to all z06 non-believers

[BlOOe46]

http://www.fast-autos.net/news/42403.html

just found it interesting that a z06 did a sub 8 min lap on the ring

(sorry this comes so late after the z06 vs modena discussion)

i think we know now which is the more competent track car, no?

(under the "Nurburgring-inspired chassis tuning" header)

These refinements are a result of extensive testing and development, including several high-speed test sessions at Germany's famed Nurburgring circuit. Corvette Z06 is one of only a precious few cars to have broken the 8-minute barrier for lap times at Nurburgring. Corvette testing at Nurburgring isn't just about raw speed, as the Z06 provides plenty of that. Engineers gathered important learning on tuning the chassis to enhance the poise, confidence and smoothness of response, attributes that are of great importance under the severe demands of a 14-mile course that has approximately 170 turns and virtually constant elevation changes.

[flylwsi]

nice link...

it's late, but it's still nice...

unfortunately, they don't give the actual time...

there has to be a way to view track records at the ring... don't they have a site?

[BlOOe46]

the time for the z06 is said to be 7:56

this coming from Harlen Charles "Corvette Product mag."

here is a thread talking about it:
http://www.z06vette.com/forums/showt...g&pagenumber=2

[BlOOe46]

there is also this site
http://www.nordschleife.no/

however it only shows a regular c5 vette, which was said to have been an auto (speculation from bmwm5.com forum)

[TatII]

wow thats 3 seconds faster then the R33. nice. well i always knew the Z06 can beat the GT-R. but that proves that the GT-R can still hang with a Z06 not like what most people believe (the Z06 eating the GT-R)

[BigJustinZ28]

yo , no BLT can hang with me , I'd eat a BLT right up !!!

[MattyG]

Wow thats a damn good effort from the vette.

These comparos are only going to get better too when the Japanese drop their stupid HP agreement.

[Neutrino]

Originally posted by MattyG
Wow thats a damn good effort from the vette.

These comparos are only going to get better too when the Japanese drop their stupid HP agreement.

well they've been braking the accord for quite a while now. i mean the real numbers on a v spec II R34 were suposedly quite a bit over 300.

also from what i understad the accord should be off anyway.

[MattyG]

Originally posted by Neutrino


well they've been braking the accord for quite a while now. i mean the real numbers on a v spec II R34 were suposedly quite a bit over 300.

also from what i understad the accord should be off anyway.

True but I'd like to see them bust it completely...I want to see what they can do with a 350-400HP AWD car.....

[flylwsi]

These comparos are only going to get better too when the Japanese drop their stupid HP agreement.

considering that skylines have been dyno'd stock at over 320 whp... it's done... even with the agreement...

True but I'd like to see them bust it completely...I want to see what they can do with a 350-400HP AWD car.....

like above, 320ish whp is about 375ish crank hp...

so it's close...

and you're still talking about a heavier car, with less hp, than a zo6...

you're still not going to be as fast.

that's been talked about, proven, and taken care of.

it's even more relevant the zo6 is a better care than a gt-r when you take it to a track like the 'ring, that combines straights, corners, whatever... so it doesn't favor just one car...

and besides, this post is in regards to the zo6/modena debate...

[FYRHWK1]

Originally posted by BlOOe46
http://www.fast-autos.net/news/42403.html

just found it interesting that a z06 did a sub 8 min lap on the ring

(sorry this comes so late after the z06 vs modena discussion)

i think we know now which is the more competent track car, no?

(under the "Nurburgring-inspired chassis tuning" header)

Great post, i should've thought of this. After whatever his name is locked the Z06 vs modena thread I PM'd this to him, only he didnt have the balls to post the link up claiming it's false I guess some people will do anything to cower in their own reality.

[Neutrino]

good times for the zo6. but i was loking at the modena times and whoever drove it did a horrible job. i mean even the 550 marranello beat it and we all know that the modena is way faster than the maranelo on a track.



btw i have a quik question: why is everyone so obssesd with this track. there are plenty more out there that are as or more difficult.

you would think thios is the only track in the world. what happened to laguna seca sebring etc....?

[crayzayjay]

Originally posted by FYRHWK1

Great post, i should've thought of this. After whatever his name is locked the Z06 vs modena thread I PM'd this to him, only he didnt have the balls to post the link up claiming it's false I guess some people will do anything to cower in their own reality.

Cower indeed... very sneaky of you, my friend, to accuse me of "not having the balls" and then resort to insulting me behind my back. You dont need anyone to teach you about cowering, eh?

