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07-03-2003, 04:57 PM
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FF can't drift huh? Thread part 2
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#2
07-03-2003, 06:25 PM
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great that's awesome...I havn't even watched it yet..yeah i've also seen twin Subaru REX's with 60 Horsepower ass dragging rather nicely around the track..but the point remains..drifting is a continuous flowing motion...The FWD cars cannot sustain such motion..therefore they can't drift..
---Edit--- THIS IS THE SAME VIDEO..HAHAHA "K-Car?" WTF is this K-Car crap?..IT's a Subaru REX.. IT says it right on the back 
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#3
07-03-2003, 07:01 PM
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OMG Shinez, are u stupid or are u stupid? WATCH IT! u dont even know what a K-car is? Maybe u need to update your option video collection.
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07-03-2003, 07:14 PM
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I have the video man...trust me...Listen to the cars...hear how HIGH they're revving just to get down the straight away
and the minute the drivers lock the back 1 WHEEL...Did you notice how only 1 wheel was attached to the brake cable...For 1 that was probably so the car wouldn't flip in the corners...Anywho...The minute the brake was engaged the RPM's dropped to like 2.....And the second the ebrake was disengaged the back end whipped back in sync with the front end...then they had to re-engage the e-brake....which means it's not flowing....which means..it's not a drift.
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#5
07-03-2003, 07:26 PM
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riiiighhhhtt.... its all about the flow... i gotcha  drifting is about car control and the utilization of different techniques to achieve rear slip and proper angle... drivers utilize the e-brake more than once to create the desired angle and to re-pitch their vehicles... does this mean they're not drifting since they're not flowing by your standards? c'mon. your definition is flawed due to the fact that there are many kinds of drifting technique... does your definition include 4 wheel drift? understeer drift? although fwd drift cannot maintain the same length as rwd vehicles, it is still in the very pure essence... a drift. |
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07-03-2003, 07:34 PM
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why is there another one of these....we all know that fwd cannot drift they slide/ass drag/fly swat what ever you want to call it..and theres already an fwd drifting tread so why make another?
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07-03-2003, 07:37 PM
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i'm sure they can drift better .... errr ass drag than both of you
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#8
07-03-2003, 07:43 PM
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that was more of slide with light whipping action....but yeah it looks a little better than when i try to drift
*Edit* but i looks a hella lot better then that honda shit someone put up awhile back
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#9
07-03-2003, 08:12 PM
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Yeah..You're right..they can azz dragg better than me, because I wouldn't get caught dead heading up my brake cable for no reason..Because it's a pain in the azz to replace....And it's retarded to azz dragg anyway...FWD cars can't drift...And yes it is about flowing..How many professionals out there drive their cars in jerky movements? When was the last time someone won a D1 Grand prix by having their back end jerk back and forth everytime the brake was applied?...You're just too close minded to realize it, and you're making a joke out of the wrong things...Smartness..
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07-03-2003, 09:50 PM
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i think you are the one who is close minded. Saying that FWD cannot drift! Ha! "Flowing" --- whatever. How many D1 competitions or for that matter, drift competitions have you been to? Smoothness, speed and angle and show will win you D1 but it doesn't mean that if you jerk that your not drifting... that statement right there does not make any sense. You are trying to stick with your theory of "flow" as a definition of drifting even though it clearly does not apply to everything. You know why? it's because you want to disapprove of FWD drift and that right there is being close minded.
And i'm making fun of you guys talking about ass dragging, even if the ones DRIFTING their cars are able to do it smoothly with a "minor" jerk due to weight transfer and pitching. Depending on the angle, there are times where there will be jerkyness so this totally disapproves your theory of "flow" or smoothness... so your definition is flawed. drifting is the controlled and induced loss of traction of a vehicle... that's it! may it be through an apex, a 180 turn or whatever... it does not say only for RWD, only for AWD, only for MR, FR cars... nor does it say you have to drift at a certain speed, or no jerkyness at a certain degree or whatever... to include those in a definition is stupid and open for critcism specially from more knowledgable people. This is my last post on this thread since i'm sure you guys are true to what you feel. But if you can't even truly drift your car since your e-brake cable might be broke... or you might waste your tires... i say to you.... hahahahhahaaahha... don't worry, this is only the internet. i'm sure you feel confident of your skills and knowledge in TRUE DRIFTING .... oooohhhhhh makes me shiver. 
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07-03-2003, 10:11 PM
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Lol...Funny how you supposedly end it with your word...Anyway.
First off...I'm not being close minded as I said earlier...I'm simply seeing the truths in their entirety, you however are in a pure state of denial..You're right..I havn't BEEN to many D1 competitions...I've been to 2 actually...However I have SEEN plenty, and in all the one's i've witnessed I've yet to see a FWD car take ANY place let alone first...Hell, has a FWD ever made it past the intial trials in D1 history? A Front wheel drive car cannot sustain a drift...it's impossible for it to unless it's front brakes are COMPLETLY inactive, and then the car wouldn't be legal in ANY sort of competition, or track... If a car hops out of it's slide 1/4 of the way or 1/2 through the corner..it's not a complete drift is it?...from what you're saying I can go into any corner and get my tires to slip for 3 inches and it be a drift, I didn't sustain it at all...but...it's a drift, simply because my back wheels slid out of aline...That's a stereotypical Import Tuner kid's response to the question "What is drifting" It's nice to know that there are still stubborn people out there in the world..It makes for easier arguments. 
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#12
07-03-2003, 10:31 PM
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whatever you say mr drifter x.
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07-05-2003, 12:53 AM
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You guys keep saying the same things. All front wheel drive cars do is "ass drag" and it's not real drifting "because it doesn't flow". You want flow? Go watch autocross or road racing. They race so close to the edge of traction that 100 RPM is the difference between staying on the track and spinning off the track. If you don't "flow" smoothly around a track while road racing, you crash. Drifting IS NOT about flow. You think feinting back and forth then kicking the rear around is smooth? It's the lack of "flow" that initiates a drift. Look in other threads about different techniques. Shift lock: Disrupts your drivetrain by using the engine as a brake, the sudden shift in weight initiates the drift. Clutch kick: Same as above except the drivetrain is used as a brake. Throttle off: The sudden shift of weight to the front when you get off the throttle initiates a drift. Braking drift: Same concept as above. These are all methods used in REAR WHEEL DRIVE cars. The reason drifters are based on how smoothly they drift.. how well they "flow" is because drifting IS NOT smooth. Those who can make it seem smooth are the best drifters. Next: Quote:
A front wheel drive car cannot sustain a drift if it's got front brakes? In a front wheel drive car you just control the angle of the drift differently. Because the rear wheels aren't the drive wheels you cannot simply apply throttle or let off to change the angle of a drift. Instead the e-brake is usually used to modify the drift angle. It can be done just as smoothly as any rear wheel drive car can be controlled with throttle, it's all about the driver. Yes, the driver may use the e-brake more than once during a drift to correct angle. Does that mean that it's not drifting? Only to someone as closed minded as yourself. If this forum is going to flourish then we're all going to have to act a little more professional. Getting rid of all this hatred against front wheel drive cars and drifting would be a great improvement. Maybe someday you guys will even realize that D1 isn't the end of the world. 
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