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Old 12-17-2001, 05:11 PM
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Thanks for the info on the one year deal. As for the kit car, I was thinking more like taking out the engine, exhaust, turbos, doors, wheels, and perhaps seats. Now I don't think it would be to hard to find some one who has worked on 300Zs or perhaps Supra TTs (Just for the experiance with TT cars and such) to put it back togather. I could put the seats, wheels, and turbo's back in. Sure it would cost a good amount in labor but I know its not going to cost the 15-20k you would have to pay MotoRex to convert a skyline
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Funny to sit here and read though the posts to the Automotive forums. Funny to read about people talking and talking about trying to bring cars here - bringing them illegally and all that.

Our prices aren't cheap , but the process and what it takes to make the cars legal is not a cheap process. The Skylines are not for the people on welfare. Most of the people that complain the most are probably 16 years old and couldnt even get financing on a Kia....

Before we legalized the Skyline - the car was not in the US legally . Not at any price legally. We had lots of people tell us it COULDN'T BE DONE. Guess what - it could - it just took time and money.

How many other people had the "balls" to try it ? Seriously before us it was not even possible , now we got whiners like the people on this forum complaining about how much we charge.


1) Lets see how good you guys are at research. These are easy questions - just to see what people can find out . You can find the answer . It does exist on the internet.

How many other vehicles that were not orginally certified for the US can be imported to the US ?

What is the DOT website ?

What is the EPA website ?

What are the California requirements for direct import vehicles?

What is FTP testing ?

How many miles is the drive cycle ?

What are the requirements of becoming a Registered Importer ?

What is an ICI ?

What is the Skylines VCP number ?


Lots of people talk the talk - lets see some people do some research and walk the walk...

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Old 01-16-2002, 11:03 PM
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Ahh drat! I was halfway through your questions Sean and my browser crashed. I will post agian with the answers but first let me say this.
In no way am I trying to put down what you or the company MotoRex is doing. In fact I think it is good that some one, how did you put it... "had the balls" to do it. If it wern't for you guys there wouldn't be any completely street legal Skylines here in the US.
Now I will tell you up front that I do not have the money to do business with you and buy the car of my dreams. Knowing this,(the fact that it is out of my reach for the time being) it is only natural for the mind to mull over other options, no matter how far fetched they are. The fact that you are working them through in your head does not mean that you are intending on leaping up from your chair at this very instant and taking action upon them. I am sure that you have seen somthing that you wanted but couldn't have for whatever reason and emediatly came up with atleast three outlandish ways that "Perhaps this would work!!". I am also reasonably sure that you did not act on your outlandish ideas.
As far as why your prices are what they are, I fully understand what is envolved in arriving at a price to sell an item at. I am also fully aware of the cost envolved in importing a Skyline and making it street legal. On top of all those things Motorex has to make a profit off all of this, after all, thats why you all are doing it in the first place is it not? I don't have a problem with this, its capitalism, its how our economy works!
Now as far seeming need to stereotype anyone who is trying to find another way to bring a GTR into the "16 years old and couldnt even get financing on a Kia" group. I am not going to dignify this with a reply, there was no need for that.
I'm sorry if I sound a bit sarcastic or antagonistic, but I was a bit peeved by your sudden defensivenes and haste to pidgeon-hole any one who cannot afford to pay $80,000+ dollars to buy a new car.
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Ok, now to the research... It seems like some one doesn't want me to reply to ya Sean, first my browser crashed halfway through, then I get a page cannot be displayed when I hit "Submit Reply" so I was forced to hit back and lost everything I had typed

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How many other vehicles that were not orginally certified for the US can be imported to the US ?
I'm not sure but that is trivial information, I'll move on to the important stuff

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What is the DOT website ?
http://www.dot.gov/


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What is the EPA website ?
http://www.epa.gov/


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What are the California requirements for direct import vehicles?
1. Health and Safety Code Section 44202 requires all used direct import
vehicles, not previously registered in California prior to 5.31.1988, to
submit a Certificate of Conformance before such vehicle can be
registered in Californis. H&S Code Section 44200 defines as a used
direct import as a 1975 or later model motor vehicle, not originally
intended for sale in the United States, which is at least two years old
2. Certificate of Conformance issued by a laboratory authorized by the
california Air Resource Board (ARB). For further information call the
ARB at 1 800 242 4450
3. Copy of the documentation showing modification cost
Additional fees will be due for license fees based on the modification
costs

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What is FTP testing ?
FTP stands for Federal Test Procedure. This is refering to driving and Air-Conditioner Usage for Passenger Cars, Light-Duty Trucks, and Medium-Duty Vehicles Under 8,501 Pounds Gross Vehicle Weight Rating and their emissions. For example it was discussed on July 24, 1997 by the State of California Air Resources Board. Members present were:
Hons. John D. Dunlap, III, Chairman, Joseph C. Calhoun, P.E., Lynne T. Edgerton, Esq., William F. Friedman, M.D., M. Patricia Hilligoss, Barbara Riordan, Ron Roberts, and James W. Silva. (Just thought I mention them, you may know a few of them.