To set the record straight, my manipulative little friend, I didnt claim the two links you sent me were false. I did however point out that they were one and the same article (that was a nice touch, really, very useful) that was copied from Chevrolet's press page, and having worked in the media, with both my parents working in the media, i tend to view these claims with a fair amount of skepticism (ever hear of the E-Type?), as i suggest you should. Why isnt there a specific time? When i see a clip i will be satisfied or its reported independently i will believe.

I did also point out to you that the article referred to a special edition Z06, which is lighter that the standard one and has further tweaked suspension over the standard Z06. So its not a standard Z06, which is what we were comparing to a standard 360. Otherwise we could have started mentioning the Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale, or whatever the hell its called..

The balls you have saying i didnt want you to post this, in my reply to your very un-civil PM, didnt i tell you to post whatever you like? I quote

"post anything you like about the Z06, or LM Z06, but not the same comparo because we've tried twice already, and it hasnt worked"?

My what a short memory / devious little mind you have. Quit the bull-shitting, ive got my eye on you


I suggest you take this warning on the chin and not cause any more trouble, i dont want anymore threads going down the drain.

[BlOOe46]

there is a time for the standard z06

the time for the z06 is said to be 7:56

this coming from Harlen Charles "Corvette Product mag."

here is a thread talking about it:
http://www.z06vette.com/forums/show...ng&pagenumber=2

[FYRHWK1]

Originally posted by crayzayjay


Cower indeed... very sneaky of you, my friend, to accuse me of "not having the balls" and then resort to insulting me behind my back. You dont need anyone to teach you about cowering, eh?

To set the record straight, my manipulative little friend, I didnt claim the two links you sent me were false. I did however point out that they were one and the same article (that was a nice touch, really, very useful) that was copied from Chevrolet's press page, and having worked in the media, with both my parents working in the media, i tend to view these claims with a fair amount of skepticism (ever hear of the E-Type?), as i suggest you should. Why isnt there a specific time? When i see a clip i will be satisfied or its reported independently i will believe.

I did also point out to you that the article referred to a special edition Z06, which is lighter that the standard one and has further tweaked suspension over the standard Z06. So its not a standard Z06, which is what we were comparing to a standard 360. Otherwise we could have started mentioning the Ferrari 360 Challenge Stradale, or whatever the hell its called..

The balls you have saying i didnt want you to post this, in my reply to your very un-civil PM, didnt i tell you to post whatever you like? I quote

"post anything you like about the Z06, or LM Z06, but not the same comparo because we've tried twice already, and it hasnt worked"?

My what a short memory / devious little mind you have. Quit the bull-shitting, ive got my eye on you


I suggest you take this warning on the chin and not cause any more trouble, i dont want anymore threads going down the drain.

Behind your back? i knew from the second i posted this you would see it, that was my intent.

The article in your links - which is actually the same article copied to a second site - useful, thanks - is about a LM Z06, and not the standard one. Besides, the sub-8-min claim is a manufacturer's claim, which you can buy into all you want, but i personally would like more evidence

Directly from your response, the LM Z06 gets a new hood and paintjob, that wont shave 4 seconds off a laptime. Will it help? yes i'm sure, but the fact is the Z06 already has a 51/49 weight bias, the gains will not be significant. You want more proof? yes i'm sure GM is outright lying about this car, or are you just not willing to believe otherwise because your argument goes down the drain? The suspension is found on ALL 2004 Z06s

All 2004 Z06 Corvettes will benefit from the continual pursuit of performance enhancements that have characterized the C5 era. The enhancements for 2004 are subtle in terms of physical parts, but significant in terms of the car's performance and feel.

meaning no, the LM is not the only one to run those sub 8 minute times, a 10.6L lighter hood does not drop the times ~5 seconds.

Meaning this is not a comparison of the LM, it's a comparison of the 2004 Z06, which applies perfectly to the z06 vs Modena argument. It also shows that if all the GM has to do to run sub 8 minute laptimes is some shock tuning (the only suspension modification for 2004) then obviously your argument about the Modena being "better" is well. . . wrong.

Got your eye on me? good, you might learn something, but when you close a thread with the final note of "PM me any new information and it might get posted" and then ignore new information (that goes against your argument) that applies to all new Z06s, well thats just hilarious. I didn't make another topic about it because it's simply not worth the trouble, and i'm not going to try and hijack bloo's thread, but at least now the record is straight.