Time Slips

[flylwsi]

thanks... and yeah, that was directed at you... i'm jealous...

[whtteg]

Best time for me so far is a 14.40 @ 97.40 with a 2.555 60'. I have ran a few 14.4x times at 98.xx speed with 2.5xx 60' times. I need some sticky tires

[2000LS1Z28]

I don't feel so bad about my 60' time now I've run an identical 60' time on street tires at both LACR and Speedway. Just need to learn to heat up the DR's better.

[2000LS1Z28]

you can tune your fuel pressure and timing to cope with the elevation. check it out.

You can't tune a N/A car for altitude, that's why they have an altitude correction formula on the NHRA website. I can post it if you want me to. The air is thinner at higher elevation. A N/A car doesn't have a waste gate like a turbo to compensate for altitude. all your doing by increasing the fuel pressure/timing is making more power, which may make you believe that you have compensated for the higher elevation. I had the same argument on another board (Which incidentally is why I left, because the members refused to believe there is a difference between Los Angeles County Raceway and E-Town).

[silverdraggin]

once again jekyl I thank you. Although I've not looked at the page yet, your very helpful for those of us who wish to race on the track. as for time improvements:::

WARNING: SLOW CAR TIMES AHEAD!!!

all runs are done in a bone stock accord..this reads..no mods as of yet..
when I first started at the 1/8 mile track sometime in August, I ran an 11.8xx

October with emptying the trunk and going to a better fuel station it was down to 11.3xx

Currently I run in 11.0xx to 11.1xx

Best time: 10.9xx

So flylwsi you are doing better than me keep up the good work

END SLOW CAR WARNING proceed to normal speed.

Why am I posting this?? Unsure just to visit..

[JekylandHyde]

Originally Posted by silverdraggin

once again jekyl I thank you.

Once again, no problem.

Originally Posted by silverdraggin

all runs are done in a bone stock accord..this reads..no mods as of yet.. Best time: 10.9xx

That seems right on target for a bone stock accord.
What year? ... what's your 60' (that is arguably the most important number in drag racing).

[1QUICK2]

Jeckleandhyde- congrats on the new Q/M times. very impressive. When I first started my proj. I used your car/HP to set my goals for Q/M times

[Polygon]

Originally Posted by 2000LS1Z28

You can't tune a N/A car for altitude, that's why they have an altitude correction formula on the NHRA website. I can post it if you want me to. The air is thinner at higher elevation. A N/A car doesn't have a waste gate like a turbo to compensate for altitude. all your doing by increasing the fuel pressure/timing is making more power, which may make you believe that you have compensated for the higher elevation. I had the same argument on another board (Which incidentally is why I left, because the members refused to believe there is a difference between Los Angeles County Raceway and E-Town).

Exactly, which is why you will see a Top Fuel dragster pull mid 4s in LA and mid 5s in Denver.

[JekylandHyde]

Originally Posted by Polygon

Exactly, which is why you will see a Top Fuel dragster pull mid 4s in LA and mid 5s in Denver.

Actually he stated you can tune an "N/A car for altitude" ... Top Fuelers are far from NA ... it just goes to prove that altitude (thinner air) affects all of us.


"A N/A car doesn't have a waste gate like a turbo to compensate for altitude."

Please explain how you get a wastegate to compensate for altitude.

[Polygon]

Originally Posted by JekylandHyde

Actually he stated you can tune an "N/A car for altitude" ... Top Fuelers are far from NA ... it just goes to prove that altitude (thinner air) affects all of us.

No, he said you can’t tune an N/A car for elevation. My point was more or less to state that you can tune a car to compensate for elevation but no matter what you will always run better times at lower elevations than you will at higher elevations whether you're running forced induction or N/A.

Originally Posted by 2000LS1Z28

You can't tune a N/A car for altitude, that's why they have an altitude correction formula on the NHRA website. I can post it if you want me to. The air is thinner at higher elevation. A N/A car doesn't have a waste gate like a turbo to compensate for altitude. all your doing by increasing the fuel pressure/timing is making more power, which may make you believe that you have compensated for the higher elevation. I had the same argument on another board (Which incidentally is why I left, because the members refused to believe there is a difference between Los Angeles County Raceway and E-Town).

[JekylandHyde]

Originally Posted by Polygon

No, he said you can’t tune an N/A car for elevation. My point was more or less to state that you can tune a car to compensate for elevation but no matter what you will always run better times at lower elevations than you will at higher elevations whether you're running forced induction or N/A.

Polygon, I agree with this post.

Your last post you started out with "exactly" which made it sound like you were agreeing with 2000LS1Z28.

[Polygon]

Originally Posted by JekylandHyde

Polygon, I agree with this post.

Your last post you started out with "exactly" which made it sound like you were agreeing with 2000LS1Z28.

I see your point; I should have been more concise.

[silverdraggin]

'94 Accord EX Jekyl. My '60 foot hmm lemme look..
*pulls random time slip from pocket...*
Remember these are 1/8 mile times...

R/T=.285
60' =2.594
330=7.284
MPH=48.50
1/8 =11.117
MPH=63.56

[JekylandHyde]

Originally Posted by silverdraggin

Remember these are 1/8 mile times...

If we are looking at 60's it doesn't matter if it is 1/8, 1/4 or 10 miles
*smile*


Seriously though ...

Originally Posted by silverdraggin

60' =2.594

This is going to be your biggest arear for improvement.
Do you know for sure if the 2.5 is result of tire spin or lack of power?
If it is tire spin, then you can improve either your launching technique or buy better (grippier) tires.
If it is a lack of power, then ...well, you already know your car is stock.

Regardless of the length of the race, try geting your 60's down ... 2.0-2.2 range with street tires. That will make a huge difference.

Good luck.

[silverdraggin]

I have ZERO wheel spin at the track LOL because of lack of power. What is your suggestion on what I can do to improve 60? I understand like mods, but which specifically??