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How many miles is the drive cycle ?
A drive cycle test is a function of the vehicle on board computer that includes the testing of the monitored systems that requires a start up -- from a cold engine to a warm engine -- and the vehicle being driven. I was unable to find a standerdised drive cycle test and from what I've read I'm lead to beleave that there is no set distance, only a group of conditions such as Speed, RPM, and the like. I may be wrong on this one Sean, please correct me if I am.


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What are the requirements of becoming a Registered Importer ?
My computer has reciently crashed and I do not have Adobe Acrobat installed yet so I cannot read this page. However, I am sure it will list all of the requirements for becoming a RI. If it does not they could be found by calling the DOT at (202) 366-6018.
http://www.nhtsa.dot.gov/cars/rules/.../Ripkg0011.pdf

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What is an ICI ?
You've got me stumped on this one, the only thing I could come up with was Imperial Chemical Industries and I know thats not right

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What is the Skylines VCP number ?
VCP numbers are eligibility numbers are assigned to vehicles that are decided to be eligible under 49 U.S.C. § 30141(a)(1)(B), based on a petition from a manufacturer or registered importer which establishes that the vehicle has safety features that comply with, or are capable of being altered to comply with, all applicable Federal motor vehicle safety standards. The Nissan Skyline GT-R and GT-S's VCP number is 17.

If I'm wrong on any of these things please do correct me Sean. Now lets just hope nothing goes wrong with my post this time
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Old 01-17-2002, 02:49 PM
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Ok, now to the research... It seems like some one doesn't want me to reply to ya Sean, first my browser crashed halfway through, then I get a page cannot be displayed when I hit "Submit Reply" so I was forced to hit back and lost everything I had typed


VCP numbers are eligibility numbers are assigned to vehicles that are decided to be eligible under 49 U.S.C. § 30141(a)(1)(B), based on a petition from a manufacturer or registered importer which establishes that the vehicle has safety features that comply with, or are capable of being altered to comply with, all applicable Federal motor vehicle safety standards. The Nissan Skyline GT-R and GT-S's VCP number is 17.

If I'm wrong on any of these things please do correct me Sean. Now lets just hope nothing goes wrong with my post this time


Good to see that you can find the information.... its out there.... it exists. Now you have to take all the information and put it together into some useable knowledge.

Like you said the Skyline is VCP -17 . Which means its the 17th petition to go though under the VCP regulations for the DOT . Most of the cars are G-Wagons , couple trailers , Citroen , some random stuff.

The drive cycle is found at 40CFR Part 86.537-90 .... Tell me how many miles...

ICI - give you a clue it stands for Independent Commercial Importer.

FTP - is most used within the EPA stuff to talk about the procedures for certifying cars.
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Oh boy!! More CFR to much through Actualy this is kind of fun, I've learned more about import regulations and complience packages then I have in days of looking! Guess I just wasn't lookin in the right places.
Hmm, all I can find is Subpaft F dealing with Motorcycles. But the distance on them is 7.5 miles (6.8 for class I, whatever that is ) on both the cold start test and hot start test.
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Heh. The first guy sound BS. There are 0 legally running Evos in the US. There some, but those are not street legal. You cant drive them like u can do it with the GT-Rs from Motorex. Yeah, they are expensive but GT-Rs are not Civics. They re in the M5(3)'s pricerange or more. So if u cant afford those cars then forget about the GT-R. I doubt Nissan would have been sold the GT-R for less then $45k if it would have marketed over here.

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I'm talking about owning a stock GTR V Spec II... If you boost, you still don't have to go up in octane in US. The gas here is alot better than most countries.
Actually nope. US has the dirtiest fuel. It has ver high Sulphur fuel rate, while Japan has the lowest in the world then Europe. EU wants to reach Japan's level around '04.
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thank god u guys brought the skylines over here.. its just to bad that i cant afford one... looks like somday i may be livin in japan jus for my car
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Hey I can't afford one myself either....I just drive everyone elses.... Well I do drive our drag car...

But realistically - the pricing is on the level with a used NSX which the Skyline competes with well.


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o dont get me wrong... the prices are just fine.... one of my favorite cars.... just in other countrys u can get much cheaper if u just live there...
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u said whats worth the price right there in your signature.. 10.71@137 mph!...
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o dont get me wrong... the prices are just fine.... one of my favorite cars.... just in other countrys u can get much cheaper if u just live there...

Right - a Viper or a Corvette are expensive in other countries and dont sell well..... but here they are USA's supercars..


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After looking through various websites, I found that MotoRex's pricing is not too far from what folks in the UK pay for theirs...
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are u sure about that? dont think thats quite true
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