the new Porsche 911 Carrera GT

[gang$tarr]

Originally posted by flylwsi

on a side note, i coulda sworn that gangstarr doesnt like old cars???

heh, i don't... but an F40 deserves respect. and i never said that i'd use it as a daily driver. But a Porsche supercar is going to be unreliable also. It's not gunna be as unreliable but it will be..... it's not like a 911 that you can drive everyday

I'm not really sure which one i'd choose if i could pick F40 vs. GT
but an F40 is way more valuable.... i'd probably end up getting and F40, cause well, it's an F40 god damn it!! It's a huge part of Ferrari history. I'd only use it as a show car though. I'd only drive it on nice days. It's not like i'd drive a GT everyday, but the F40 is just too famous, if i had the chance to get one i would.
It's probably one of the only old cars i'd like... then again it's not that old (1991)
supercars don't age as quickly though, Diablos are old, but they still look new, and sound good

[flylwsi]

i get what your sayin..
but basically, if you want to drive an f40, you gotta restore everything in it just to get some drivability back from the age and no driving...
and i think a supercar now, especially from porsche, is much more driveable than a supercar from ferrari would be...
just lookin at it
it looks more roadgoing than the racetrack designs of the F cars... know what i mean? it looks like it would take a beating and hold together... a ferrari doesnt have that look to me...

[gang$tarr]

Originally posted by flylwsi

and i think a supercar now, especially from porsche, is much more driveable than a supercar from ferrari would be...

yeah, but do you really want a supercar, which is meant to be a race car to drive like a Lexus? no! you want to hold on for dear life! you don't want it to be easy... well i'm kinda j/k

but i never said that a porsche wouldn't be as driveable..... I know that the F40 would take alot more skill to drive than any new car, it doesn't have much of any electronic assists. I think the new Ferraris like a 550 are probably just as driveable as the porsches though

[Z06Lover]

porsche's are like ferraris, only desgined by engineers who went to college!! j/k

but, everyone knows that ferrari engines are great....when they are running...which aint often!!

i love the F40, but you better believe if i own a 350k car...i'm gonna want to drive it everyday!! I have another car I could drive other then my S2K every day....but i drive the S2k every day....rain or shine. I could care less about how valuable the car is...i'm gonna drive the shit out of it!! Personally, i don't think Porsche will ever make the GT if they can't make it reliable. Now if it doesn't have a roof...that could kill the whole daily driver thing up here in oregon!!

[gang$tarr]

Originally posted by Z06Lover
Now if it doesn't have a roof...that could kill the whole daily driver thing up here in oregon!!

killed



yeah but if you have a 350k and drive it in every condition, the value of the car is gunna go wwaaaaaayyyyy down

[Z06Lover]

Originally posted by gang$tarr


killed



yeah but if you have a 350k and drive it in every condition, the value of the car is gunna go wwaaaaaayyyyy down

if i got 350k to spend on a car...resale value won't be the first thing on my mind....how to get all the b$tches off my jock will be my biggest worry...hehe j/k

[flylwsi]

i guess that was kinda my point there...
if you have that money and you want to drive it, the money is probably of no concern...
what i meant by a driveable supercar was simply that the porsche, like its 911 brethren, is much more suited to driving, vs the careful for the potholes and uneven ground super low styling of an f40's aero package...
i wasnt referring to the whoa factor...
no doubt in my mind that a 550hp car, any car, would kick my ass, especially a porsche....

[gang$tarr]

oh fo sho..... i think a 911 is way more driveable than like a modena... then again they're not really in the same price range

911 turbo vs. modena
i think i'd drive the Ferrari just as much as the porsche... but an F40 is such a prized collectors car, i wouldn't wanna mess anything up..

same with like a Ferrari 550... i would drive it all the time, rain or shine, way more than an F40

[Porsche]

I was pondering this question before also. If I had an F40 would I only show it or drive it? My answer; get two. sounds unreasonable but, if you have 350K to spend on a car, how about buy the 19 million dollar house instead of the 20 Million dollar one and get two F40's. Then one would sit in your living room and the other you could take to a corner store or across the country for all I care. It's expensive, but supercars are so might as well get two, or three

[gang$tarr]

well i'd just do both.... i just wouldn't drive it in any bad conditions and I'd be careful

there aren't any new cars that i'd treat like the F40.... the F40 is just like a prize car, you have to watch out for it, cause it's not like you can just buy another new one

you guys made too hard a comparison.... compare the GT to another new car... like a Ferrari 360 spyder or somethin

those are both similar and easier to compare.... comparing a historical, prize car... too a brand new Porsche (that isn't even out yet) is just too weird

either compare 2 older prize cars... or 2 new cars that are comparable

[Seb928S@af]

The 959 is an supercar and look its driveable everyday plus that car has so much technology in it, cars these days don't even have that much and it was made in 86. You can still take it out and drive the car hard day to day. It's a Porsche built to drive hard and last a longer time then a fiat.

[flylwsi]

true true


on the modena vs the turbo thing...
the turbo is still quicker by tenths all around, and has more hp. and better handling, and a smaller price tag. i would still buy a porsche over anything that is in a ferrari showroom... mainly b/c you can get a turbo on a porsche, and 50-100 hp is only a turbo swap away... hmm...
this is similar to gettin a golf gti w/ the 1.8t or the vr6.
you cant lose either way, but there are differences...

[gang$tarr]

Ferrari is just so close to my heart
that i'd take a Modena over a 911 Turbo..... it would be a REALLY hard choice though

[Z06Lover]

Originally posted by flylwsi
true true


on the modena vs the turbo thing...
the turbo is still quicker by tenths all around, and has more hp. and better handling, and a smaller price tag. i would still buy a porsche over anything that is in a ferrari showroom... mainly b/c you can get a turbo on a porsche, and 50-100 hp is only a turbo swap away... hmm...
this is similar to gettin a golf gti w/ the 1.8t or the vr6.
you cant lose either way, but there are differences...

i was with you till this post. The reason I would choose a modena over the 996 TT is because it isn't turbo charged. Nature Aspriation is always better if you can get the power from your engine. It gives you better throttle respone, doesn't upset the balance of the car, and is overall a faster engine for the same HP. Turbo charging is for faking displacement..nothing else. Better handling?? The modena goes faster through the slalom and is faster on most courses when driven by equally competant drivers. Even tracks like thunderhill, where long straight stretches would usually favor higher HP motors, Steve millen was about 2 secs faster with the modena. It is a mid-engine, N/A, serious sports car. Now if I was worried about repair bills....996 TT all the way, but if all i wanted was a perfectly balanced race car....360 Modena all the way.

[crayzayjay]

It's gotten harder to compare these 2 cars (996 Turbo & 360 Modena) because they are of very different natures. The Porsche is faster around a track than the 360 (from evey single track test i've read).
The 996 that is more directly comparable to the Modena is the GT3, a much wilder car than the Turbo, a true race car, and not a GT, which is what the Turbo and GT2 have become. Track tests have also shown that Porsche's 911GT3 outperforms the 360 Modena. Harder to get the time from the car, but in a true racer's hands it will beat the 360.

at the end of the day, i'd settle for any of the above, who wouldn't!!!!!!!