5.0 Vs. 3000gt

[SVTcobra306]

Originally Posted by eillob

I agree, I out ran one in an 86 Iroc with a 305 a few years ago, wasn't pretty.

OUCH!!!


BTW don't knock the mighty 2.3! (if it's the mighty Ford 2.3)

[Thepeug]

Oops. I thought redhorsev6 was talking about the CRX. Sorry about that.

[SVTcobra306]

on second look, maybe he was. I just see 2.3 and there's only one real engine that ever had that displacement.....

[91_4ourbanger]

theres been 2 ford engines with 2.3, actually theres been a few of them. mine is from 91 and has the dual plug head. if you want to bash it then that is fine, i bash it everytime i drive my car. i literally cant even bark my tires if i launch as hard as i can. the only 2.3 that is noteworthy is the 2.3 turbo from old turbocoupes and svos.

[SVTcobra306]

I had a carbureted one in an '83 ranger 4x4 with a four-speed manual, and that motor took a serious beating! plus they love to use it in midget cars. I wanna say it got its start in a pinto....

[eillob]

Originally Posted by thunderbird muscle

where did this just go?

I don't know but Im glad Im not the only one lost?

[boosted331]

Originally Posted by badaZZ-five-o

dude it dont matter the 3000 GT would get smoked by my uncles geo prism!

I bet it would get smoked by your stock 5.0 with a dominator too, right?

[96scort]

muscle over rice agian i love it

[zx2srdotnet]

Originally Posted by 96scort

muscle over rice agian i love it

your comparing the top of the line mustang to the low range 3000GT

if it was a Stock VR4 spyder or 3000GT (same car just a different body) the 5.0 would lose by a good bit - mid 14's vs high 13's

[eillob]

Well a top of the line mustang with a 5.0 would be a Cobra. And I have yet seen a VR-4 stock run 13 anything. Mid to low 14's maybe but they ain't running 13's.

[Cro]

Originally Posted by Cobra01TT

Just for the guy who said they run low 15's, THERE IS NO WAY IN HELL. I ran a best of 14.781, at around 6000Ft., and I would blow the doors off one.

Aren't cobras supposed to be high 12 sec cars??

Anyway the vr4 weighs a little less than 3800 lbs while the baseline weighs less than 3300lbs.

[FordJunky]

03 cobras are 12 second cars, 99-01 were 13 second cars.

[zx2srdotnet]

Originally Posted by eillob

Well a top of the line mustang with a 5.0 would be a Cobra. And I have yet seen a VR-4 stock run 13 anything. Mid to low 14's maybe but they ain't running 13's.

A good driver can run high 13's in a vr-4 all day long with even a 13.5-6 pull or 3


so you basicly said that if you add 300lbs to a mach1 it wont see 13s?
Mach1 : VR-4
320HP@5800 : 320HP@6000
320TQ@4200 : 315TQ@2500 rpm
3469lbs : 3760lbs
13.2 1/4 : 13.5 1/4

so you basicly said that if you add 300lbs to a mach1 it wont see 13s?

[eillob]

Originally Posted by zx2srdotnet

A good driver can run high 13's in a vr-4 all day long with even a 13.5-6 pull or 3


so you basicly said that if you add 300lbs to a mach1 it wont see 13s?
Mach1 : VR-4
320HP@5800 : 320HP@6000
320TQ@4200 : 315TQ@2500 rpm
3469lbs : 3760lbs
13.2 1/4 : 13.5 1/4

so you basicly said that if you add 300lbs to a mach1 it wont see 13s?

First You started comparing the 5.0 to the VR-4, now your on the Mach 1. Make up your mind.

so you basicly said that if you add 300lbs to a mach1 it wont see 13s?

I have no idea where the hell that came from. I know you have better sense then to try to say that because their stats are similar their the same car. Well maybe you don't, let me enlighted you.

Your stats look pretty accurate, you just forgot one of the most important differences between these two.

Mach 1
baseprice $28,000

VR-4
baseprice $44,000

Now what idiot would go out and spend an extra $14,000 dollars for a heavier VR-4 when you can have a faster lighter Mach 1 for less money.
I mean besides you, why would anyone do that. And just for the record you don't need a Mach 1 to beat a VR-4. You can take a stock 5.0 put heads on it and all of the other typical bolt ons and walk all over that VR-4 for a HELL of a lot less money if you wanna nit pick. So you can keep your overweight rice rocket. I'll take my stang any day.

[zx2srdotnet]

"First You started comparing the 5.0 to the VR-4, now
your on the Mach 1. Make up your mind"
because you said a VR-4 cant run 13's so i comparied it to a Mustang with more similar specs then a 5.0

"Your stats look pretty accurate, you just forgot one of the most important differences between these two.

Mach 1
baseprice $28,000

VR-4
baseprice $44,000"

and in the price difference you also get AWD, power hard-top convertable, 6speed tranny, and 4-wheel stearing, tell me what mustang has all four of those options?

also that years the VR-4 ran the Cobra wasnt making as much power so the comparison wasnt really there till 1999

"Now what idiot would go out and spend an extra $14,000 dollars for a heavier VR-4 when you can have a faster lighter Mach 1 for less money"

the VR-4 was also ment to beable to have great road maners also not just 1/4 performance
mach1: .85g
vr-4: .90g


"take a stock 5.0 put heads on it and all of the other typical bolt ons and walk all over that VR-4 for a HELL of a lot less money if you wanna nit pick"

well now you comparing a car in NON stock form to a stock car, thats just stupid, with a boost controller and exaust you can have a VR-4 running high 12's, and would hand the stang its ass in the corners.

and if you wanna go the moded vs unmoded rout, i can get a used Escort ZX2, get it turbo'd and build and running steady low 12's for 13k total and both out handle and out run a 03 cobra for almost 1/3 the price, which makes buying the cobra look "stupid"


"overweight rice rocket. I'll take my stang any day."

a over prived rice rocket is a Civic Si, SVT Focus or a Sentra SE-R specV, Not to many people who know what they are talking about call the Supra, Nissan Skyline R32 GT-R, and 300zx,(all the other imports the VR-4 is comparable to)as 'rice'