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06-26-2003, 09:03 AM
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SVT versus SRT
Which is the best: SVT or SRT?
SVT vechicles: svt focus, svt mustang cobra, svt lightning, ford gt SRT vechicles: srt-4 neon, srt-10 viper, srt-10 ram Personally, I think that SVT is better. The Ford GT is faster than any car in this comparison. The mustang cobra is only a few tenths from being as fast as the viper. The next lightning (S/C 5.4 L w/ 500hp) is faster than the srt-10 ram. Dodge's only big victory in this comparison is the srt-4 over the svt focus. |
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06-26-2003, 10:08 AM
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ok the GT does not exist yet, the new lighting does not exist yet...they are prototipes
so i'll take this further.....i'll compare the year 3250 intrepid class dodge starship Vs the galaxy class ford starship...which one can do the 1/4 parsec faster.....  and btw a side by side comparison between the 03 cobra and the srt-19 viper is more than e few tenths..... viper srt-10 11.7 sec cobra 13.01 sec last time i checked that is more than a sec diff.... the comparison was made side by side by Justin Bell former gts class le mans winer.....if you think you can do better...please post your profesional racing credentials.....
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06-26-2003, 01:17 PM
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06-26-2003, 09:55 PM
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Hands down I will go with SRT, and not only because I'm a serious Mopar fan.
1. The SRT-10 Ram can murder the SVT Lightning on the straight and on the track, and the Lightning is supercharged. 2. The SRT-10 Viper is about a second faster than the SVT Cobra Mustang, and once again the Mustang is supercharged. 3. The SRT-4 Neon just wallops on the SVT Focus, but to the Focus's defense the Neon does have a turbocharger. What can be said there is that when Chrysler does forced induction, at least they do it right. SVT should almost stand for Supercharged Vehicles Team. They need to design a new platform and build something that can compete naturally aspirated. As for the GT, it is still a concept, and it is a supercharged concept at that. |
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06-26-2003, 10:54 PM
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Viper over Mustang.
If your going to buy a big fat heavy over powered lump of steel then do it porperly. The Viper is heavier, more powerful, faster and oh soooooooooo much coooler! Trucks? who cares. Trucks are for carring large loads not racing. Neon vs Focus? Focus all the way! Its a British designed car, with a great agile chassis, lots of power, and lots of charm. The Neon will always be a Neon, no matter what you do to it. ....oh, and the Focus is driven by that Collin McRae fella, when was the last time you saw a WRC Neon. 
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06-26-2003, 11:13 PM
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the mustang is actually heavier than the viper....the new srt-10 is only 3300 pounds(and keep in mind its a convertible) while the new cobra is almost 3700 pounds.... also the focus svt is quite a good handling car.....and quite good but it would get murdered by the srt-4 because of the power deficit......a true contender for the srt-4 would be the turbo focus rs.....very different story....
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06-26-2003, 11:17 PM
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And Moppie, you should know better than to compare a WRC car to a stocker. The reason you haven't seen a WRC SRT-4 is the fact that it cost millions to make these cars, and I don't think that it would make Chrysler any money, so why make one? Also, the Neon can handle. It is kicking butt in SCCA rally events in its class. Don't say it can compete because of a nameplate. |
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06-26-2003, 11:36 PM
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well ford has had its svt division longer than dodge has had its srt. the lightning has been the supreme sports truck for some time. it's inevitable that someone else will step up to the plate and offer one better. then the next time around, it will be someone else, perhaps chevy this time since the current ss silverado, while it's a nice truck, still falls short of the lightning and srt10 in the performance category.
i'm not a fan of pickups myself. i could really care less if the new ram srt 10 is faster than the lightning or whatever. it makes no difference to me. as for between the neon srt4 and focus svt i'd choose the neon if i was a teenager who just wants to beat on all those honda boys since it already has a big wing and all that body clad stuff. otherwise, i'd get the focus. i dont' put the cobra in the same category as the viper. the viper runs with 911 turbos, ferraris, the zo6. a class that the cobra can't touch. that's what i think. sure the viper and mustang cobra are the fastest cars from dodge and ford respectively (until the ford gt comes out at least). then will ford have a more evenly matched contest to the viper, but not the cobra. |
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06-26-2003, 11:40 PM
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Neutrino, the cobra can run 12.3-12.6 in the quarter compared to the viper's 11.8-12.2. That's not as much of a difference as the $45000 price difference. With a couple thousand dollars, viper drivers will be reading the word "cobra" on the mustang bumper. The mach 1 will run 12.97 on slicks so the cobra can for sure get low 12s with a good,experienced driver. I am not trying to start a flame war, but look at the price difference! Polygon, the 2005 srt-10 will not beat the 2005 lightning! The lightning makes as much horsepower and is lighter. The lightning will preveil! As far as the ford gt being a concept still, wrong. Ford only released around 3 or so for the cenntennial celebration this year. Ford will start making about 1500 per year starting next year.
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06-27-2003, 03:27 AM
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and i'm not disputing that the cobra can run faster than the time i posted....but so the viper can be faster....external conditions affect performance too much....that is why only side by side runs matter.... for example i can get the cobra to run faster....how?...i take the cobra at sea level and run it.....and i take the viper and run it in tibet.....the viper up there will probably run in the 15's....so separate runs cannot mater when comparing car performances....only identical condition runs.....as in side by side....
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06-27-2003, 05:04 AM
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You guys should have known better than to take my post seriously, I was just taking the piss out of the very nationalistic nature of this comparision (moslty because we dont get a lot of Vipers in this part of the world, and the few Mustangs we do get are conversions done in Ozzy, all to the detriment of the cars performance).
The Neon was sold here along side the Voyager, but unlike the Voyager, it was a total sales flop. Its a cheap car, built and designed on a budget by people who dont really car about small cars, they would be rather be designing Vipers and Voyagers. In the US where you have a very limited selection of genuine small performance cars then the SRT is surly a great bargin, but out side of the US it shows its age, and brute force approach to performance. The Focus is a much much more sophisticated car. Remember that real life roads are not straight lines, and they are not totaly smooth autocross course's.
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06-27-2003, 05:40 AM
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I'm with you here Moppie- but Colin drives for a Certain French maker now so  Although last I hear the Voyager was losing serious ground to the Carnival, Oddysey, Previa and Secnic (Though it's not a proper MPV) back in the motherland.The Focus without doubt has the most sophistication, the Neon has been around in one form or another since 1995 to the best of my knowlege- and Chrysler are flogging them off to College students who think they are are "cute" and the US is it's sole market- the Focus is a European car that ended up in the States- and that sounds a lot better on the ears  - NOBODY does compacts better than the Europeans (The Mazda2 and Honda Jazz come close though)Viper vs Stang??? Viper- without a doubt- torquier, brawnier and oh so in-your-face- I'm dying for a drive of the latest one 
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06-27-2003, 05:44 AM
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one thing to correct you guys......don't asociate the srt-4 with the base neons.....there is a very large gap.....almost as big as between the lancer and lancer evo....
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06-27-2003, 12:15 PM
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The 2005 Lightning is STILL supercharged, they can't win being naturally aspirated. The SRT-10 Ram looks so much better anyway. As for the GT, that is great, it is a great looking car, but it is STILL superchraged. If you haven't caught the hint yet, I don't like supercharging. And Moppie, I didn't realize that you were craking a joke. While I don't mind the Focus, I just don't like any of the models here in the states, I want the RS.
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