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| View Poll Results: Which would you rather have? | |||
| HSV GTS-R ($30 000) |
   
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30 | 62.50% |
| BMW M5 ($65 000) |
  
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18 | 37.50% |
| Voters: 48. You may not vote on this poll | |||
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#61
10-20-2001, 10:49 PM
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I think its mainly for toe-in. When the rotors warp, they quickly destroy the alignment, and the car will wander.
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#62
01-24-2002, 03:49 AM
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Speaking of inequalities, I live in the U.S. and it makes me sick to see GM marketing rear-wheel drive V8-powered muscle sedans in the Middle East and Australia after having discontinued them here. I was a big fan of the last generation Caprice 9C1 and Impala SS.
I heard that the Holden GTS-R was selling down under for about $85000 AUD fully equipped, which at the current exchange rate comes to about $44,000 USD (a great deal considering the cars they sell here for that price don't even come close to touching the GTS in terms of performance). I read that the HSV GTS-R was recently brought to the United Kingdom at an MSRP of $50000 GBP - that's about $75000 dollars!?! The question I wanted to ask is, where does this extra $30000 USD come from as the car goes from Australia to England??? There are companies in California that import Nissan Skylines from Japan. After modifying the car to pass EPA standards (several thousand dollars), converting to right-hand drive (several thousand more) and paying for the shipping costs (yet another several thousand), gas-guzzler and luxury taxes and import tariffs (cars are dutiable at 2.5% of worth, PLUS 4% for every thousand dollars over $400; trucks are assessed a duty of 25%!!), you end up paying about $90000 USD for a car that costs the equivalent of $40,000 USD overseas. But that's because these companies have to use independent commercial importers, which tack on their own egregious service charges. Remember, this is for a car that is imported, not an import car that is registered for sale. I am also looking to import (of my accord) a Caprice SS or Lumina SS from Saudi Arabia, to the US. If anyone knows specifically how much this would cost, plesae let me know. Obviously I would not be worried about emissions or drive conversion, only the taxes involved. I am trying to get more information from the customs and treasury department in the meantime. Thanks.
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#63
01-24-2002, 07:48 AM
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I am in Australia at the moment guys, and had a look round the HSV dealers a few days ago!
I can see why we don't get it, but I fail to see why the US doesn't get the GTS and other Super Saloons! I see they have brought out a new version, which now gets 19" wheels, as well as trim changes!!! Here are some pics of the new Monaro if they will leech...   And the Clubsport Commodore...  
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#64
02-24-2002, 10:11 AM
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You don't get OUR:silly2: Holdens because the fuel tanks is placed behind the axle and a few other things.
But it doesn't go for the ute as it placed in front of the rear axle and might end up in America by the end of the year:smoker2:
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#65
07-24-2002, 12:36 AM
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i think i've already posted my response to this, but i'm not sure, so i'll go again...
HSV anyday, its just a better all-round car
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#66
07-24-2002, 11:06 PM
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In Britain, cars are crazy-expensive. If you own a car, you are lucky. Plus, the Value Added Tax is 18% on any new car. Ouch
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#67
08-27-2002, 09:12 AM
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It's GTS. There's no 'R'.
You'll be getting the Monaro as a Pontiac GTO in 2004. Not the HSV model though.
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#69
08-28-2002, 04:56 AM
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Thats right, one of the reasons the Monaro was delayed a little was they had to relocate the gas tank in frount of the axle. Something they would only goto the trouble of doing if they planned to sell the car in the US.
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#70
08-28-2002, 05:50 AM
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 Thunda- The UK-spec GTS-R is different from the Aussie GTS isn't it????? I'm talking about the Supercharger that exists in one of the UK models, which I am sure is the GTS-R...... Why the hell can't we have some of them, it's not fair......  It makes all other HSV's suck 
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#73
08-29-2002, 11:31 PM
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How is moving the fuel tank in front of the rear axle an improvement? It's just one of silly American design rules. Same with 17' wheels. I can't see why they have a problem with those.
I know the fuel tank is to be moved in case of rear impact, but I've never seen a car blow up from being hit in the rear. If it isn't broken, why fix it? The U.S is definately getting it. It's already been anounced. Along with the ute to be sold as a Chevy Al Camino.
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#74
08-30-2002, 12:47 AM
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But there has been tons of cars blow up in the States, cause engineers put the fuel tanks in stupid places 
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#75
08-30-2002, 01:35 AM
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Definately getting the Monaro. Not sure about the Commodore. If they don't blow up here, why would they do it in the states?
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