD fuel system (550's, 255LPH pump, hondata/AEM EMS) you don't need to do any internal work unless you want to build a stronger motor to crank up the boost, and for oil I prefer royal purple or mobil one. If your car has already been broken in you don't reall yneed to break it in with the turbo, other than giving it some time for the seals in the turbo to seat.

[funkdaflex1]

I'm going to have to disagree with boosted on some things. "Besides, most of the benefit from spraying nitrous over your intercooler is the nitrous being injested by your motor after it blows through the IC and is sucked up through the filter." thats impossible for starters if it was injested by the intercooler then somethings dman wrong with your intercooler and you would be losing pressure from your intercooler and for it being sucked up by the filter when your driving your obviosly moving fairly quickly nitrouse is lighter than air so as soon as its sprayed over the bars its already been evaporeted into the air. For the amount of boost you can run 6 daily 10 at the track. 8 to 10 daily and your internals arnt gunna last as long, 8 to 10 daily your piston rings are going to fy fairly quick my buddy took me for a ride last night at about 8 to 10 lb's and his rings were gone he had to get towed home. With good fuel you can do it but your rings will go. As for a break in period yes there is one it has nothing to do with your motor breaking in it has to due with the exhaust gases being coated in the turbo and down pipe break in period is like 500 miles. After time internals will be necessary as well as a clutch expect the clutch to be the first thing to go. I dont know anything about spraying the c02 or nitrouse as for it helping but I would imagine it does I read another post where they said it can blow your moto with I think excessive use like holding the trigger for to long but I honestly dont see how it can hurt your motor all it is..is cooler your intake charge and can be used whenever. Using it for stop and go traffic would be dumb would you spray actual shot of nitro in traffic? and it helps you alot more when your moving at a faster pace. And c02 is probably better to spray and nitro and much more cheaper.

[boosted331]

Originally posted by funkdaflex1
I'm going to have to disagree with boosted on some things. "Besides, most of the benefit from spraying nitrous over your intercooler is the nitrous being injested by your motor after it blows through the IC and is sucked up through the filter." thats impossible for starters if it was injested by the intercooler then somethings dman wrong with your intercooler and you would be losing pressure from your intercooler and for it being sucked up by the filter when your driving your obviosly moving fairly quickly nitrouse is lighter than air so as soon as its sprayed over the bars its already been evaporeted into the air.

There are so damn many things wrong with this one huge jumbled sentence it makes my head hurt. First of all, I never said your intercooler would be sucking up the nitrous, I said it would blow through your intercooler and be sucked up by your air filter. Ever used nitrous before? Optimum bottle pressure is 950-1050 PSI. That is more than enough to push the nitrous through the intercooler and to your filter before it has a chance to diffuse with the air. The maybe 15 degree cooler IAT's you get from a mod like this alone does not add 50 RWHP. I've seen dyno comparisons with the IC sprayer and the A/F ratio usually inreases (gets leaner) by around a full point, which is NOT just happening because of the mild decrease in IAT's.

8-10 PSI daily is NOT going to fry your rings or break ringlands IF THE MOTOR IS TUNED PROPERLY. Period, amen. And even if your buddies rings were toast in his whatever the hell he was driving he wouldn't need to be towed home, i've driven cars 60 miles on busted ring lands (you know, the space between your rings, not the rings themselves) a blown ring really is no big deal, you'll either get a lot of crankcase pressure, or burn a lot of oil.

About the only good point funkdaflex made was about a clutch. I forgot about that, but would definitely recommend stepping up to something with some more clamping power, i'd recommend a clutchmasters stage 2.

[SleeperCivic]

I'd say if you run 10psi normally and want to use the FMIC kit from NX, you should drop your boost level down a couple of psi. The reason for this is that when you're boosting normally the outside air is less dense. Yes, the FMIC does make it more dense by decreasing the temperature, but only by so much. Have you rode in a car boosting 8psi w/o a FMIC then putting an FMIC on and running 8psi? It's night and day. If the FMIC makes that much power by decreasing air temp by a little, think about how much the NX kit would make.

My point: 10psi without the kit is probably okay, but 10psi with the kit could be disasterous because of the density of the air and the extra strain that would be put on your internals by the power made during combustion. I'm no Mr. Wizard, but that's how it works.

[Polygon]

I agree with sleeper, I wouldn't run over 8PSI unless you build up the engine.

Also, if you want one of the Ntercooler systems, forget using nitrous or CO2. Use compressed air. They all will have the same effect but compressed air is tons cheaper.

I would use Mobil 1 Synthetic unless you are breaking in a motor. If you are breaking in a motor use normal motor oil like some Valvoline 10W30 until the engine is broken in then switch to the Synthetic.

Turbos don't really need time to break in, just time for the seals to seat. Just be sure to let that thing cool down before shutting off the car.

[sageprime1]

Okay, thanks for all the advice. I'm not sure if you guys got that I have a the BASE model, which has a his/her clutch. Will the transmisson, the his/her clutch, and any other internal parts besides the rods and pistons be damaged or over strained??? Basically, what i'm asking is if it's in my best interest to get a stage I or a stage II turbo kit if i'm planning to do lots of driving, particularly highway driving, and periodic track/race runs, say twice a month for 4-6 months out the year???

Also, since most of the people that are answering have turbocharged cars, what do u think of cybernations RSX turbo kits??? I know Greedy is coming out with their version soon, but it doesn't come with as many parts as Cybernation's, an intercooler in particular. All suggestions are welcome....THANKS!!

[disbboi]

if you have alot of money i heard hytech is coming out with a turbo kit for the rsx too.