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Old 06-16-2003, 03:12 PM   #1
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For all those who say a FWD can't drift

I know alot of you guys are gonna say shit about this, i don't care. Its just to explain that a FWD can drift without the use of an Ebrake.

Now to the story:

Saturday on my way home from work, I was about the 4th car sitting at a red light. Its a 2 lane road. Light turns green, got a solid green light and an arrow. So I take off as soon as the front 3 cars allow me to and turn. I hit the turn at about 25-30 MPH, had it in 2nd gear, applied about half pressure on the brake with my left foot while still applying gas with my right foot. My back tires broke loose, I let it slide around and get the right angle, then i let my foot off the brake and gunned it. Wasn't like a completely sideways drift, but a drift no less.

It just shows that you can drift a FWD after much time, practice and knowledge. There are 2 things you need to know, 1: Left foot braking 2: Setting up your tire pressures. My rear tires are set at about 30 PSI while my front tires are at 35 PSI, it might be less than that, but they are set 5 PSI apart. This allows the rear tires to slide easier while the front will still grab longer than the rear.
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Old 06-16-2003, 03:57 PM   #2
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spread the truth Tony im tired of non-believers saying that FWDs cant drift simply because someone else says they cant, cant some of you guys think for yourselfs. even when i tell them about left foot braking theyre too arrogant actually read up on it and automatically dismiss it. i mean Rally drivers the masters of drifting cant be wrong, they have been using this technique for years which has been proven to cut down on track times. the truth is that locking the wheels to initiate a drift is still a drift, why would there be a drifting technique called e brake drifting and shift lock drifting if it didnt qualify as drifting. the only drift an FWD cant do is power over.
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Old 06-16-2003, 04:53 PM   #3
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yea, i agree, using the Ebrake to help out a drift is still a drift, but just so no one calls it ass dragging, i don't use the ebrake when i try drifting my civic. I didn't post this to start anything, I posted it to let people know its possible, just like a RWD car, it takes knowledge, time and practice. Now just trying it once and sayin it can't. Also I will agree with the RWD guys, a RWD can do a much better drift than a FWD car, but a FWD can still drift.

Oh yea to let everyone know, my civic is a 91 DX hatch, with stock D15b2(92hp) and stock suspension, only thing not stock is different wheels and no rear interior, everything is pretty much stock.
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Old 06-16-2003, 05:56 PM   #4
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LOOK! guys. for god's sake. if i want to believe that FWD's can't drift (WHICH I DO BELIEVE AND WILL ALWAYS BELIEVE), then LET ME BELIEVE THAT! it's my opinion, and nothing you can say, no ammount of evidence you can present, will change my opinion. likewise, i respect the fact that you guys believe that FWD's CAN drift. i'm not going to say anything to try and change your mind, because it's your damn opinion, not mine. believe what you want, and let me believe what i want. i am 100% done posting in threads about whether or not FWD's can drift, because it's a never-ending argument between 2 groups of hardcore fanatics, BOTH of which won't budge an inch with their viewpoints. i say everyone trying to convince the other side: DROP IT!!! let us believe what we want and let's end all the hostility and arguments once and for all.

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Old 06-16-2003, 06:11 PM   #5
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Thats fine Iketani, I said i wasn't trying to start anything, I'm not trying to change your opinion if you are dead set on it. But I figured maybe it will help a few people out. Everyone is entitled to their opinion and im glad you see it that way too.
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Old 06-16-2003, 08:49 PM   #6
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Lift throttle oversteer, I already posted about in the "drift the tercel"
As for the whole FF can't drift - how else are FR people going to make themselves feel special?
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Lift throttle oversteer, I already posted about in the "drift the tercel"
As for the whole FF can't drift - how else are FR people going to make themselves feel special?
don't cross the line, man. we already resolved this.
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how else are FR people going to make themselves feel special?
lol I am SO ready to jump down this guys throat if he speaks up
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alright guys, keep it friendly. If its gonna go into an arguement, Ill get this thread locked, we need no more arguements on it.
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there used to be FF cars in the D1 competitions but now they get beat by the FR's quite easily so no one uses them anymore
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i dont think anybody wants to start trouble but its just that the general public believe that FWDs cant drift just because its the "IN" thing to do. we are just posting some genuine proven techniques that back up our claim not just opinions. all i ask is that you guys atleast be little more open minded read up on how left foot braking works. you can even try it out on GT3, if you still dont believe that fine with me, no harm done.

http://www.rallyracingnews.com/lfb.html
http://www.modernracer.com/tips/leftfootbraking.html
http://www.teammatrix.com.my/Driving/leftfoot1.html
http://www.virtualracersedge.com/left_foot_braking.htm
http://www.leftfootbraking.com/
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i didn't think it there was any doubt that they drift but its
A) alot harder to drift FF
B) not quite as spectacular
C) Can't go as fast doing it
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Post FWD CAN"T DRIFT!!!!

Whether you use the e-brake or try developing some "left foot braking while applying gas technique" you still end up with a FWD car "TRYING" to do what its not made to do and "PHYSICALLY IMPOSSIBLE TO DO..." what ever direction your wheels are pointed, thats where your going so "In my opinion" FWD cars can not DRIFT! RWD ALL THE WAY!
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I'm sorry Tony but I don't believe that getting your car slightly sideways around a corner is Drift. I have been sideways many times in FWD and RWD cars and I have never considered this Drift. To Drift properly you need to be sideways around many corners linking them all together so your car never gets traction. Driving in a straight line then hanging it sideways around a corner is NOT Drift. I don't mean to diss but I think a lot of you FWD guys have the wrong opinion about what Drift really is.
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the video of the Civic "drifting" basically shows what a FWD drift is

its not stylish and its looks horrible so there's no point to it

but

if you download the Top Gear - Car of the year - ford puma video

you get to see a FF car go almost completely sideways like a FR at the hands of Tiff Needle

altho he faints and drives really hard to get it to do so and there's loads of space.
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