S7 vs Mosler?

[jcsaleen]

The S7 also has an lcd as well and A/C not sure about the duaer I think so though.

[GTStang]

If you want one example of the Mosler Photon deficies as a street car how about the Hewland straight-cut manual 6-speed that howls so loud that you can't hear the radio over it for one.

[jcsaleen]

The truth is No one buys a cars like that for comfort they buy them probly in this order.

Performance
Looks
comfort

[Stratoraptor]

Originally Posted by GTStang

If you want one example of the Mosler Photon deficies as a street car how about the Hewland straight-cut manual 6-speed that howls so loud that you can't hear the radio over it for one.

for those that can't stand the "Howlin' Hewland" sequential, They could opt for the Porsche G50 standard manual with helical gears as used in chassis #008. It's much quieter for those that feel the need for it.

[drunken monkey]

wow, that was quick 3 day ban.....

anyway.
yes, if you want the dvd in the dauer, you kinda need to have a screen of some sort.
it would be kinda pointless otherwise.


moving on swiftly.......
and who cares about straight cut gears drowning the radio,
they never play anything good anyway.
the elise GT1 (see below ) has straight cut gears..... but then it doesn't have a radio...... and isn't exactly a 'commercial' road car.... dammit.

[jcsaleen]

S7 is the better road car end of story but hey this thread is about what is the better OVERALL car. Id have to go with saleen ~ performance style A hell of a higher topend.

[Stratoraptor]

Well, top speeds of 160+mph for a road car holds little bearing on practically every stretch of road across the globe be it on the street or on the race track. The MT900S Photon pushes what it means to be a racecar for the road to the very limits, thusly it is more of a race car than the S7 is and performs much better in braking, handling, and acceleration.

To choose which one is a better overall car to have, it depends on the person. How often are you going to your local track? How much performance do you want out of your car? Are you one that believes looks makes all the difference? Do you care about how streetable one car is over the other when the difference is the slightest of margins?

It all depends on the person...

[crayzayjay]

Originally Posted by drunken monkey

wow, that was quick 3 day ban.....

A little mis-communication in the mod team. He's back on holiday.

[drunken monkey]

....sorry.
wasn't trying to question you guys or anything.
just an observation.

[kfoote]

Originally Posted by Layla's Keeper

You're kidding right? The Mosler MT900 with Joao Barbosa at the wheel completely gutted the competition in the GTS class in the Grand-Am series, including winning its class at the 24hours of Daytona. Moslers also dominate in the British GT championship, beating the tar out of TVR Tuscans, Chrysler Vipers, Morgan Aero 8 coupes, and Lister Storms.

The Saleen's current biggest success is I believe a few class wins in the FIA GT. The car is almost the spectacular failure in the ALMS that the Lamborghini Murciealage R-GT was, and never matched the success of the Mosler MT900 WHICH IT COMPETED WITH in the Grand-Am.

Face it, the Mosler has the better competition record.

The Mosler has done well in Europe in the shorter GT races, and it did win the GTS class at the 24 hours of Daytona in 2003...54 laps behind the GT winning car, even though it's fastest lap time was faster. That means that it lost nearly 2 hours to the (slower on track) GT car somewhere, though I do not remember the exact details of it. I believe they also won their class at the 24 hours of Bathurst a couple of years ago, but generally their mechanical reliability over time has generally not been nearly as good as the Saleen S7R.

[Stratoraptor]

Regardless of mehanical reliability, the point remains the same: The MT900R is a success on the track more so than the S7-R.

Regarding what happened at Daytona 2003, the winning GTS Mosler had a 20 second penalty stop for having too many crew members over the pit wall. It also suffered a gearbox problem in the 10th hour and at the end of the 21st hour it pitted to assess a cooling problem. From their it passed the Corvette to win in GTS with a the #30 MT900R finishing 3rd in class. The #7 S7-R however was in the pits for almost a half hour trying to repair a chassis problem finishing 41 laps behind the GTS winner and 100 laps behind the overall winner.

Part of the beauty of the MT900R is that if something breaks, depending on what it is it can be repaired easily and -- more impartantly -- quickly.